Bill Clinton couldn't be prouder of Chelsea today

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Bill Clinton ?@billclinton 2m
Couldn't be prouder of @ChelseaClinton today. Congrats on your doctorate. pic.twitter.com/M4PiBFqUej





Daniel W. Drezner ?@dandrezner 17m
Wait, @ChelseaClinton now has a Ph.D. in international relations?! http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/chelsea-clinton-receive-doctorate-oxford-23662285 …

[bigtree]

1. kick

Oxford City Guide @OxfordCityGuide
Just another set of tourists in Oxford...almost. Bill and Hillary Clinton in The Bod - 10 May 2014

[kelliekat44]

116. Wonder what nasty thing Rush will have to say about this? Remember how he trashed Chelsea's looks

as a child. How much more evil can a person be?

[lame54]

2. she only got it to make Hillary look presidential

[bigtree]

5. well

. . . it is Mother's Day.



Hillary leaves the famous Randolph Hotel (Image courtesy of Jane Cahill)

[moriah]

26. 1/10, you can pull a better troll than that. n/t

[Joe Bacon]

33. Bull!

Chelsea did that because she COULD. Period.

BTW--I'm just waiting for Hillary to take over and put the clowns in their right place!

[wyldwolf]

37. you forgot the 'sarcasm' notice...

[lame54]

41. it was so obvious - didn't think was necessary...

I guess it's never so obvious

[wyldwolf]

42. It's never obvious, lol.

[baldguy]

59. Especially with the Democrat-haters who habitually post on DU

And are allowed to.

[moriah]

82. Given some of the discussion downthread, sadly not obvious. I had hopes, though...

And I hope you didn't take my post as calling *you* a troll.

[fujiyama]

106. It's kind of sad when even on a site like this

it's not obvious that it's not sarcasm. I caught it as sarcasm immediately, but considering the outlandish rhetoric recently...it sounds straight out of the mouth of a clown on Fox and Friends...

[malaise]

3. Very cool n/t

[bigtree]

8. yep, very cool

Bill leaves the Randolph Hotel

tweeted by, Rosie Thomas ?@RosieMaryT 21h
#firstfirsthusband pic.twitter.com/MfFZhp73pz

[Le Taz Hot]

4. Congratulations to Chelsea Clinton

for a major accomplishment. I'm curious to see what she chooses to do with her new doctorate.

[bigtree]

7. she does a lot of work with the Clinton Foundation

Chelsea Clinton ?@ChelseaClinton
Thank you for the good graduation wishes!
10:36 AM - 10 May 2014

[Damansarajaya]

6. It's better than being a hedge fund manager, heh. nt

[bigtree]

10. she's following in the family footsteps

Chelsea Clinton was spotted alongside her mother this afternoon (Image courtesy of Jane Cahill)

[L0oniX]

9. They're such a nice wholesome filthy rich family. What's not to like?

I don't know about you all but I can't wait for Chelsea to be our POTUS.

[Le Taz Hot]

11. I'm no fan of Bill and Hillary Clinton

but certainly we can recognize a job well done when it presents itself, regardless of the recipient, his/her wealth, or lack thereof.

[L0oniX]

14. I can think of a homeless girl in NYC who made it to college on a scholarship.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Murray

...and that IS something worth praise.

[Le Taz Hot]

16. Well, she didn't have an OP

and I would have certainly praised her equally had there been one. I'm sure others would do the same. There really is room for praise for both.

[aquart]

99. You mean like Bill Clinton did?

Let me guess, still no praise?

[bigtree]

12. glad you approve

. . . bookmarking

[L0oniX]

13. No fighting in the war room!

[mopinko]

18. this doesnt say anything about the clintons.

says a lot of about you.

[L0oniX]

20. I'm so happy you are interested in me.

Yea that's right. I don't like rich people and the fawning over them. There are poor people who studied their way into a scholarship that are worthy of praise. Your response does indeed say much about you!

[moriah]

35. Guess you don't like our current President much either, and will devalue his daughters' ....

... future academic achievements the same way. After all, the Obamas are quite wealthy and have become more so thanks to the Presidency.

[L0oniX]

65. It's always fun to assume ain't it.

[moriah]

68. Well, you said you didn't like wealthy people... or is it only certain wealthy people?

Chelsea was and is a very bright individual. I was of an age with her (she's a few days younger than I am) and grew up in the same town. She went to public schools, and one of my friends was her classmate at Horace Mann (a magnet junior high) prior to going to DC. She had already skipped a grade in school by the time she left Arkansas. She was a National Merit semifinalist in the same year I was also one (though I beat her to college by a few months thanks to early admission) which would have earned her scholarships as it did me, and graduated from Stanford with highest honors.

This is a political discussion forum, a Democratic political discussion forum at that. When something makes headlines related to prominent Democrats, it's going to be posted here.

It's sad that you feel you must devalue an achievement simply because of animus toward a girl's parents.

[L0oniX]

70. So you relate to rich people. Good for you.

Well we wouldn't know who she is without her parents ...where as the homeless girl from NYC got her self a scholarship and went to Harvard. That IMO is very praise worthy.

simply because of animus toward a girl's parents

[moriah]

76. I relate to intelligent people. I was on free lunches, myself.

But it's not *all* rich people you despise so much, or you wouldn't have gotten irked about me calling you on the fact our current President is far better off than most of us ever will be.

Chelsea's gotten flak from the moment her father was elected, and I guess I shouldn't expect it to stop now. It's just really sad to see it come from Democrats. I expected similar frothing at the mouth over her daring to be successful in her life at Free Republic, not here.

[L0oniX]

79. Seems to me many rich people have sold us down the river. I guess it's just me that thinks so huh.

[Enthusiast]

115. No. You're not the only one.

[Dorian Gray]

113. and repeat

ad infinitum.

[catbyte]

128. Um, LOoniX, you sound a bit bitter. Chelsea couldn't help who her parents are

anymore than that homeless NYC student. Would you rather she was a useless, Paris Hilton type?

[L0oniX]

78. So you have to resort to petty direct insulting? I would think you would know better.

[aquart]

102. Bill Clinton worked his ass off for his scholarships.

Then he raised a child with a work ethic anyone should respect.

NOBODY gets a doctorate without putting in the sweat and the thought.

Seen any Bushes with that degree? Any Kochs?

And the Clintons are very well off, but Chris Rock has a brilliant routine that will teach even the dumbest to distinguish between what they have and REAL money. Catch it on YouTube.

[heaven05]

125. no, no I haven't

the bush girls just flew around the country at tax payers expense partying and getting publicly drunk while making a spectacle of themselves while MSM kept it quiet. GO CHELSEA!!!! You did good girl.

[Cha]

72. It says it wants to bring "hate" to a thread about Chelsea recieving her Doctorate from Oxford. nt

[MineralMan]

22. How kind of you to say so.

You don't have to congratulate her on her doctoral degree, which I'm sure she earned legitimately, but there's also no reason to snark at her over it. Pretty disappointing, I think, and unseemly, to boot. She got a degree. Mom and Dad are proud of her. It's not a political issue at all.

Good for Chelsea, I say, and to everyone who earns their PhD.

[L0oniX]

25. Well some people need a replacement for Camelot I guess.

I am really puzzled as to why people care so much about the success of rich people above the successes of people in the lower class. To me it means so much more as an example if a poor and even homeless person makes it to college on a scholarship than one born into a rich family.

[MineralMan]

30. What people? If I hear of anyone who has achieved some

success, I'm glad to hear it. Chelsea is no exception. It's in the news, of course, because of who her parents are. That's inevitable, since the news media are interested in people who are or have been newsworthy.

When we see news about someone who is disadvantaged and still achieves success, we're all pleased by that, too. Today, the news had a story about Chelsea Clinton getting her PhD. Good for her. Recently, we heard news about her pregnancy. That's nice, too. We hear the news because her parents are notable. We don't hear about our neighbor who has gotten pregnant or earned a PhD. If we do know about it, we offer our congratulations.

What is small and unseemly is to take such an achievement and comment on it through snark. That's what you have done. And, as you've seen, a number of people find your snark to be ill-considered.

You are certainly free to snark as you please, but everyone else is also free to criticize such snarkiness, which some have done.

[L0oniX]

31. Indeed ...what people focus on says much about them.

[JI7]

47. this is a Democratic Board and you are surprised there are things posted about a Former Dem Pres ?

[L0oniX]

48. What is surprising is the ignorance of what rich people are doing to our country.

[JI7]

50. so why don't you discuss those things ? instead you are in a thread like this which could easily

be ignored.

[nomorenomore08]

87. I don't know if it's "ignorance." I just think there are better targets for our animus

than Chelsea Clinton.

[Dorian Gray]

114. It absolutely does

[DFW]

108. Born into a rich family?

She was born to the Governor of Arkansas, who was making less than $40,000 a year.

Kind of a low bar for "rich."

[AnotherMother4Peace]

23. My passive aggressive x would verbally abuse me, then say "can't you take a joke"

"what's wrong with you? I was just kidding." - Reminds me of this post. What's the sarcasm thingie in you post? Is that about the "nice wholesome filthy rich family" part or the "I can't wait for Chelsea to be our POTUS" or both? Maybe you should just take it out and say what you want to say.

[MerryBlooms]

62. +1 That post came across the same to me.

I've never been in an abusive relationship, but my mom, some friends and both my sisters were abused by their husbands. The scars can heal, but you never forget.
My best to you.

[Bobbie Jo]

66. +1

PA bullshit has always gone right through me.

Couldn't agree more.

[llmart]

84. Wow! That sounds just like my ex.....

When I'd call him out on his verbal abuse it was always "I was just kidding". He was "kidding" a lot and for a long time and then one time he "kidded" me one last time and the next thing he knew he was being served divorce papers.

People make comments like that because of something they lack in their own sense of self-worth. Why this poster would post on a thread about an ex-Democratic President's daughter's success with such venom is beyond me.

[951-Riverside]

27. then after that President George P Bush then President Malia Obama and then President Billy Bush

and then King William Arthur Philip Louis and finally the digitized soul of Larry Page and interesting enough this will be the same year Fox cancels the Simpsons.

[moriah]

28. If she was going to pursue politics, she'd have gotten a law degree. She didn't. Gah.

She's stayed remarkably well out of politics for the daughter of such prominent politicians. She had enough grief when Bill was President, I can't blame her.

[AAO]

107. I don't know - she could have majored in Public Policy which would suit her well in politics.

[DFW]

109. My daughter majored in Public Policy when she was in school in the States

She interned for Emily's List and hung around with then-Senator Obama and Howard Dean a bit, but she didn't go into politics. She didn't even stay in the States.

[AAO]

127. So Public Policy is no good for politics? Do we really need more lawyers?

I hope I misunderstood you.

[DFW]

129. I wish I knew

Maybe the fact that she is (also) a German citizen disqualified her from anyone being interested in asking her to do something more political.

She paid her dues. When other kids were seeking to clerk for the Supreme Court during summer break, she asked for (and got) a posting with UN War Crimes Tribunal in Sierra Leone. Managed to catch some ugly infection that was treated by some local doctor who fed her bogus antibiotics and she nearly died (some UN personnel figured out what was going on, and saved her life with some real medicine out of their stash).

She could have waited on tables in the States or she could take the offer of something more intellectually challenging in Germany, and she chose the latter. When it comes to our daughters' careers, we were very much pro-choice. We left it in her hands, and she made the choice.

[AAO]

130. She sounds like a wonderful person, DFW. n/t

[DFW]

131. She is a very impressive individual with one caveat

Don't EVER get on her bad side when she is tired or hungry!

Other than that, she is extremely dedicated to everything she gets involved with. Emily's List said she was the best intern they ever had. Her English is so good at this point, you'd never know it wasn't her mother tongue (same goes for her older sister who stayed on in the States after going to college there).

My brother and I had the good fortune to inherit a modest sum of cash when our parents died, and we plowed ALL of it into our children's education in the States. Seems like it was a better investment than a bigger house or fancier cars. My older nephew just got his Doctorate from Stanford (the media must have missed that one, but we don't care) and his younger brother is learning Arabic (has interned in Jordan and the US Embassy in Tunisia) and is now in graduate school for International Relations in New York--makes sense for a kid with one parent from the USA, one from Japan, and not one cousin whose native language is English.

[classof56]

29. Well, since you addressed this to "you all", I'll weigh in with my response:

No sarcasm intended.

[L0oniX]

32. Well I for one am happy this isn't about Imelda Marcos' legendary 3,000 plus shoe collection.

[Evergreen Emerald]

36. You know they earned it right?

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Hillary and bill were raised middle class. They achieved the American dream. Why would you
Begrudge them success?

[nomorenomore08]

88. I don't like a lot of things that her parents have done. But that doesn't reflect negatively

on their daughter in any way. After all, none of us choose our parents.

[Shankapotomus]

43. Why are you

trying to alienate other democrats based on the size of their bank account?

[L0oniX]

44. Why do you love rich people?

[JI7]

45. so you hate FDR and Kennedys also ?

[L0oniX]

46. ...and you love the Koch's?

[JI7]

49. i hate the Kochs, i also hate non wealthy right wingers like the fake plumber but i don't hate FDR

[L0oniX]

51. I doubt we will ever see anyone like FDR ever again.

[Shankapotomus]

56. And the same thing can't be done to you?

Disabled people can't hate you because you can walk?

Single people can't hate you if you have someone?

Blind people can't hate you because you can see?

The friendless can't resent you for your friends?

You're not spoiled because you have these things?

You don't have an unfair advantage over anybody?

You were born with zero advantages over anyone?

Only you are beyond reproach for your advantages?

I can't beleive I have to spell this out for you.

This "I hate the rich just because they are rich" narative is a pretty immature position.

[L0oniX]

64. "I hate the rich just because they are rich" Where'd that come from?

Sounds like what the GOP would say about populists and or unionists.

[Shankapotomus]

67. If you feel you are being

misread you are free to clarify your previously contested statements.

[L0oniX]

69. Misreading and reading into can be fun.

[Shankapotomus]

74. I see

The Clinton's don't qualify as true democrats to you, right? And therefore this thread looks like nothing more than entertainment news about the rich and famous or worse, congratulating the success of some GOP's daughter?

Good point. I have to agree the Clinton's are watered down democrats compared to other democratic representatives we could be focusing on.

[muriel_volestrangler]

112. It comes from your attitude in this whole thread

From post #9 onwards. If you have not meant to give the impression that you hate the rich just because they are rich, then you have lousy communication skills. For instance, post #20: "I don't like rich people".

[Dorian Gray]

117. How dare

you read into that?!?!

[nomorenomore08]

89. Is there no gray area between fawning and sheer venom?

I'm as disgusted as anyone at what our faux-aristocracy has done to the rest of us. But I don't see how every individual born into wealth is personally to blame.

[DFW]

110. Not to mention that Chelsea was NOT born into wealth

Unless a $35,000 a year salary as Governor of Arkansas is "wealth."

[nomorenomore08]

119. True. I guess they didn't get rich till later on, really. n/t

[DFW]

120. Way later

Clinton didn't come into serious money until after he left office in 2001. Chelsea was nearly 21 by then. No one starts their academic career at 21. You're either already on your way by that age or you never will be (unless you're Adrian Cronauer, and he is not typical of anyone).

[nomorenomore08]

121. The Presidency is certainly a very nice salary, but I see what you mean. n/t

[DFW]

123. It didn't get doubled to $400K until after Clinton

He only got $200K, and after taxes, you still have to pay personal expenses out of your own pocket. $200K as POTUS is no bargain.

[fasttense]

124. I understand what you are saying.

She had everything handed to her on a silver platter thanks to the wealth and power of her parents. So we should be celebrating she did something besides partying like the bush twins? She should succeed, there is nothing standing in her way like it is with most people.

If a middle class or poor person had done this, it would be an amazing accomplishment. Because she is so rich, it's not really all that impressive.

Personally, I really do dislike most rich people just because they are rich. Yes, I will admit it. Rich people are usually self satisfied, over indulged brats. They have poor people skills and tend be ignorant no matter how many degrees they buy. They expect the world to bow down to them just because they were born into wealth and have advantages others do not have. I find them tedious, arrogant and stupid. Most contribute nothing to society except to deteriorate it a little more for a little more wealth or power.

But most Americans are fascinated by the wealthy and to admit you find the wealthy immoral, greedy and tedious is to stray from the standard American religion of wealth worship.

[NBachers]

94. So, uh, tell us all about YOUR Oxford doctorate. Or is that too small an accomplishment

for a lofty critic like you?

[Number23]

95. + a million.

[tofuandbeer]

103. Yeah. I'm tired of celebrating the rich: GOP and Dems.

In the past 2 years, I'm really feeling the middle class destruction, and I don't want to watch the rich celebrate anymore.

[MoonRiver]

15. Congrats Chelsea!

[sheshe2]

17. Congrats to Chelsea!

And a Happy Mothers Day to Hilary and Chelsea!

Thanks bigtree, great photos~

[oldandhappy]

19. Congratulations to Chelsea re Ph.D.

and Congratulations to Mark and Chelsea re baby

and congratulations to all moms

[JDPriestly]

21. Congratulations to Chelsea Clinton. That is quite an achievement.

[Politicub]

24. Congrats to Chelsea!

International relations, eh?

I see a smart, benevolent Secretary of State in the making!

[NJCher]

34. when will Jenna Bush

be getting her Ph.D.? Anyone know?


Cher

[ScreamingMeemie]

52. When did she run for office again??

I really hate it when kids are attacked when their parents are the candidates.

To her credit, she has done work for UNICEF, and I used to think she was a closet Dem.

[Jefferson23]

53. NBC awards Ph.D's? n/t

[NJCher]

38. also

Please note this, from the second link by the OP:

The younger Clinton, a special correspondent for NBC News, is a graduate of Stanford University and holds master's degrees from Oxford and Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health.

During an appearance on ABC's "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" in April, the former president noted that once his daughter receives her doctorate, she will have four degrees. (bf mine)

"She'll have as many as her parents do — combined," Bill Clinton said. "When she was younger, the way all kids are, she thought she knew more than I did about everything. But alas, in my dotage, it turned out to be true!"

Impressive, even if she didn't have to worry about college loans and paying them back.

If you read the articles, you see she spends a good deal of time on public health issues. If you're a person with a conscience and who has been fortunate to get a place in life like she has, that's what one does.

Hey, she could spend her time using her family's name to make even more money. There are plenty of people around who would love to "help" her do so.


Cher

[Zipgun]

39. Good for her. I hope it pisses of the know nothings in the tea party.

I am interested to see what she does in the future.

[NBachers]

97. You don't have to look all the way over to the teabaggers to see who's pissed off about it

Also- Hey Zipgun- Welcome to Democratic Underground

Marc Bolan- Zip Gun Boogie

[Zipgun]

132. Thanks

Now that is a little gem I did not know about. Thanks again.

[libdem4life]

40. Well, Rush, whadda ya think about that? She turned into a smart and savvy young woman, and you're

still a ranting troglodyte whose remaining advertisers have to hold their nose. The Limbaughs and Sterlings and Hannitys and Becks of this world are dying off...politically, if not in the RIP sense of the word.

Between Kevin Durant and Chelsea Clinton and Jason Collins and Michael Sam (the NBA, Women's Issues, LGBT Issues and the NFL) and all the others who are breaking old rickety, outworn social structure and barriers, it's a sign of things to come and gives one hope. They are newsworthy because they have a positive influence on many people...whether of talent or birth does not matter.

[bigtree]

54. kick pic

Former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, second left, takes off her sunglasses to pose for a group photograph with her husband former U.S. President Bill Clinton, left, their daughter Chelsea, second right, and her husband Marc Mezvinsky, as they leave after they all attended Chelsea's Oxford University graduation ceremony at the Sheldonian Theatre in Oxford, England, Saturday, May 10, 2014. Chelsea Clinton received her doctorate degree in international relations on Saturday from the prestigious British university. Her father was a Rhodes scholar at Oxford from 1968 to 1970. The graduation ceremony comes as her mother is considering a potential 2016 presidential campaign. (AP Photo/Matt Dunham)

[ChisolmTrailDem]

55. Her mother looks quite proud of her daughter too. That's a nice picture. Congratulations

to Chelsea. She has come so far while we have all watched. I am proud of her too.

[Jamaal510]

57. The guy on

the far left in that pic looks a little uncomfortable, judging by his facial expression.

[bigtree]

58. her husband

. . . in-laws

[WorseBeforeBetter]

60. He looks like quite the loving husband here.

Not everyone is comfortable posing for cameras.

[JI7]

61. i'm the same way or probably worse when posing for pics, i hate posing for pics

one reason i could never run for office.

[hopemountain]

63. congratulations, chelsea clinton!

lots of us are proud of you - not just your mom & dad.

peace to you, honey

[bigtree]

71. update: more pics

[Cha]

73. Mahalo bigtree~ Beautiful pics of Chelsea and her parents as she's recieved her Doctorate from

Oxford!

[OldRedneck]

77. So what??

Why is Chelsea's PhD such a big deal? I mean, Willow Palin completed cosmetology school and DU ignored her.

[bigtree]

80. personally

. . . it's a blast to see the young lady I watched grow up in the WH accomplish so much (her fourth degree).

As an individual, the work that she's chosen to involve herself in isn't inconsequential to many issues and concerns that we focus on here at DU; hunger, disease, education, families . . .


Chelsea Clinton, Vice Chair of the Clinton Foundation, works with her parents, President Bill Clinton and Secretary Hillary Rodham Clinton, to drive the vision and work of the Clinton Foundation . . .

Chelsea focuses especially on the Foundation's health programs, including the Clinton Health Access Initiative, which strengthens health care and access to lifesaving services in the developing world; the Alliance for a Healthier Generation, which fights childhood obesity in the United States; and the Clinton Health Matters Initiative, which addresses preventable disease in the United States. She also established – and continues to lead – the Clinton Foundation Day of Action program, which identifies and organizes meaningful service opportunities for Foundation staff, friends, and partners and for the wider Foundation community. As one of the strongest champions of the Clinton Global Initiative University, Chelsea works to empower the next generation of change makers to take action on some of the world's most urgent challenges. And through the Clinton Foundation Millennium Network, Chelsea plays an integral role in inspiring young leaders and philanthropists to get involved in the work of the Foundation.

In addition to her Foundation work, Chelsea is a special correspondent for NBC News. She previously worked at McKinsey & Company and Avenue Capital.

Chelsea also serves on the boards of the Clinton Health Access Initiative, the School of American Ballet, Common Sense Media and the Weill Cornell Medical College. She is the Co-Chair of the Advisory Board of the Of Many Institute at NYU. Chelsea holds a B.A. from Stanford, a MPhil from Oxford, and a MPH from Columbia's Mailman School of Public Health . . .



. . . Willow

[llmart]

86. OK, you win this thread.

Thanks for the laugh!

[Thinkingabout]

81. Congratulations Chelsea, a great accomplishment, your parents are very proud.

[calimary]

83. Awww... good for them!

Excellent! I'm proud of her, too!

[Skittles]

85. contratulations to Chelsea

happy for the Clintons

[silvershadow]

90. Good for her. nt

[Spitfire of ATJ]

91. Beats this....

[SpankMe]

92. First pic is cool...

Reminds me of the beginning of a joke: A former president, a PhD, and a future president walk in to a bar...

[House of Roberts]

101. That's not a joke.

Does Hillary have a PhD?

[AgingAmerican]

93. A PHD is a huge mountain to climb

So proud of her. You go girl!

[Hekate]

96. Well-done Dr. Clinton!

[aquart]

98. Dr. Clinton, I presume?

[King_Klonopin]

100. Now Scott Brown can refer to her as "Professor" Clinton, snark included!

You have to have ambition and ability to pursue a PhD;
it simply can't be bought.
Why should her personal success make anyone feel bitter ?

[Warren DeMontague]

104. K&R

Congrats to The Clintons, and Chelsea in particular.

[nikto]

105. She had the best education available

You know, with lots of testing and drilling on The Standards.

[DFW]

111. I heard Chelsea Clitnon speak briefly at the Denver convention in 2008

No long speech, but it was obvious then that this was a woman with brains of her own who needed no one to prop her up because of her name. The greatest asset Bill and Hillary gave her was the genes to be an intelligent thinking individual in her own right. The rest was gravy, but not vital.

[Ino]

118. My sister just got her PhD at age 65

Worked at a major university for 16 years to get free tuition for her son, and earned herself a Master's and a PhD in her spare time. Now THAT is something to be proud of. Then the university eliminated her position. The unemployment office said, "Oh honey, you're never going to get a job."

Way to gooooooo Chelsea

[OldRedneck]

122. But . . . can she dance????

I mean, Bristol Palin has a GED and was on Dancing With The Stars!!!!

[moriah]

126. Why yes, yes she can....