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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:32 AM Mar 2012

Kerry rallies democratic supporters by warning of 'swift boat' redux

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John Kerry says he remembers what it is like to be "swift boated." Eight years later, he sees it happening again.

The senator from Massachusetts brought the group that attacked his military service record in the 2004 presidential campaign into the 2012 conversation in a fundraising e-mail to supporters of President Barack Obama.

(snip)
"But guess what: Bob Perry, the deep-pocketed funder of the "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth," just gave $3 million to Mitt Romney's Super PAC," Kerry said in the e-mail. "Let's be ready for it - let's fight back."

(snip)
"Their multi-million dollar smear tactics were new in 2004; in 2012 we know their playbook, and shame on us if we don't tear it into shreds. Join me and we will stop the 'swiftboating' of President Obama."

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Kerry rallies democratic supporters by warning of 'swift boat' redux (Original Post) cal04 Mar 2012 OP
maybe THIS time some dems will fight back nt msongs Mar 2012 #1
Kerry did fight back in 2004 - in exactly the way that would have worked even 4 years before karynnj Mar 2012 #4
Thanks to John Kerry. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #2
Kick politicasista Mar 2012 #3

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
4. Kerry did fight back in 2004 - in exactly the way that would have worked even 4 years before
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 03:16 PM
Mar 2012

The truth is that the media condoned a character assassination of both Kerrys - maybe because the powers that be feared a significant turn to the left of the Supreme Court. It was known that whoever won would replace Renquist, who was near death and he was a solid consverative and they would likely replace at least one of the "swing" justices, likely O'Connor. It is also very probable, especially if Kerry's re-election were in doubt, that Stevens would have stepped down at that time - though that would not shift the court. A court after one Kerry term would be significantly more liberal than it was --- instead, it moved to the right. This is likely also why the Catholic church fought Kerry as much as they did - then did far less against Obama. It is true that Obama replaced two justices - but the two he replaced were liberals.


As to the SBVT, Kerry did fight back:

The campaign's immediate reaction to the August attack was to put out 36 pages listing lies and discrepancies in the book. That was done within ONE DAY of the book's emergence in August.(In 2008, the first reaction of the Obama team was to put out 41 pages on lies in Corsi's book.) This should have been sufficient to spike their attack. How many lies are people usually allowed when they are disputing the official record, offering nothing - not one Telex, photo, or record sent upward discussing Kerry as the problem portrayed in the book - as proof. They also proved within a week the links to Bush - in funding, lawyers, and in one case the B/C people were caught passing it out. In addition, Kerry surrogates including some of his crew, Rassman and Cleland countered it. (Like Kerry, Obama used surrogates against Corsi rather than respond himself)

That was far more proof countering the liars than the Clinton machine ever put out on anything. The problem was that it went to the media and they refused to play the role of evaluating who was telling the truth - the Washington Post's editor even saying they wouldn't. The broadcast media was worse. Would Obama have done as well if the networks and cable TV failed to give coverage to his speech on race in the furor over Reverand Wright?

Many Democrats, including Edwards who was asked to, did little. It wasn't that they had no ammunition to use. There was an abundance of proof - far more than would be typically available as they hit against a well documented official record. Even before the August re-emergence, the Kerry campaign had already provided the media with more than enough backup for them to reject the August attack out of hand. It should also be mentioned that it was not Kerry's accounts they disputed, it was the NAVY's official record.

Backing the NAVY account over the SBVT, Kerry had the following:

he had 120 pages of naval records - spanning the entire interval with glowing fitness reports - all given to the media and on his web site from April on. That alone should have been enough.

He had every man on his boat for every medal earned 100% behind him. That alone should have been enough.

He had the Nixon administration on tape (that they thought would never be public) saying he was both a genuine war hero and clean, but for political reasons should be destroyed. (SBVT O'Neil was one of those tasked to destroy Kerry in 1971.) That alone should have been enough.

He also was given a plum assignment in Brooklyn as an aide to a rear admiral. From the naval records, this required a higher security clearance - clearly his "employers" of the last 3 years (many SBVT) had to attest to his good character. That's just standard. That alone should have been enough.

The then secretary of the Navy (John Warner) said he personally had reviewed the Silver Star Award and it was well deserved. That alone should have been enough.

Compare this list of proof to Carville & Co response on Clinton's Flowers or draft problems - this is far more comprehensive and completely refutes the charges. The Clinton responses in these two instances did not completely refute the charges - in fact, after changing his story a few times in each case - conceding that earlier statements were not completely true - parts of the charges were conceded. The difference was that in 1992 - even in the primary - Clinton was given breaks by a media that wanted him to win. The fact is that we KNEW in those two cases that he was willing to dissemble and scapegoat others when he was called on his actions - two things that later hurt his Presidency.

In any previous election, calmly and professionally countering lies by disproving them would have been the obvious preferred first step. It is only when there is no open and shut case (unlike here) that the candidate would try anything different.When this didn't work, Kerry did speak to the issue - and he did so before the Firefighters as soon as it was appear that the attack was beginning to hurt him. Many here - all political junkies didn't here this. Why? The media that gave a huge amount of free time to people they had to know were lying didn't think that it was important to give the Democratic nominees response air time. Now, it was - I think less than 2 minutes long - so there is no excuse.

Note that I said that Teresa was also smeared. Even now, how many Democrats know that she was instrumental in the recovery that Pittsburgh had in the 1990s. Teresa, seeing how depressed Pittsburgh was, called other Pittsburgh philanthropists and proposed that they band together to do things that revitalized the town - in essence, they gave Pittsburgh a stimulus. The result was a healthier, cleaner, greener, more economically healthy Pittsburgh? In addition, did you know that she and her foundation worked with cities and states on healthcare and education - funding prototype programs? Maybe if anyone covered that, her respect and love for Kerry would have validated him - as Elizabeth's did for her husband. In addition, it would have allowed people to understand her answer on how she and Laura Bush differed.


politicasista

(14,128 posts)
3. Kick
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 02:58 PM
Mar 2012

Thanks Senator.

Hopefully you'll be appreciated more for doing this and everything else, instead of how much dough you have.

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