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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMonica fa-chrissakes Lewisnky is back in the news again.
Monica Lewinsky is back in the news again, claiming that the internet and the president and basically everyone took advantage of her, and all the networks and newspapers are running with it while giggling like titmice. While I do agree that the internet chewed her up and shat her out, and while to this day I want to hit President Clinton with a folding chair for fooling around with the staffer when he knew the entire GOP was actively out for his blood, and while I know for certain that her sudden arrival on the scene again is no coincidence...
...the fact remains that I WILL SMASH ALL OF THE THINGS IF I HAVE TO GO THROUGH TWO YEARS OF MONICA LEWINSKY/WHITEWATER/VINCE FOSTER/TRAVELGATE/PENIS PENIS PENIS COVERAGE BECAUSE THE USELESS SHITBAGS IN THE "NEWS" MEDIA DON'T ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE WORKING FOR A LIVING.
And note well, all ye Democrats who haz a giggly about Hillary Clinton running in 2016: that is EXACTLY what will happen. We will spend the next 700 days on that shit if she is in the race, with a few detours into Benghaziville, and there is nothing in the world you or anyone can do about it. The media is what it is. This will happen. Today's Monica eruption is but the tip of a very large iceberg looming out there just off the forward bow.
So file this under "Caveat," sub-section "Be careful what you wish for."
Just sayin'.
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)TYY
bigtree
(86,005 posts). . . it's either this stuff with Hillary, or some other nonsense trumped up to suit ANY other Democrat who dares challenge the GOP. 'Asking for it' is nothing more than choosing to support ANY Democratic candidate. Get used to it.
Whitewater was shamelessly leveraged off of a good man's suicide
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024915484
B2G
(9,766 posts)Hope he's hidden all of the ashtrays.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Is the idea that people shouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton because her husband cheated on her? I don't see how she's relevant.
2016 2016 2016 instead of 2014. Midterms are roundly ignored. Besides, this is red meat on a hook to the media.
lake loon
(99 posts)You'd think some alien space bimbo just landed on top of that missing plane.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)because you are a democrat with a brain.
She is relevant because of
Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, they hate Hillary. A woman with a brain. Almost as bad as a black guy, especially with a brain.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)with big ratings in mind...And despite all her claims to the contrary (even back in 1998), she absolutely loves the spotlight...
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)I imagine that has something to do with it.
Two, I imagine she's looking for a payday. Vanity Fair, other magazines, talk shows, radio shows, et cetera: all those people pay.
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BeyondGeography
(39,379 posts)seven or eight years ago.
Boomerproud
(7,964 posts)I had another rant about it in another thread so I won't repeat myself except to say...Go To Hell CNN!!!
B2G
(9,766 posts)Why Shes Going Public
When Tyler Clementi, the 18-year-old Rutgers freshman who was secretly streamed via Webcam kissing another man, committed suicide in September 2010, Lewinsky writes, she was brought to tears, but her mother was especially distraught: She was reliving 1998, when she wouldnt let me out of her sight. She was replaying those weeks when she stayed by my bed, night after night, because I, too, was suicidal. The shame, the scorn, and the fear that had been thrown at her daughter left her afraid that I would take my own lifea fear that I would be literally humiliated to death. Lewinsky clarifies that she has never actually attempted suicide, but had strong suicidal temptations several times during the investigations and during one or two periods after.
Lewinsky writes that following Clementis tragedy my own suffering took on a different meaning. Perhaps by sharing my story, I reasoned, I might be able to help others in their darkest moments of humiliation. The question became: How do I find and give a purpose to my past? She also says that, when news of her affair with Clinton broke in 1998, not only was she arguably the most humiliated person in the world, but, thanks to the Drudge Report, I was also possibly the first person whose global humiliation was driven by the Internet. Her current goal, she says, is to get involved with efforts on behalf of victims of online humiliation and harassment and to start speaking on this topic in public forums.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)A LOT of Koch money
B2G
(9,766 posts)So I doubt it.
I also fail to see how this will hurt Hillary, since she was universally seen as the victim in all of this.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...along the lines of "Do you really want Bill Clinton back in the WH?"....
ancianita
(36,133 posts)misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)They asked this morning how Lewinsky's emergence will affect Hillary's Presidential Campaign.
Jackpot Payday for Monica.
Chelsea & Hillary are the only victims of the humiliation that followed. Monica didn't give a $hit.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)can't remember which show but I'm pretty sure it was somewhere between Tamron and Joy.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)man. Didn't stop her from forging on with her mission.
She dares to compare in any way her humiliation that she brought on by her own desire to have an affair with a married man, to Tyler Clementi. Lowlife Monica. So much for Monicas poor innocent girl moral compass.
Did either Monica or Bill ever think of Hillary & Chelsea?
Yes, the family Ms Lewinsky never was a part of but had no regard for in their humiliation & destruction?
Hillary & Chelsea, the wife & daughter of the man Monica Lewinsky was showing her thong to in the Oval Office, were the only real victims of humiliation.
Cue the GOP smear machine.
Yes Will Pitt, until November 2016.
Good timing Monica. How much will she make off this media blitz?
Go Away. The story of innocence & unfair humiliation belongs to Hillary & Chelsea Clinton.
distantearlywarning
(4,475 posts)Self-inflicted misery on Monica's part.
If she really wants to move past that sordid, sad part of her life, perhaps she shouldn't be giving interviews about it all these years later.
This is just more PR anti-Hillary bullshit. Somebody is dredging up Ms. Lewinsky in an effort to taint Hillary's campaign.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)She may just be dusted off & paraded out there with Lewinsky before the 2016 election.
I'm guessing they will save her for the REAL STORY America's just dying to know..again.
S.O.B.'s
Whisp
(24,096 posts)The double standard writ LARRRRRRGE.
but blame the woman, she's the evil one. He on the other hand is an undignified liar and cheat, but that's ok man! What's a red blooded guy to do if it's offered!
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Bill Clinton is not the one splayed across a magazine cover.
Bill Clinton isn't out on a media news blitz comparing his self proclaimed innocence to that of Tyler Clementi.
This crock of crap is solely brought to us by Monica Lewinsky & those who wish to intimidate & re-victimize & humiliate Hillary & Chelsea Clinton.
This isn't about Bill.
Jeb talks about running for President & Benghazi is being investigated now with a lopsided 7-5 panel favoring Republicans.
Jeb talks of a Presidential bid & Monica Lewinski shows up selling her innocence & victimization & humiliation. And Effin comparing herself to Tyler Clementi.
OMFG!! Wow Monica. Low down snake you are.
Bill Clinton wasn't the only one in the scandal. He had help. You were in it up to your neck lady.
I call BS & William Pitt is correct in saying this wil be dragged out until the election of 2016.
Monica wan no victim. Monica created a case for her own humiliation.
Tyler Clementi did not.
Hillary & Chelsea Clinton did not.
Monica Lewinsky is a taker.
Capitalizing nicely on the game she played with Bill Clinton.
Chelsea & Hillary were the victims.
Monica was in it for the thrill. The game.
She is a bald faced liar in this latest media blitz.
I have no pity for her ilk.
She was no victim of anything.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)tblue37
(65,488 posts)"Presidential kneepads," so her humiliation was not something visited on her innocent self from out of the blue.
Clinton was an idiot, but ML also aggressively stalked him specifcally because she knew he was someone who had a long history if not being able to keep it in his pants.
That being said, though, she was 22, and he was middle-aged. The brain does not finish developing unntil about 25, and the part that is still immature at 22 is the part that controls impulse and takes into consideration the long-term consequences of one's actions.
IOW, there is *some* excuse for her immature behavior, none for his.
A pox on both their houses, though. (And on John Edwards, too, while I am at it.)
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)ancianita
(36,133 posts)on the campaign trail during either 2014 or 2016. They'll keep paying this woman until our side offers her more just to shut up.
So why don't we offer her more? And why don't we OUT HER MONEY TRAIL.
I'm surprised at the willingness to jump on her and everything but the ones paying her!
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)GOP will use the same MO that garnered them success for the last Bush selected.
Here we go again.
Follow the money. Who's paying Monica?
UGH..
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)I don't know who was paying her, but someone sure was. Also, the gal who pulled all the information out of her...forget her name. She was definitely a convenient source. Is she still alive? Did Monica ever get married?
bvar22
(39,909 posts)but I really wish THAT one would just fade away.
I wonder if they will drag out the Blue Dress?
I believe we can COUNT on it if Hillary is the nominee.
Presidential Politics long ago became a Media Driven HomeComing Court Event,
and NOT about The ISSUES.
[font size=3]" The League of Women Voters is withdrawing sponsorship of the presidential debates...because the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter. It has become clear to us that the candidates' organizations aim to add debates to their list of campaign-trail charades devoid of substance, spontaneity and answers to tough questions. The League has no intention of becoming an accessory to the hoodwinking of the American public."[/font]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_debates
"the hoodwinking of the American public"
I have not seen a more apt description of Corporate Duopoly Politics.
In 2012, MSNBC Debate Analysis featured a category called "Best Zingers" to help America decide who "won" the debate.
This criteria was also heavily featured at DU.
I'm glad I'm old and grow my own food.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Last edited Tue May 6, 2014, 05:50 PM - Edit history (1)
Edited. Wording wasnt the best.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Lancero
(3,013 posts)Huh. Didn't know that.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)H. Clinton represents Wall Street. We can not survive the Wall Street run government. Time for Change. Real Change.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)No, it's not a shitty sitcom, but the groundwork for another fucking Bush Presidency.
They're going to impeach Obama around the midterm elections (either before, but I think just after).. He'll survive but it doesn't really matter anymore.
Monica is back in the news after more than ten years of silence. Hillary is going to be dragged through the mud again because of (how you so eloquently stated) PENIS, VINCE FOSTER....
And off in the corner, getting the band back together, are the Neocon death merchants who have tired of the uncontrollable, batshit crazy, TeaBaggers and this time (JUST LIKE THEY'VE DONE SINCE 19 FUCKING 79) are going to run Bush DNA, that they can control and profit from.
So get ready folks, Heeeere Comes Jebby
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misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Fool us once..fool us twice..Fool us three times..
napkinz
(17,199 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Reformed Bully
(43 posts)Michelle & Jill
lululu
(301 posts)Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)Monica, Whitewater, Benghazi...
There must be others. I'm sure we're missing a few.
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)When you're wealthy or famous or have access, this happens A LOT more than we'd like to admit. Some rich families have "open marriages" and don't give a crap.
...THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION! happened and we're still talking about Monica Blowinsky?
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)rudolph the red
(666 posts)WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)Emphasis on hyperbole: obvious and intentional exaggeration. Noun.
Lots of folks around here do about as well with hyperbole as they do with Sanskrit.
rudolph the red
(666 posts)TBF
(32,090 posts)Hillary's book is coming out next month. What a coincidence ...
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)You have been warned.
Agony
(2,605 posts)DON'T ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE WORKING FOR A LIVING."
GAWD doesn't that sum it up nicely!
although, it might be said, the entertainment cum news corporations don't feel like spending any money actually supporting journalists/journalism.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)that woman, nor did she ever meet her. What do they have on her?
Benghazi, HealthCare, Vince Foster (yeah, we had all forgotten about that), Whitewater???
As hard as those assholes have tried, they are still the Wile E. Coyotes of the political world.
And don't forget that Richard Mellon Scaife (aka, the funder of the Arkansas Project) is now going through his own nasty divorce, which is music to my ears and to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette!! The divorce has been dragging out for years now.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Bill Clinton was a man of the people. The poor and the African American people loved him.
DIng Ding Ding..The same racial shit that took MLK, and Robert Kennedy are still operating at the core of the GOP today. Teabillies or whatever fringe they congregate within.
They are still the party of White Supremacy..KKK..& believe in suppression of any race other than theirs..and the poor and of course WOMEN.
My lord..see what Demons the mere mention of Richard Mellon Scaiffe, brings out in a person..
JanMichael
(24,890 posts)?
Whisp
(24,096 posts)lululu
(301 posts)This turned her into a joke for the rest of her life. The fact that Hillary is still with Bill says something about Hill's judgement (which is lousy anyway.)
JanMichael
(24,890 posts)which has always been fairly good. Get a grip, and get out of 1962.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)teacher, also).
And Hillary should have divorced her husband? Is DIVORCE now the "FAMILY VALUES" preference?
GIVE IT UP.
Mike Nelson
(9,966 posts)...running out of money.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Thus the Lewinsky "I'm a victim of my own humiliating behavior" card must be played.
dembotoz
(16,832 posts)what career options does she have
she had potential--being a white house intern had to look good on a resume
who is going to hire her
when you have bad options you have bad options
Whisp
(24,096 posts)no double standard here, folks. None at all!
Listen to yourselves. Ugh.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Never mind. You believe & stand for whatever you want.
Monica Lewinsky's behavior caused her own humiliation.
She is no victim.
Hillary was.
Chelsea was.
Tyler Clementi was.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)and it wasn't the first time.
but whatever, boys will be boys.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Have a nice day.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)Bill is a liar and a cheater. Fact.
Is this the only thing he lied and cheated about? Doubt it. It's part of his character but if he's a Dem, let's all forgive and forget and paint stories that make it all better in our minds.
Mister Ed
(5,943 posts)Are you suggesting that Dems ought not nominate Hillary Clinton because if we do, the Republicans will smear her?
Because I'm thinking, well, we could nominate a decorated combat veteran, but then, you know, there's that Swiftboat thing.
I suppose we could always nominate a black man, but if we did, then the next thing you know they'd be trying to convince the public that he was an imposter and usurper who was actually born in Kenya or someplace.
No. No. A thousand times no. We should not let such screaming, smearing, scurrilous, deceitful scumbags influence our selection of a nominee.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)Springslips
(533 posts)She's a historical figure who had a birthdate. Stop seeing things that are not there.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)That SUCKS! You'd be willing to let them get away with this because YOU don't want to hear their shit. If we and the media ignore her nonsense maybe she just might fade away. Fat chance! It's reactions like this that gives FOX ammunition...just what the crazies want...and you're falling for it! You're helping the Rethugs get rid of Hillary! Thanks!
muntrv
(14,505 posts)libodem
(19,288 posts)Over her wetsuit for the impending shitshow. She apparently doesn't need or want a private life.
I dislike seeing someone I respect be abused but that is not her problem it's mine. I'll try to buck up.
dsc
(52,166 posts)we haven't heard about Kenya, or Bengazi, or Obama's pastor, or Obama's dog, or Michelle, or well I could go on. We could nominate Jesus and the GOP would tell the only reason the man was walking on water was because he couldn't swim.
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Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Will there be an appearance by Ken Star? Maybe he will appear on the Sunday Morning talk shows. Maybe they can find Paula Jones to interview.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Jemon
(49 posts)Quote please.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Starr's deputies threatened not only Lewinsky, but also her mother, Marcia Lewis. During Lewinsky's 12-hour interrogation on January 16, 1998, after she had walked into the trap sprung by Linda Tripp, Lewinsky was told that her mother could face charges of obstruction of justice.....
At one point FBI agents told her she could not call her lawyer, Francis Carter, because their case was "time sensitive."
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/1999/03/lew-m06.html
KENNETH STARR then proceeded to publish those details in a book.
KENNETH STARR led the prosecution of a President over a sexual dalliance, AGAIN probing for salacious details.
Starr was not able to ask all the questions he wanted to before the predetermined time expired and Clinton refused to extend, according to the sources. Starr, sources said, told Clinton he may subpoena him to get answers to the questions the president rebuffed, prompting a possible new constitutional court battle.
Clinton's attorney, David E. Kendall, said later that Clinton was justified in refusing to answer because the questions were improperly and unnecessarily graphic. "As to a very few highly intrusive questions, with respect to the specifics of this [sexual] contact, in order to preserve personal privacy and institutional dignity, he gave candid, but not detailed, answers," Kendall said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/clinton081898.htm
BILL CLINTON tried, for his own, for Monica's, and for his family's sakes, NOT ONLY to keep the affair a secret; he ALSO tried to END the affair.
Sure, he was weak; nevertheless,
"When Clinton again told Lewinsky in May 1997 that their sexual relationship was over, she redoubled efforts that began the previous year to enlist the President's assistance in finding employment."
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/clinton/clintontrialaccount.html (Graphic.)