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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 05:15 PM Mar 2012

Zimmerman had no intention of not following Trayvon.

Zimmerman's 911 call lasted for 4:07 minutes
When did Zimmerman go back to his truck to have this so-called encounter with Trayvon?

Trayvon was talking on his cell phone with his girlfriend when she heard Trayvon ask "Why are you following me?" That happened within a minute of Trayvon's death.

Her cell phone records show that the call began @ 7:12 p.m. After Zimmerman's 911 call, the Dispatcher received 911 calls reporting screams and gunshot(s), one where you can hear both the screams and the gunshot.

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At 7:17p.m., as Officer Smith responds to original 911 call, he arrives on the scene and receives another call from dispatch about gunshot(s) being fired. The police report shows that he arrived on the scene at 7:17 p.m.

Trayvon was already dead. He was found lying on his stomach with his hands underneath his body. If Trayvon and Zimmerman were fighting and Zimmerman shot Trayvon at close range, how did Zimmerman have enough time to get Trayvon off of him before witnesses and police came out to see what happened? Where was the blood splatter? When does someone shot in the chest fall forward?


lots more ?s:

Zimmerman's account, as written in the Post, that the second encounter was at Zimmerman's truck, how is it that the actual crime scene is quite some distance away from the truck? The truck is parked on the street. Trayvon was killed in a cutaway between rows of houses. The only way for a "second" confrontation to occur is for Zimmerman to leave his truck and follow Trayzon along the path, where he was subsequently shot and killed.

TRANSCRIPT 911 CALL:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/29/1078912/-The-Rest-of-Zimmerman-s-911-Call

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kpete

(71,994 posts)
2. there is personal info in that pdf
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 05:26 PM
Mar 2012

i did NOT want to put it out there any more than it already is.

thanks, and peace,
kpete

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
3. Yep, in the 911 call with the gunshots, the caller says it's happening in their backyard
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 05:30 PM
Mar 2012

not in the street or parking lot.


Regarding Trayvon lying on his stomach, he could have rolled over after being shot, that's certainly possible.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
5. Rolled over ...
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 06:29 PM
Mar 2012

to a position on his stomach with his hand under him? That would be quite the fate.

cgw

(3 posts)
8. 2 witnesses have said they saw Zimmerman
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 07:29 PM
Mar 2012

standing over Martin, one foot on each side of his body, pressing down or at least touching Martin's back.

So for "rolled over" it's possible that he was on his back when he was shot and Zimmerman then rolled him over to make it look like he fell face-forward. The two witnesses may have come in at the very end, seeing them just as Zimmerman finished rolling him over.

No blood on Zimmerman's shirt, etc., (surveillance video) certainly would support this hypothesis. If he shot Martin at point-blank range; and if Martin was on top of him as Zimmerman said, then you would expect blood to follow the rules of gravity and fall on Zimmerman or splatter downward.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
4. Everything Zimmerman has said is an outright lie
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 06:05 PM
Mar 2012

He stalked Trayvon and shot him in cold blood. Zimmermen is a paranoid racist gun nutty sack just like his father. Why hasn't he been arrested? Zimmerman should be behind bars.

 

SamG

(535 posts)
7. "a paranoid racist gun nutty sack just like his father." should be
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 06:50 PM
Mar 2012

in jail for the rest of his life, for pre-meditated cold-blooded murder.

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