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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsZimmerman's people can clear things up in a hurry -
just post some ACTUAL - not photoshopped - pictures of Zimmy's bloody clothes, broken nose and consequential black eyes, head wound to the back of his head that needed stitches but somehow speed-healed on its own so it didn't need stitches, and grass stains on his back. Since he was beaten to within a metaphorical inch of his life, there should be plenty of bruises and other visible trauma, too, so post pics of those, as well.
If the video is "too grainy" then release some pics that are NOT grainy...after all, since this is Zimmy's main defense, certainly you took pictures of Zimmy's injuries - so where the fuck are they? Hmmm?
I'll be over here, waiting...
Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)So, Good luck with the proof coming out.
JFN1
(2,033 posts)Seems like common sense, to do so when you've fucking SHOT AND KILLED another human being...but, then again...
If there are no pictures, no doctor's or hospital reports, then there ARE NO INJURIES that can be demonstrably PROVEN.
Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)His father continues to lie in the face of indisputible evidence.
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)was really his father?
bananas
(27,509 posts)Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)the tide in the favor.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)I have seen that claim and counter claims by the State Attorney who is not releasing anything either
Ian David
(69,059 posts)And if I had killed the dude who did it, I would have made sure those photos were taken by a credible, authoritative source that could testify under oath.
Justice wanted
(2,657 posts)Life Long Dem
(8,582 posts)They won't release anything until after the investigation. Trayvon's family fought to have the 911 tapes released.
JFN1
(2,033 posts)due to the public pressure on them. Pics of Zimmy's injuries would take a lot of heat off Sanford PD, and would provide the cops a leg to stand on...
Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)of the pressure of their backs.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)She is sitting on a whole lot more than pictures.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Just because Zimms lawyer says it is...does not make it so. I see NOTHING on Zimm, no green or red or black or blue. Just a guy, clean dressed and under arrest. That video hurts far more then it helps.
But Zimmy, his peeps, and the cops all want to have it both ways...and if they complain about grainy video, then let them produce something better. Clearly, they have nothing better, or we'd have already seen it.
Grainy Video Strategy = Epic. Fail.
And just causes more questions to be asked, not less.
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)You would think they would want to have nice clear video...jes saying
lastlib
(23,239 posts)If you don't like the facts you have, make up some you do like.
Blather, rinse, repeat....
Rex
(65,616 posts)I still cannot believe they tried such a stupid gambit. They must think average Americans are way too stupid to think for themselves! OR they believe most people are like them (Foxnews idiots).
Lost-in-FL
(7,093 posts)Someone needs to tell Zimmy's dad or the Sanford police to look deeper... see if they can pull them medical records from out of their collective asses.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)released to the PDs custody. These lies coming from the Zimmerman camp only make him seem more of a liar and not less imo.
Life Long Dem
(8,582 posts)... by the time Zimmerman reached a doctor, "there was an option not to stitch it up because it had already started healing, is my understanding," said the lawyer, who has talked with his client only by telephone.
Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/news/30745375/detail.html#ixzz1qXAM7WRL
But if he did in fact see a doctor then there would be medical records. But some feel he didn't even see a doctor based on this lawyers remarks.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)liar liar pants on fire, more and more lies are coming out.
NOTE, I am NOT calling Life Long Dem a liar but Z's people.
chowder66
(9,070 posts)if so, they do not appear to be as bad as indicated. He could have easily fallen down on his back and hit the back of his head on the ground. If his head was grabbed and banged while also having his mouth covered and held down, Trayvon would have had to have an extra arm or two. Z's head would have been difficult to grab (shaved and rainy) so you would think there would have been bruising on other parts of his face unless of course Trayvon used Z's nose as a handle to bang his head into the ground.
If there was a scuffle - the most likely scenario seems to be that Z tried to subdue him or something and when Trayvon tried to get away or fight him off that is where any injury would have occured but it does NOT look like Trayvon beat him bloody and battered him as the attack has been described.
Personally, Z looks in good condition as much as the cops that are with him in the video.
That guy who has defended Z, the anchor, kept bringing up how Z didn't drink when the question wasn't asked. He mentioned two or three times in the O'Donnell interview. I found that odd. Who knows if Zimmerman wasn't drunk before this happened? What if he had said injuries prior to the hunting of Trayvon?
on edit: maybe zimmermans dad saw the evidence of an old injury and zimmy jr said he got it in "said fight" with Trayvon. Hence the magical healing.
second edit: If there was a slight cut on the back of his head...could that not have been from shaving his head?
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)Where is the doctor's report?
JFN1
(2,033 posts)I wonder...with a nose job and a head wound, Zimmy should have been kept for observation overnight (according to my RN friend at my elbow BUGGING me what to type), as he could have had a severe concussion, skull fractures, TBI, or any number of other issues.
Sounds like Zimmy's "doctor" practices medicine the way Sanford PD practices law enforcement...
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Even if we pretend the video is "grainy", it's pretty clear there isn't a bandage on Zimmerman's head where he supposedly needed stitches.
EC
(12,287 posts)or abrasions on his hands or elsewhere that would have indicated a fight...anything on Zimmerman would be in question anyway...maybe he slipped in wet grass and fell and hit his head...who knows but him? I wouldn't believe anything coming out of his or his father's mouth.