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The situation at the Bundy ranch, where armed militiamen and Patriots are camped out, has deteriorated so badly that competing factions apparently drew weapons on one another during heated arguments.
We wrote on Wednesday about how tensions flared when a paranoid rumor of an imminent drone strike on the encampment began circulating. The team that primarily circulated the drone-strike rumor Stewart Rhodes Oath Keepers also began advising people to pull out, which sparked the wrath of militiamen.
Those militiamen voted to oust the Oath Keepers, and a couple even spoke of shooting Rhodes and his men in the back, which they deemed the proper battlefield treatment of deserters.
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/05/militiamen-and-oath-keepers-drew-weapons
Just the kind of asshats we need running the country. Maybe we will be lucky and they will take each other out. End of problem.
FSogol
(45,526 posts)I'm just sad no one popped a plastic bag at that moment.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Enthusiast
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OK, maybe a little bit funny.
Squinch
(51,004 posts)Those guys are going to shoot somebody. Best that it be each other.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)One car backfire and they wouldn't be able to figure out who shot whom.
eppur_se_muova
(36,289 posts)Have to save that for the NRA convention.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)surrealAmerican
(11,364 posts)This is just what happens when you gather a bunch of paranoid, heavily armed people.
calimary
(81,466 posts)Oh never mind.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)calimary
(81,466 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Actually, Pay Per View would be a good option.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)a reality show. If this is where they are going... I'd watch the playoffs of the stupids vs. the other stupids. Last man standing gets a hot dog.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)If they want to take each other out, no great loss.
Bummer that it stopped at that.
WhiteTara
(29,722 posts)Can you imagine what it will be like when it warms up in the desert? Dehydration, hallucinations, crazy people with guns all says to me, they will kill a few of each other and then want the government to come in and clean it all up.
But, if their government checks stopped, they couldn't afford to stay and fight those drone strikes that aren't coming.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)drm604
(16,230 posts)They're stopping people and demanding proof that they live in the area. What will they do if someone refuses to provide proof? What will they do if they stop someone who isn't a local?
These assclowns are acting like they're law enforcement.
These out of staters are demanding that locals prove that they live there! That says everything that's needs to be said about their real attitude towards the freedoms they claim to love so much.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,192 posts)appleannie1
(5,068 posts)take for one of them to accidentally shoot one of their own. When that many trigger happy lunatics walk around loaded to the hilt, it is an accident waiting to happen.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)That has been misreported from the beginning of the rumor. The press did not help any in getting the story right.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Oh well then.... I'm sure the locals don't mind them there then.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Mooch Militia Member: Turn it off
Cameraman: It's a public road
Mooch Militia Member: I don't care what you're on
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Starting at 2:20 (They're referring to the Oafkeepers).
Other insurgent: "Absolutely"
Insurgent wearing the black shirt: "You don't fucking walk in and say I'm sorry and you're back in brother, you can walk in and say you're sorry and you're lucky that you're not getting shot in the back because that's what happens to deserters on the battlefield"
Other insurgents: "Amen brother, amen"
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And maybe these photos
Checkpoint for citizens?
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Source: ericoverton.com
FEMA Supplies?
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Source: Twitter
barbtries
(28,811 posts)hopefully they pack up their shit and leave. but that's just chilling; these people are not in their right mind.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)and they'll leave. After all, they are not being paid, (except for disability probably) and summer in southern Nevada is brutal even to crazy people.
barbtries
(28,811 posts)they'll probably just fade away
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)And then these seditionists can be arrested at home!
adieu
(1,009 posts)is how we got Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Mormonism...
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Great framing!
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)tblue37
(65,487 posts)being allowed to join.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)And they have associate memberships open to anyone.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)But the same ones don't mind having PARAMILITARIES interfering with citizens, with NO RULES AT ALL.
They are a criminal gang, but no one dares say that because they have MONEY and they are WHITE.
eShirl
(18,503 posts)Hekate
(90,793 posts)If it were only the idiot militia and the moocher rancher at risk, I'd say "Fire at will." Unfortunately, a lot of innocent bystanders are in peril.
Paladin
(28,272 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,757 posts)The zombies will be the least of our problems.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,049 posts)But if they really need brains to keep moving, they would starve on the Bundy ranch.
StarryNite
(9,460 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,463 posts)Last edited Sat May 3, 2014, 06:15 PM - Edit history (1)
Just as soon as we get all our weeds whacked, we'll stick the engines in and go...
FSogol
(45,526 posts)But we're still entertaining Louie's laser shark/flying tiger look
sarisataka
(18,770 posts)It has always been the coolest design from the P-40s to A-10s
Brother Buzz
(36,463 posts)sarisataka
(18,770 posts)It is very similar to our unit logo when I was with the MPs, "Warpigs"
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Mon May 5, 2014, 07:30 PM - Edit history (1)
But it had a woman with a huge bosom painted on the nose, looked like she was lying down on her stomach and smiling at...
Well, someone. The guys were pretending they were holding it up. No kidding, they took turns, getting their picture taken, and my dad smiled angelically. Just rolled my eyes, you gotta love 'em...
I can't quite figure the shark out. Is the shark's lower jaw added on for effect or a real part of the plane? Are those missiles inside the jaw?
JohnnyRingo
(18,641 posts)Fighter planes were often painted too, and the art form was carried over to the crew's leather flight jackets as well. It usually involved one guy in the unit who could make a tidy sum with a paint brush and a talented hand as there would be many planes in a squadron.
The unique art form often emulated the famous Vargas girls of that era. Actual nudity was frowned upon by visiting high level officers, and there are stories where the crew would use water colors to temporarily paint a bikini on the girl. It was a big morale thing. Too bad someone lost that pic, I'd like to have seen it. People have published colorful coffee table art books on the subject.
In the warthog pic, that's a contemporary plane, the A10 "Warthog". That protrusion from the warthog's mouth is a large gatling gun with electrically rotating cannon barrels. It fires armor piercing ammo and is so big it lies under the pilot's seat. Since it's like seven rapid fire machine guns in one, it can unload an amazing amount of lead in a very short period of time. Also unofficially nicknamed "The Flying Can Opener", it's primarily used as an anti-tank weapon.
Brother Buzz
(36,463 posts)Lead is so yesterday. The GAU-8 on the A-10 employs depleted uranium for a bigger bang. I'm just saying
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)sarisataka
(18,770 posts)Encompasses the air intake below the prop. Though it was obsolescent at the start of WW2 it was a rugged plane that served well for several years. Most notably it was used in China by the Flying Tigers
The color picture is an A10, nicknamed the warthog. The GAU8 cannon is a weapon from hell that destroys tanks with one burst. It too is known as a tough plane that has come back missing key parts- Like wings or a tail. I can testify as a ground pounder that when you are pinned down by armor there is no better sight than a pair of those hogs coming in at about 50 feet
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Please keep us updated! Can you put an inexpensive camera on it? I would love to see the bugs scatter when they catch site of your "drone".
You win the internet today
chrisstopher
(152 posts)Just don't forget to strap a video cam on it.
Maraya1969
(22,497 posts)That would be so hysterical.
Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)I'm taking my real plane out to California next month from Texas. I could easily take a detour and do some low passes over the ranch at about 1000' or so, but I'm not sure one of those inbred dipshits wouldn't take a shot at me.
Brother Buzz
(36,463 posts)A stream of mystery vapors trailing from a plane flying overhead at, say, 3000 ft, just might get their undies in a bunch.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)ThoughtCriminal
(14,049 posts)"Pass it on..."
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)At the root, these people want to re-argue the Civil War. Local control, local rules, white landowning cultural supremacy.
Because guns.
I hope they continue to gather out there. And sit. And stew. And start hyperventilating about drones and infiltrators and their imaginary "creed."
Not hoping for anyone to get shot. But the longer they stay out there playing out the fantasy of an America run by ad hoc committees of rural whites in boonie hats and military surplus gear, the clearer a picture everyone will get of exactly what new / old gun religion is selling.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)In fact I'm sure many predicted such outcomes. How are people so unwilling to get along with others (who are only slightly different) beyond their group, going to get along with themselves? It's almost a mathematical certainty they will fragment into smaller and smaller groups. Goofballs.
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)I don't know why I'm friendly with him. I guess because he loves animals so much, and I've never heard him spew any racist bile. He would die for his cats, and I think anyone who can express so much love for any creature, can't be all bad. He uses disposable cardboard flats as litter boxes, and since I work in a capacity in which I can acquire them, I save them for him. The last time politics was even obliquely broach (I was simply correcting his factual inaccuracies about the ACA) , he said I wasn't even an American. "But I was born in Paducah Kentucky", I said "want to see my birth certificate?". I didn't see him for more than two weeks. He was back, however, as soon as he needed more flats, which I had continued to save. "No more politics", he said, which is to his benefit, because I can twist him into a pretzel, every time.
Timez Squarez
(262 posts)That he stops listening to Faux/hate radio and listen to something more rational before he gets those flats..
It's only fair that you are doing this for him..
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)He thinks FOX is the ONLY source for news and info. He becomes very angry at hearing opposing political views, so I usually steer clear of politics.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)deafskeptic
(463 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)"Get shot" is starting to look more and more likely. And it will likely be an accident, too. An inevitable outcome of all the gun-waving and bravado.
And I'm going to stock up on popcorn, and hope I don't choke on it while I'm laughing
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superpatriotman
(6,252 posts)There's no other explanation for that kind of false bravado and fascist behavior - it seems rehearsed.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Famously the head of "Elohim City" Timothy McVeys home base, was an informant.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)I heard that it is all a conspiracy to get the militia people all in one place so they can round them up. The kicker is that Bundy is the special FBI agent in charge of the ruse.
Swear to god. Yes, the christian one!
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Working for the Koch brothers. If they are good to camp out for a couple of weeks they are able to work. Cut their disability and charge they with fraud.
petronius
(26,603 posts)that the drone strike wasn't cancelled, it was just postponed. Word is that they've identified so many people who've been clicking on the pro-Bundy websites and FB pages that they had to prep a couple of additional 'FEMA'-camps for the round-ups that are planned to be simultaneous with the drone mission...
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Hekate
(90,793 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)spanone
(135,873 posts)socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)I would almost be willing to bet that MOST are doing the same thing.
Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)vlakitti
(401 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)the sooner they kill each other off, the better it will be for all of us.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)UTUSN
(70,740 posts)CanonRay
(14,113 posts)and just call it an asylum. Eventually, they will all kill each other.
snort
(2,334 posts)It'll be 110. Only idiots and nut cases would camp in such heat.
Maybe the end of July.
Blue Owl
(50,494 posts)n/t
Turbineguy
(37,365 posts)It might be interesting to find out who is supporting them financially.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)I think they'd prefer Coke about now.
Turbineguy
(37,365 posts)"armed insurrection" but if so, those supporting it would be dragged in too.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Then a solid week of all out all over the television good and bad, it's air time...
And no one remembers the Koches and the FNN, Rush, Beck, Oathkeeper, Teaper, Libertarian funding stories.
Mission accomplished,and the national mind forgets the Koches and the RWNJ scandals. Look, shiny!
Gman
(24,780 posts)At least all the unstable MF'ers are in one isolated place in the desert and away from everybody else.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)red lasers around, that'll get them started in a major rowel thinking the other guy is targeting them!
intaglio
(8,170 posts)And building that fence the militia goons love all the way round it
malaise
(269,157 posts)Action not a bag of mouth. Just do it!
eShirl
(18,503 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Ed Suspicious
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hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)and will disperse when the heat rises, as others have suggested.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)This needs to be repeated and as featured news.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)That said, were they to suddenly start firing and all shot each other in the balls, I'd probably throw a party.
GeorgeGist
(25,323 posts)on domestic terrorism?
Warpy
(111,339 posts)They'll start blasting away at each other and either the Feds will be called back in or the local Sheriff and whoever he can deputize will sort out the survivors and have them carted off to jail.
Hotheaded fanatics with guns + privation = violence. It happens every single time. It's why the Wild West got rid of the guns in towns in the first place.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)Iggo
(47,565 posts)Gun-fuckers are a hoot.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Summer is over. I had heard if Bundy delivers his cattle to the sale the money will be seized and applied towards his grazing fees. To continue the BLM confrontation will cost tax payer dollars. Stop the cameras and interviews. Now he has his kids running to cause trouble also. The investigative agency should ignore their request for as long as Bundy has ignored his grazing bill.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)It would be good if they all killed one another, with not one standing, on either side!
Kaleva
(36,342 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)A show about a family of survivalists building and stocking a bunker. The dude who played the head of household (yes, it was all staged and scripted) ended up here in St Pete after show was cancelled. Bought a big old house downtown, had grandiose plans for a B&B. Couldn't make payments after show was cancelled, house was repo'ed and auctioned off. Guy says hes going to start a MM dispensary now. Class A asshole, and I mean Class A.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)I think they should get busy with more doing and less threatening. Lock and load, morans.
toddwv
(2,830 posts)Do it mostly at night so they can hear the buzzing but can't see the aircraft.
Let them lose a few nights worth of sleep.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Maybe Darwin will solve this problem for us.
I hate to think of these idiots & moochers reproducing.
Kaleva
(36,342 posts)From the video:
"Nutbags in the camp running amok."
https://www.facebook.com/blaine.cooper2/posts/611396038956572?comment_id=611404088955767&offset=0&total_comments=22
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Skittles
(153,193 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Just check the comments on the Vegas news websites. It's not just paranoia: it's crazy served with an equal portion of Dumb.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)The US strategy makes sense, in that respect:
Bundies: We want to defend MURICA!
BLM: We're just trying to do our job.
Bundies: Just itchin' to shoot me a government agent!
BLM: Um...
Bundies: Gonna put the women and children up front so they get shot first on teevee!
BLM: You guys are crazy.
Bundies: You govment folk just try us!
BLM: Screw this, it's hot and we're not getting paid enough to deal with asylum escapees.
(They leave.)
Two weeks later...
Bundies: They're gonna come and attack us any day now.
Aaaaaany day now.
(tumbleweeds float by)
Aaaaaany day now.
by catwho on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 09:44:04 AM PDT [ Parent ]
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024881669#post29
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)You don't see this kind of stupid very often.
Hekate
(90,793 posts)armed_and_liberal
(246 posts)Can you imagine the froth these dumb-asses would be whipped into if you flew a flat-black radio controlled airplane over their heads? It is almost worth taking a couple days off from work to go out there to do it!
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)I would gladly send them some.
rafeh1
(385 posts)Last edited Sun May 4, 2014, 12:19 PM - Edit history (2)
And wait a few hours for the fireworks to start. It should cost under a $500
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)And the folks there at Bunkerville are truly morons.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)But I just can't keep a secret. Me and Snowden, you know. We're tight. But our lips aren't sealed. There is an actual drone strike planned. I won't say when, exactly.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,505 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)mikeysnot
(4,757 posts)fucks ended this shit by circular firing squad...
a few less assholes in the world.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)think that they're the "good guys with guns."