If Zimmerman Was Treated On The Scene For Injuries Wouldn't There Be An EMT Report?......

[global1]

Seems to me the EMT's that came to the scene to treat Zimmerman and perhaps move Martin's body would have had to file some report of their actions. Has this report turned up?

[slackmaster]

1. Don't expect to see it until the grand jury is done with it

Patience.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

24. The State Attorney is sitting on it

along with almost all of the probative evidence

[Ganja Ninja]

2. Somebody would be getting a bill that's for sure.

You can bet they wouldn't forget to fill out one of those.

[slackmaster]

4. No shit!

[Ecumenist]

3. I wouldn't be suprised to find that it was cursory at best. HE HAS NO BLOOD ANYWHERE!!

His story is that Trayvon was on top of him whipping his @ss and he shot him. How is it that there's NOT.ONE.IOTA.OF.BLOOD.ON.HIM.ANYWHERE? His shirt is a light color; IT WOULD be apparent.

[Life Long Dem]

6. The spotless shirt is what I can't figure out.

Cops don't clean people up when arrested.

[librechik]

27. one officer reported he had a bloody shirt

..." What is known is that these officials visited the crime scene and then told police to release Zimmerman without taking any pictures of the alleged broken nose or cut head, without getting blood samples from the bloody t-shirt at least one officer alleges he saw, without even performing the most basic investigative procedures. "

http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/did-trayvon-martins-killer-walk-out-jail-co

[CAPHAVOC]

10. On CNN they just had a sound track of Zimmermans Father.

I do not like to speculate but I will. To illustrate why I never trust media reports. He said Zimmerman reached in his pocket for his phone and then Trevan punched him.
If this is true it could be that even though Zimmermans gun was concealed. Trevan could have thought he was going for a gun. If so it seems reasonable to me that Trevan would punch him in the nose and pin him down to prevent him from getting his gun. That is speculation and you would have to believe Zimmermans father. Just a theory. This is what the new prosecutors are having to sort out. Separating theory from provable facts. Using real evidence. Not easy.

[zbdent]

5. they handed the report to the witnesses who said that they saw TM attack GZ

and threaten to kill GZ ...

[lunasun]

7. Perhaps they are finishing that EMT report right now????

[polly7]

8. Yes, there would be a PCR.

At least that's what we call them here - a Pre-Hospital Care Report.

[onehandle]

9. Not if the NRA paid to make it disappear. nt

[auburngrad82]

11. I love Zimmerman's lawyer's story

Zimmerman probably needed stitches but they waited too long and the wounds had already started healing themselves.

He must have some super healing powers.

[Cali_Democrat]

13. Reminds me of the movie Species

That woman could heal from serious injuries in a matter of minutes. The thing is, she was half extraterrestrial.

[Blue_Roses]

14. Did he really say that?

What a stupid thing to say. His lawyer either is a moron or could care less about his client.

[orwell]

12. There would be a full report filed within 24 hours...

...at least that is the procedure with the EMT's I have worked with in California.

[Arctic Dave]

15. Yes there would be.

Also, no EMTwould show up to a scene without BSI (Body Substance Isolation) on when blood is present.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

16. The state attorney has it

Along with all the other probative evidence they are sitting on

[Evasporque]

17. there were no injuries....if there were the cops would of taken photos and released them already....

The injuries is a bullshit story cover up....

[ProgressiveProfessor]

28. The State Attorney is sitting on a pile of evidence and not released it

Until this video came out, we had no empirical data about what injuries Zimmerman might have had. We don't know if pictures were taken or not, what the EMS or autopsy report says, what forensics test were done...we just don't know.

Regardless, he sure looked uninjured and clean for a guy who was being beaten not all that long before the video was taken

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. There would be one

And since zimmy refused care, per his words, also an against medical advise.

[Cali_Democrat]

19. If he refused care..

would that mean there's no official documentation of his injuries?

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. Oh there is documentation

If an AMA was filed medics were particularly careful, to protect themselves from lawsuit.

[Travelman]

22. He didn't refuse care

He refused transport to the hospital. He received care on the scene (at least according to the police report).

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. And according to the Sentinel

They wanted to transport.

That means AMA.

[HereSince1628]

33. The police report says he was transported to SPD after clearance from SFD but

the part that confuses me is that an account I read about the video said he apparently he arrived at the SPD -4- hours after the incident.

What is with that? He clearly didn't have injuries that took hours of first aid.

Why would they keep a shooter at the scene for hours before taking him to the station for his statement?

The timeline seems odd to me.

[Travelman]

21. HIPAA

Whatever medical records the EMTs have, whatever reports they have with relation to any injuries, illnesses, or treatments of Zimmerman, even if they only gave him a band-aid, are protected under HIPAA. If they go out and start broadcasting that information, they violate some pretty serious federal law.

AFAIK, that report can't even be used in court unless either Zimmerman either signs a release or a judge issues a subpoena for the records.

[pinboy3niner]

25. The records can be subpoena'd in a criminal prosecution

The HIPAA protections only go so far. They do have exceptions.

[JDPriestly]

26. Yes. But Zimmerman may have a right to privacy with regard to medical records.

[cynatnite]

30. There are exceptions to that...

Worker's comp cases and criminal investigations. If releases are not required, it'd be easy enough to subpoena.

[JDPriestly]

31. The police should have the records, and the defense may be able to subpoena

them, but the press????

[cynatnite]

29. Yep, there'd be a report...

It would become part of the investigation.

[DearAbby]

32. I would expect to see his nostrils filled with gauze

and a bandage on his head. Any of you remember when Geraldo was punched in the nose and the packing of gauze and tape over his nose, immediate bruising of the eyes. he looked like he was punched in the face by a mule.


I have never had my nose broken, I have had a few episodes of nose bleeds, and had shoved what tissue I could up my nose to stop the flow.

[kudzu22]

34. There may be but it's illegal to release Protected Health Information

And if anyone on here had the report and posted any part of it, they'd be in violation of Federal Law. HIPAA is no joke and they are quite serious about keeping health info confidential. They can't even reveal that he was treated or not.

So, don't let the fact that you haven't seen it lead you to believe it doesn't exist.

[w8liftinglady]

35. Just to remind everyone... There WAS a fatal gunshot wound at the scene

therefore,there were a LOT of emergency staff there.i talked to my friend,a cop for over 30 years.He said"no way in hell I would have touched a guy at the scene,except to stop bleeding"...Either the man would be seen at the jail admitting center by a nurse practitioner and forensic officer,at which time samples would be taken and xrays done.If they didn't have that access,the officers would have taken the prisoner to the emergency room,along with forensic instructions.We are talking a fatality.There are a few officers involved in an investigation...especially the murder of a minor.