Senate Agrees: US People Can't Know Overseas Drone Death Toll

[JEB]

Published on Tuesday, April 29, 2014 by Common Dreams
Senate Agrees: US People Can't Know Overseas Drone Death Toll
At behest of intelligence chief, Senate removes "modest" provision that would reveal number of people killed by US attacks overseas
- Jon Queally, staff writer

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2014/04/29

Seems to me that Clapper the liar and Senate are trying to hide high crimes.

[Thinkingabout]

1. High crimes?

[JEB]

2. Ok maybe low down dirty crimes.

Like the right wingers used to say, "If you've got nothing to hide....blah blah blah Freedom isn't free". You and I both know that the truth about how many we are killing with our drones will eventually come out. Oh the breathtaking transparency, not.

[Boreal]

4. Murdering people in undeclared wars? nt

[2naSalit]

3. Highly likely

that we can probably guess how many...

[Obnoxious_One]

5. An whistleblowers will be harshly punished.

Unless of course the go through 'proper channels' in which case you'll never hear from them again and the criminal status quo will continue.

[Supersedeas]

14. change we can believe in

[blkmusclmachine]

6. If the Gov isn't doing anything wrong, it's got nothing to hide...

It's the fascism, bay-bee.

[Nanjing to Seoul]

8. that idea only applies to little people when the police are involved

the rich, powerful and important have a different set of rules.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

7. I should like to be able to love my country and still love justice. Albert Camus

[DeSwiss]

9. INGSOC approves.

- I'm sure that if the Obama Administration thought the number of people he's killing in our name was something that we needed to know, he'd let us know. Especially if it's somebody who's important. Like Osama was.



K&R

''Furthermore, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and public health experts do not recommend that people in the United States take precautionary measures beyond staying informed. And going forward, we will continue to keep the American people fully updated — because I believe that you must know what I know as President.'' - President Barack Obama, March 17, 2011 link

It's become a fucking joke now.......

[Unknown Beatle]

10. Murdering people with

our tax dollars and yet we're not supposed to know? Bullshit! It's painfully obvious that we the little people aren't controlling the government, the government is trying to control us. Witness Occupy.

[FuzzyRabbit]

11. We can't know, but the people being droned know. Deja vu for me.

I remember one evening decades ago during the Vietnam war, listening to President Nixon giving a speech wherein he said that the US was not bombing Laos.

My next door neighbor, on leave from the Air Force, expressed surprise at what Nixon said. I asked him about it and he told me that his job was to score B-52 bombing raids. The last few days on duty, he was scoring raids over Laos. Nixon was lying.

I then said, well the Laotians and Vietnamese know we are bombing Laos. The enemy knows. But the American people are not supposed to know? It doesn't make any sense. What was our government trying to hide from us?

And so here we are again. The people we are bombing know how many are being killed. They know how many are children and innocent civilians. But our government does not want us, its citizens, to know.

What is the government trying to hide from us? That they are wantonly murdering civilian adults and children? What else could it be?

I remember when I was a kid, the US was the good guys. We helped save the world. But now we are the bad guys, murdering innocents with our drones. The drone operators call their victims "bug splats". Are they killing people just for the fun of it? Is it just a video game to them? Why else would they call their victims a humorous name?

[GoneFishin]

15. Why are there 80+ completely innocent people in Guantanamo who are cleared by the

legal system for release.

On the surface both of these injustices are asinine and pointless. However if you are part of the 1% who makes billions from perpetual war, these are both great ways to incite hatred from brown people overseas, and create a needed enemy where one scarcely existed.

[Dragonfli]

12. The problem with their idea of "if you don't count them, they won't count"

Is it is impossible for them to stop international organizations from keeping tabs on their shall we say, "less than honorable" practices of terrorizing entire regions of people most of whom are NOT terrorists. The deaths are observed, there are attempts to count them, and otherwise peaceful villagers are being driven insane with rage creating far more of a threat than the odd terrorist killed amongst the crowds of people being terrorized.

One can't avoid the consequences of one's actions by simply refusing to admit to them.

[JoeyT]

13. Well of course not.

It would make it too hard on the supporters to lie about the number of innocents murdered if they had to tell us all the people killed. And once you've taken away their ability to lie, their only recourse is to scream Bushisms or Rushisms, because everyone that doesn't support drone strikes hates America, the troops, baseball, and apple pie, and is probably a terrorist sympathizer.

[bobduca]

16. K&R

Nobody on my vast ignore list has replied to this thread! I'm shocked!!!

[Skip Intro]

17. everything's like a drug commercial

constant misdirection and smiling bs, with compelling pastel icons

why would we ever need real information and like, think?