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Why is the Solicitor General arguing in favor of warrantless cell phone data siezure? (Original Post) Earth_First Apr 2014 OP
Even if you don't *understand* it, surely be now you *expect* it? villager Apr 2014 #1
This Should Be A Featured Story Here billhicks76 Apr 2014 #7
What's hilarious is that rightwing spam-bots on sites like this will flail with the "alert" button villager Apr 2014 #8
STRATFOR? Boreal Apr 2014 #11
They are in power. AngryAmish Apr 2014 #2
I can. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #3
The system defends itself, not the people. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #4
No respect for our privacy. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #5
Their whole politics is a sickness. That's why this country won't make it intact... villager Apr 2014 #9
This so so extraordinarily frightening n/t etherealtruth Apr 2014 #6
Because that's his job nowadays. alarimer Apr 2014 #10
They've invested billions in these programs. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #12
Every day. Every single day. woo me with science Apr 2014 #13
Privacy is dead marshall Apr 2014 #14
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
1. Even if you don't *understand* it, surely be now you *expect* it?
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 06:03 PM
Apr 2014

Has this administration ever showed us anything else?

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
7. This Should Be A Featured Story Here
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 06:41 PM
Apr 2014

Any NSA defenders are usually paid for managed sock-puppet profiles like those managed by STRATFOR. They can have thousands if comments to their name because it's a job, one person manages up to 100 profiles a day and if they get demoted it promoted the next person takes over the cache. New York Times and New Yorker exposed this practice and HuffPost had a community moderator get caught censoring entire 911 and IraqWar threads.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
8. What's hilarious is that rightwing spam-bots on sites like this will flail with the "alert" button
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 08:03 PM
Apr 2014

...and huff & puff outrage whenever they're called out thusly.

Another of their techniques, I guess.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
3. I can.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 06:06 PM
Apr 2014

and it has none to do with democracy or freedom. If I were to be kind, it is the same reason they argued for pager data over a decade ago. (Yes that was during the Clinton Administration)

I should remind you that Echelon was exposed during the Clinton Administration.

This is where there is little light between the two parties.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
4. The system defends itself, not the people.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 06:16 PM
Apr 2014

And if you think it's bad now wait until the next GOP authoritarian is in office.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
5. No respect for our privacy.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 06:25 PM
Apr 2014

What is their reasoning? That creeps can listen in on our calls if they want to?

The NSA is so creepy, a bunch of sick, peeping Toms. Honestly.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
9. Their whole politics is a sickness. That's why this country won't make it intact...
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 08:05 PM
Apr 2014

...through this century.

The rot will eventually, finally, take its toll.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
13. Every day. Every single day.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 08:55 AM
Apr 2014

The only reason anybody expresses shock is because we have been trained by incessant propaganda to feign willful partisan delusion.

We are relentlessly betrayed by our corporate owners and their purchased politicians. They. Do. Not. Work. For. Us.

marshall

(6,665 posts)
14. Privacy is dead
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 09:20 AM
Apr 2014

Or perhaps it is evolving. Whether you're a billionaire like Sterling or a poor emigrant with a cheap disposable cell phone, your privacy is no a protected right anymore.

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