If the 2016 election is Bush/Clinton

[DonCoquixote]

Standard Disclaimer: If Hillary wins the primary and becomes the Democrat's nominee, I will vote for her. The experiment with third parties in 2000 was a disaster that is still oozing blood from our sides, and I know we cannot allow ANY GOP to have the White House again, even if the right wing sings hymns of hate for Bush.

However, let's go ahead and see what a Bush/Clinton election really means:

For one, it is nostalgia, which is the sign of someone looking back to a time that never was, in the hopes of filling an empty present and dead future. We will be saying, to the whole world, that America cannot and will not come up with any new ideas. Yes,Hillary would be female, and Obama was a black man, yet we know that they will both be "friends" with the John McCains that will call for their execution five minutes after eating Lobster with them.

Neither Jeb nor Hillary threaten the power structure, indeed, both of them will spend half their time showing "I am not realty like those people in my party, I am a centrist uniter!" Indeed, as much as I love the idea of the moonbats fighting the bushes, I know that none are fighting for a return even to the FDR days, but that both will brag about how many hippies they can punch.

For two: Neither is against war. The minute the Zionists get themselves in hot water again, both will offer to send all the aid they can, because it is America's job to support Israel. I have no love for the other side of Jerusalem, but as long as Israel knows they can always demand help, we will be on war footing.

Three: neither of them love social spending. Bill Clinton got his fame as the person that seemed to hate welfare spending as much as the GOP did. If Hillary is different, she can show it, but she does NOT. Both of them love "education reform" which is bullshit speak for "hate teachers." Both love to demonize leftist figures.

Four: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/wall-street-republicans-hillary-clinton-2016-106070.html

translated...wall street know it has nothing to fear from democracy.

[quinnox]

1. Nightmare scenario

[1000words]

2. Meh ...

The sooner we bottom out, the better.

[DonCoquixote]

10. gambling with lives, are we?

You may handle a bottom out, but those who would get hit the hardest are often the people that suffered under the present system, while the Hillary Clintons of the world will still eat steak and lobster.

[1000words]

12. Hardly.

Even if I were invited to the game, I can't afford the ante.

[AZ Mike]

3. The real question:

Which candidate could run on his/her predecessor's record?

Jeb would be dumb to run.

W fucked that option to Hell.

Would Jeb defend or disavow his brother's presidency? Clearly he would defend it and he would be run out of the country for it.

Would Hilary defend our disavow her husband's presidency? Clearly she could affirmatively and forcefully run on the Big Dog's record and she would be embraced for that.

I'm thinking a Clinton-Bush matchup would be slightly less of a drubbing than Clinton-Paul or Clinton-Cruz. Clinton-Romney would be closer but it would be a bigger spread than 08.

Just my opinion.

[mwyn8]

4. In the primaries of 2008

I voted Obama. To me Clinton was 'Washington as usual' & I wanted change. I would be excited to see Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders run. Clinton??? My opinion hasn't changed.
Sanders is saying he may run, but if he runs as an independent there goes that 3 way split. I'd vote Sanders.

ps- luv this part you wrote 'someone looking back to a time that never was, in the hopes of filling an empty present and dead future.'

[newfie11]

9. I agree with you

Sanders will get my vote if he runs.

[davidn3600]

5. Wall Street will celebrate if it's Bush vs Clinton

Either way they win.

[defacto7]

6. "wall street knows it has nothing to fear from democracy."

True. Especially since we don't have one.

[Ichingcarpenter]

7. Both Win Trips to Kennebunkport

and a boat ride!!


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[dionysus]

8. i was once visiting my home town in maine... driving back to the folks house, had to pee realllllly

bad.. 5 min from home, oh what's this, troopers have everyone pulled over on both sides of the road, WTF?

fucking dipshit * decided to spend the weekend in Kennebunkport and they had the whole road cleared from our tiny little airport all the way there...

after sitting there for what felt like forever trying not to piss myself, a convoy of 12 or so black SUVs, one of them carrying dipshit inside, blow down the middle of the road at very high speed.

I was not impressed.

[mylye2222]

11. The best scenario for a political disaster.....

Choosing between pest and cholera.......Hope it will never happen!!!!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

13. Fortunately, my ballot usually comes with more than 2 choices and has a write in line.

[DonCoquixote]

14. which means that vote

is a waste of paper, as failure to choose one is to choose the other, every bit as much as if you spent the whole year fundraising for Jeb Bush.

Until such time as a third party gets congress, senators and governors, third party victory in the Oval Office as is impossible as the law of gravity being repealed. Go ahead and tell yourself I am wrong, but do not be surprised if you get encouraged by many of the same "leftists" that come one November day in Florida whipped their masks off and bragged about how useful a patsy Nader was, and how the money they sent him was the best money they ever spent.