Elizabeth Warren: I hope Hillary Clinton runs for president

[Cali_Democrat]

She also admits to signing the declaration urging Hillary to run:

By Wesley Lowery
April 27 at 11:56 am

Sen. Elizabeth Warren says she hopes Hillary Rodham Clinton runs for president in 2016 — the latest in a series of declarations of support by the Massachusetts Democrat, who some have speculated could seek the Oval Office herself.

"All all of the women — Democratic women I should say — of the Senate urged Hillary Clinton to run, and I hope she does. Hillary is terrific," Warren said during an interview broadcast Sunday on ABC's "This Week," noting that she was one of several senators to sign a letter urging Clinton to run in 2016.

Warren is a favorite among many liberal Democrats, and the release of her new book, "A Fighting Chance," has stoked speculation that she may consider a presidential run in 2016. Warren has repeatedly insisted she will not run for president.

"I'm not running for president. I'm not running for president. I'm not running for president." Warren said in a series of video clips shown prior to the interview.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/04/27/elizabeth-warren-i-hope-hillary-clinton-runs-for-president/

This makes sense. Warren is a liberal Dem and liberal Dems suupport Hillary by HUGE margins. It's actually moderate and conservative Dems that aren't as supportive of Hillary:

Pew Research: "an overwhelming share of liberals (87%) want to see Hillary Clinton run"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024861256

[99Forever]

1. Here we go again.

[Cali_Democrat]

2. Warren said this earlier today on ABC's "This Week" nt

[krawhitham]

5. And when asked if she would support a Clinton presidential candidacy

Did she say yes?

[JI7]

7. she said she hopes she runs

[99Forever]

11. Whatever.

One trick ponies are boring.

[JI7]

12. i agree

[Bobbie Jo]

16. +1

Indeed.

[JI7]

18. .

[SidDithers]

21. Well done...

Sid

[WillyT]

52. Here's What Elizabeth Warren Actually Said:

DULink: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024878984

[2pooped2pop]

76. my reaction too

[SidDithers]

3. Yeah, but those are just her words...

and she probably doesn't mean what everyone thinks she means.

Or something.

Sid

[ChisolmTrailDem]

17. Did you say something...

...or something?

[Jamaal510]

53. +1

[JI7]

4. there is nothing wrong with wanting Warren to run for PRes

my problem is that some of them do not actually support her but they are using her to try to divide and create false conflicts where none exists.

[LuvLoogie]

6. Of course she does.

Warren used to be a Republican, too.

[11 Bravo]

10. And now she's DEAD to you, right?

[LuvLoogie]

36. I'm confused. My bad.

I must have used the wrong DU litmus test. Is this an I hate Hillary discussion or an I love Elizabeth discussion?

[11 Bravo]

90. You ARE confused. Far from being mutually exclusive, the two are one and the same.

Or at least of late they have been.

[LuvLoogie]

100. So I guess I'll support

the Goldwater Girl over the Reagan/Bushie who isn't running.

[pscot]

8. I want to see Hillary run

and get beaten in the primaries by E. Warren.

[anti partisan]

9. This is why the rallying cry needs to be "Progressivism for President"

If that means Warren, so be it. But attaching all our hopes to one human being may end up getting a neocon-lite (Hillary Goldman-Sachs Clinton) into power. I like Warren fine, and Sanders as well. But there is no Messiah in Washington right now.

[Jackpine Radical]

33. I fly the Warren banner as a sort of shorthand for exactly that.

I'd be happy with ANY truly Progressive President. Could be Feingold or DeBlasio, for all of me. Unfortunately, neither of them is likely to run, or to win if they did run. I fear the same is true of Bernie. He may enter the primaries, though, just to widen the Overton Window a bit.

[anti partisan]

38. I understand

And I would too, if I didn't see a potentially ugly situation in the future, where you've got a bunch of Warren supporters who get lost when she doesn't run, or even worse yet if she supports Hillary.

A lot of people here seem to be afraid of appearing confrontational so they go with the more positive "Warren 2016" rather than "Reject Hillary and all corporatist Dems!" but I'll stick with the latter cause it is essential that we do NOT get Hillary, or Cuomo, or others who care about the people no more than the Republicans do, except for when they are grandstanding to win votes.

And I dare say that I'm more than a bit afraid that Warren has some hawkish leanings on topics of national security and foreign policy.

[winter is coming]

14. I love the smell of fear in the morning. n/t

[LWolf]

15. And I hope she doesn't.

I'm not interested in an economic liberal, and I know the difference.

[tularetom]

19. 87% of "liberals", want to see Hillary run, huh?

Sure, if you call everybody who doesn't advocate the violent overthrow of the government a "liberal".

She'd probably be elected because the republicans are almost certain to nominate somebody even worse than her.

[Cali_Democrat]

20. Why would Warren urge her to run then? Why does Warren think she's terrific? nt

[Cha]

23. They evidently don't believe her. how strange for someone

who speaks the truth.. and now she's lying?

[Cali_Democrat]

24. It's one of the strangest things I've seen on DU since I've been here.

Warren's biggest supporters are essentially calling her a dissembling politician and a liar.

Some folks just can't get over the fact that there is no feud. Obama, Warren and Hillary ALL have huge support among liberal Dems and the polls back that up.

Some people just can't seem to deal with reality.

[Cha]

25. Yeah it seems like they'd love a big feud between

Obama, Warren, and Hillary. These leaders are smarter than that.. they're capable of seeing the bigger picture.. as it were.

[Mojorabbit]

50. Surely she can support Hillary's run as a woman

And still not support all of her views. She can support her run as a member of senate women and still not think she would be a great president. Or she can think that. We don't know. I really don't personally look to anyone but myself in deciding who I support so her endorsement or not of Hillary is moot.

[VanillaRhapsody]

63. WOW......Elizabeth Warren can and you are saying you expect her to do that....

but many DUer's cannot seem to do the same as you are describing here that Elizabeth Warren is perfectly capable of doing....guess Ms Warren is more of a realist huh?

[VanillaRhapsody]

62. It's the old Idealists vs Realists....

They really think someone "magical" will come along become President and can fix EVERYTHING immediately! Damn the facts of the situation.....

[treestar]

79. +1

Obama could do a lot more with a D Congress from 2014 yet they ignore that for their next Presidential Messiah, and all without considering the Congress elected in 2016, too.

[VanillaRhapsody]

89. Yep.....the reality on the ground doesn't matter AT ALL!

No matter who it is....they will NEVER be good enough for them....

[Control-Z]

61. I kind of think, maybe,

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they think it will play out like it did with President Obama when at first he said he wasn't running. And then he did and ran away with it.

First of all, I believe that was a once in a lifetime thing. The other thing, I don't get how, with that line of thinking, they would expect Warren to fare any better with republicans than Obama has. Or be able to fulfill every campaign promise in the first 6 months.

A woman with zero foreign affairs experience, and very little political experience overall, would get chewed up and spit out just as easily, if not more so, by the Republicans. And the the only thing they would probably hate more than a black man in the highest office in the land would be a woman - of any race.

[JDPriestly]

70. If you wonder how Warren could fare any better with Republicans than Obama, might be a good

idea to read her book, "A Fighting Chance." Should answer your question.

Elizabeth Warren is a real person. Sewed her clothes in college. Loves her husband. Loved teaching law. She's really genuine. She's really a great person. I know lots of Democrats are looking for someone real, like Elizabeth Warren, and I think lots of Republicans are too.

Elizabeth Warren understands the major preoccupations and worries of Americans: making ends meet, getting or keeping a job and moving ahead in life: buying a house and paying for it, getting an education, educating their children, taking care of their families. She's done it all. She is a fighter. That's what Americans, Republicans and Democrats want.

[treestar]

80. wow a new Messiah

FFS. Obama has a family too. He loves his wife and kids. For crying out loud. He taught law. He's genuine. This is bullshit of the highest order.

[LuvLoogie]

43. And how many have actually PAID their premiums?!

oh uh wait a minute...Where am I?

[Auntie Bush]

94. I don't think they polled any DUers.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

22. I hope she runs and gets deservedly thrashed in the primaries by Bernie Sanders.

[RandySF]

27. That won't happen.

The party is behind Hillary.

[Beacool]

29. That's a fantasy that will never happen.

How about proposing someone actually viable?

[Autumn]

26. Bernie has said he will run. So it's all good.

[Beacool]

31. He has as much of a chance as I do of becoming the nominee.

[Autumn]

34. As long as he runs. Hillary will win if she runs,

no doubt about it.

[WillyT]

28. So The Question Becomes... Do We Support Hillary Because She Can Win... Becuase Of What She...

Stands For... Or Because It's Her Turn ???

BTW... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/27/elizabeth-warren-wall-street_n_5222232.html

[LuvLoogie]

41. Because she's the best candidate.

[WillyT]

48. Ya Know... That Could Be Determined... In A Primary Debate...

[madville]

30. Warren is opportunistic

She is very good at molding herself into what suites the moment. She is constantly transforming, from a Republican so apparently now a corporate Democrat.

[WillyT]

56. Links Please... WTF ???

[JDPriestly]

71. Read her book and then decide if you still think that.

[madville]

74. How much is her book deal worth?

I would say whatever my fan club wanted to hear for the right price.

[Beacool]

32. I fervently hope that Hillary runs for president,

but if she chooses not to do so I will respect her decision. I wish that the Liz Warren supporters would do the same. Other than hiring a plane and writing it in the sky, she has said repeatedly that she's NOT interested in running for president. How about respecting her enough to give her a break and believe what she keeps saying over and over?

[L0oniX]

35. "moderate and conservative Dems that aren't as supportive of Hillary" BULLSHIT!

...and IMO you are trying to stir up shit. This is nothing but pure flame bait.

[Cali_Democrat]

37. So...

...creating an OP on Democratic underground highlighting the fact that a prominent Democratic politician has urged another prominent Democratic politician to run for president is flame bait.

Got it...

[anti partisan]

42. I don't really know what your purpose is...

But if it's to get us to potentially support Hillary on the basis that we like Warren, it sure as hell isn't going to work.

We like Warren because she has been what Hillary is not - an advocate for the 99% over the 1%.

Regardless of who Warren tells me to support, I am NEVER supporting property of Goldman Sachs. And if she tells me to support Hillary, I will simply look at her as a fraud and continue to oppose the nomination of Hillary.

I get it. You're a Hillary supporter, but this is not how you win support for your candidate. And I can't exactly tell you how you will when your candidate is a tool of the corporate elite.

[Cali_Democrat]

44. Let me tell you my purpose

To highlight the fact that liberals like Obama, Warren, and Hillary. Warren confirms this by saying Hillary is terrific and urging her to run.

The notion that the is an internal feud within the party is bullshit.

[anti partisan]

45. My friend, if that is who "liberals" like then I'm not a "liberal"

[Cali_Democrat]

46. Warren herself said Hillary is terrific and hopes she runs for President.

Is Warren not a liberal?

[anti partisan]

47. Maybe not

She certainly loses more than a few points of credibility for making such a comment.

And even if she is a true blue liberal, I sure ain't following her off a cliff.

[winter is coming]

49. The notion that Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Warren are all liberals is laughable.

Obama and Hillary are neoliberals, at best. Warren's economic policies are populist/progressive. There is a divide within the Democratic party, but I wouldn't call it a "feud" as feuds are characterized by personal animus. This isn't a personality thing, it's a policy thing.

That you repeatedly try to crowd Hillary into the same boxes as Warren is a strong hint that you're aware that she's not doing well on the economic policy forefront. Warren's populist positions are in ascendance, and it's unlikely that Hillary will be able to credibly adopt that message. If Hillary hopes to overcome that handicap, she's going to have to do better than, "well, a bunch of people (including Warren) want me to run" or "lots of liberals like me". Both of those are bandwagon-effect appeals, and probably not very effective with someone who's already tuned into "the game is rigged".

[Cali_Democrat]

55. You misread my post

I didn't say Obama, Warren and Hillary are liberals. I said that liberals like them.

This is according to polling.

You really should try to read more carefully before you try to fit so many words into a single post.

LOL.

[winter is coming]

57. Nice sidestep. n/t

[anti partisan]

58. The majority of people who self-identify as liberals like them. SO WHAT???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

[JDPriestly]

72. Thank you. It's not just me. Many, many, many Americans are tired of the corporations are people

in fact they are better than people -- super-people idea that people like Hillary seem to support. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are clearly not among the people who think like that. They value humans.

[treestar]

83. You don't get to decide that for yourself

and label the rest of the world. You have to look around you and see where most other people are. It's as silly as the right wing. They do the same thing. Claim everyone is really, really conservative and label the same people - Obama, Hillary - as socialists or communists.

[winter is coming]

86. Actually, I do get to decide for myself, but thanks for playing. n/t

[L0oniX]

97. Delusion can be fun to watch.

[L0oniX]

96. "liberals like *, *, and Hillary" OMG FFS LOL

[treestar]

82. Hillary is an advocate for the 99%

How do you claim she is not? Because she does not think that destruction of all big banks is going to help the 99%?

[Skip Intro]

73. Cali_Democrat's like, "Stirring up shit? Who? Me?" ROFL!

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You know, CD, people can see what you post.

[treestar]

81. Exactly, that's what I was thinking

To get upset over the OP and call it flame bait is very odd for a Democrat.

[L0oniX]

91. Enjoy your Wallstreet candidate.

[rhett o rick]

39. Havent you already posted this three times?

The funny thing here is that if H. Clinton-Goldman-Sachs-O-Money happens to lose. who will get blamed? If Pew says the liberals favor her then dont blame us when she loses.

The American people want change. They dont see Clinton as offering anything more than more of the same. Goldman-Sachs has already made their claim. She is Wall Street all the way.

H. Clinton voted to give Bush carte-blanc to invade Iraq. She has blood on her hands. We knew the neocons wanted war, war, war. But we hoped that the more sane Democrats would at least put up a fight. But ah contraire, Ms. Clinton bowed down to Bush the Boy King and authorized him to wage war and destroy an innocent sovereign nation and destroy our middle class with debt. But she dont care she is wealthy. She is a proud member of the .01%.

[Bobbie Jo]

84. So says the "American people?"

I think you took a step too far there, that is unless you've been appointed official spokesman recently?

The American people want change. They dont see Clinton as offering anything more than more of the same.

Official OP counter, well that's another matter entirely.

[rhett o rick]

88. Your response discusses me and not the issue. Do you think H. Clinton will

bring Wall Street under control?

[Bobbie Jo]

92. My response discusses your presumptive post.

Period.

[Agnosticsherbet]

40. At some point people may trust Warren enough to believe her when she speaks.

But this is not that day.

I believe the Senator.

[MannyGoldstein]

51. Hillary also said - repeatedly - that she'd ruled out running in 2016

Thoughts?

[brooklynite]

66. Tell us who Hillary has encouraged to run for President in her stead?

[joshcryer]

67. She said she'll decide by the end of this year.

Thoughts?

[Thinkingabout]

54. There are very capable potential candidates available to Democrats, out of

The capable Democrats there will not be a candidate who meets all of our expectations. Sean and Rush trashed Hillary in 2008, we nominated Obama and they later wished Hillary was the nominee, there will be a DNC nominee, I plan to be behind the nominee but we sure do not need a rerun on a primary like the Gop had in 2012. They need to lay out a viable platform and run on it. To continue to rehash what happened ten years ago is not smart. We know what Bush did, you can't change what happened ten years ago but we can have a really good year in 2014, 2015 and 2016.

[bvar22]

59. Hillary was the only candidate in 2008 that was MORE conservative than Obama,

and Obama says that policy-wise,
he would have been considered a Moderate Republican in the 80s.

In the 80s, I FOUGHT against Moderate Republicans because I disagreed with Moderate Republican Policy.
Why should I vote FOR it today?

[Cali_Democrat]

60. I assume your question is directed toward Warren who hopes Hillary runs

and says she's terrific.

[anti partisan]

65. Regardless of what Warren says

We are not going to flock over to a Goldman Sachs candidate. Period.

We are able to think for ourselves. We don't need someone whispering in our ear.

[OilemFirchen]

69. You got a mouse in your pocket?

We have no text.

[brooklynite]

64. I remember when some people (who will remain nameless) claimed the Senate letter was made up...

Of course some people also don't trust the "Corporate" media, so maybe they made up THIS story as well.

[JDPriestly]

68. Wait until people have read Elizabeth Warren's book. The chemistry in this country will change.

I started it today. It's great. Even better than I expected.

[morningfog]

75. Hillary has been running for President 2016 since August of 2008.

Would much prefer a someone else, but it's her turn, so what are you going to do?

[vi5]

77. I'm not quite sure what the point of all these threads are.

I don't like Hillary (as a politician/political figure).

That has nothing to do with Elizabeth Warren (who I do like).

I disliked Hillary (politically) before I even knew Elizabeth Warrens name.

I know plenty of people who I like, love, and respect greatly who really do like Hillary.

None of them have changed my mind as of yet on her. I'm not sure why I'm expected to change my mind because someone who I have never even met, and who more than anything I simply respect them politically, supports Hillary.

This is grade school playground bullshit at best.

I support positions and ideas, not political idols.

[treestar]

78. Elizabeth Warren says she is not running which means she is running

Which would make her a liar. She's also obviously a corporatist third way troll or she wouldn't say good things about Hillary.

[freshwest]

93. Yeah! I just learned that reading this thread. Whew, now I don't have to care about anything... n/t

[djean111]

85. This ridiculous shot at getting people who like Warren to like Hillary just because Warren says

this or that is getting pretty funny. Always a failure, but amusing.
I do not like Clinton's policies. TPP, etc. How can anything Warren says negate that? Can't.
The only time I hear about Warren supporters trying to start a feud - is when Hillary supporters say it.
This is NOT about personalities. This is about policies. What is so fucking hard to understand about that?
And, like someone said up-thread, I am not going to follow Warren off a cliff - if she endorses Hillary. Her endorsement of Hillary means squat when it comes to me being enthusiastic about endorsing Hillary's policies by endorsing Hillary.

Maybe some here are like Beliebers, and think others are too, I dunno.

We have the internet now, you know. We support candidates for more reasons than shiny brochures and snappy campaign posters and ads and slogans. We look at what they have done, what they are doing, what they stand for.
All the polls in the world won't change that.
As a matter of fact, if the polls show such massive liberal support for Hillary, why all the "Elizabeth says" stuff? Is there some sort of directive to get everyone at DU in lockstep?

Almost seems like a purity test now - Must Love Hillary!!!!!!.....

[Laelth]

87. k&r for Elizabeth Warren.

That said, if you actually think liberal Democrats would prefer Hillary over a more liberal candidate ...

[font size=5 color=blue]you don't know many liberal Democrats.[/font]



-Laelth

[Cali_Democrat]

95. The post isn't about liberal voters preferring a Presidential candidate

Again, you seem to be confused like so many in this thread.

This post is about Warren's praise for Hillary as well as the fact that Hillary has support for running. That doesn't necessarily mean they will vote for her if she runs.

[L0oniX]

98. Please stop trying to stop the relabeling.

[Laelth]

99. Indeed. I can be obnoxious like that.

Raining on people's parades and such. It's a character flaw.



-Laelth

[KamaAina]

101. KamaAina: I hope Dems pay attention to the midterms this fall

[chrisstopher]

102. I' m a moderate Dem

And I support Hillary.