Dear Cliven, there is almost exactly the same number of Caucasians on welfare as African-Americans

[Quixote1818]

You racist, ass hat, bastard piece of shit!

This fucking racist perception that it's only African-Americans on welfare just chaps my hide! It's so fucking full of racist shit I feel like screaming! Here are the actual stats!


Snip> The margin between Caucasians and African-Americans who are on welfare is extremely narrow — 38.8 percent of Caucasians, and 39.8 percent of African-Americans are on welfare.

Link: http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2013/07/02/poverty-in-america-myths-about-welfare-recipients/

Just had to get that off my chest!

[Gravitycollapse]

1. To nuance this further, there would be nothing wrong if the number was disproportionate...

Precisely because people of color are subject to greater institutional prejudice and are thus more likely to suffer economic hardship.

But I doubt an utter buffoon like Cliven Bundy could grasp such a "complex" statement.

[Quixote1818]

2. Agree completely. nt

[lovemydog]

3. Thanks for the statistic

Cliven Bundy is a racist jerk.

[JaneyVee]

4. Does this account for

the entire population? For example, if 38.8% of whites are on welfare, and the white population in America is 73%, doesn't that equal far more numbers of whites on welfare than the 39% of black citizens on welfare which make up only 14% of the population?

Also, do those welfare numbers you provided include corporate welfare?

[butterfly77]

10. Exactly..

[cthulu2016]

5. your Headline correct, link factually incorrect

The author misunderstood or mis-stated the table she links to in the article in making that statement:

http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

There are roughly the same number of Caucasians on welfare as African-Americans, not roughly the same percentage. So your current headline is right.

[FBaggins]

6. Almost 40% of the public is on welfare?

I find that hard to believe.

[doc03]

8. That has to be a very poorly written column. I highly doubt 39% of any race are on

welfare. It must be 39% of welfare recipients are black and 38% are white. If 38% or 39% of people are on welfare I would have to agree with the Republicans about takers.

[951-Riverside]

7. This guy survives off of Tax breaks and government subsidies and...

Many within the Mormon religion drain the WELFARE system of millions in Utah, Arizona and other states, they call it "Bleeding the Beast". Gotta know if Cliven Bundy who is a Morman is a part of this "Bleeding the Beast" movement.

How can one find out if Cliven Bundy filed for welfare in Nevada or Utah the past 20 years?

In discussions about Warren Jeffs and the FLDS (Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) church the topic of “bleeding the beast,” or taking advantage of government money, often comes up. A former polygamist sect member, Laurie Allen, talked about it in an interview on In Session. Allen produced "Banking on Heaven," a documentary about the FLDS under Jeffs’ leadership. During our interview last week, Allen claimed the FLDS collects food stamps and other forms of public assistance because many of the women technically are still single. In the FLDS, multiple women are often “celestially married” to one man, with only one of the women being legally married to their collective husband. That means the other illegitimate wives can collect assistance for themselves and their children.

Allen said the group also collects government assistance for children with disabilities – disabilities she attributes to inbreeding in the FLDS community. She claims “in the state of Arizona alone, they’re getting between 20 and 30 million dollars a year” and most of the members “are living off taxpayer money.” She interviewed former Attorney General Terry Goddard in her documentary. Goddard told her 80% of the FLDS members are on welfare and more than 4,000 of them have state medical insurance access.

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2011/08/03/bleeding-beast-polygamist-sect-accused-abusing-welfare

[bvar22]

9. Since old Cliven has refused to pay his taxes or grazing fees,

....he is on welfare too.
....to the tune of over a Million Dollars.
THAT is Mega Welfare,
but I have a feeling that the gov is going to get their money out of him.

[lumberjack_jeff]

11. The CBS reporter misunderstood the data that she linked to.

38.8% of welfare recipients are white... NOT 38.8% of whites are welfare recipients.

Welfare Demographics
Percent of recipients who are white 38.8 %
Percent of recipients who are black 39.8 %
Percent of recipients who are Hispanic 15.7 %
Percent of recipients who are Asian 2.4 %
Percent of recipients who are Other 3.3 %

[Donald Ian Rankin]

12. This has not been properly thought through, I'm afraid.

For example, it labels "A lot of welfare recipients are drug addicts and alcoholics and they stay poor as a result of their addictions." a myth, but then, rather than providing evidence that it is not true, it says

"Fact: Most often, poverty in itself is not caused by addiction, but rather an addiction is the result of falling into poverty. Furthermore, people of all socioeconomic backgrounds suffer from addictions."

which is technically true, but a) does not contradict the thing it claims is a myth, and b) like practically every other sentence I've seen with the construction "people of all socioeconomic backgrounds/races/sexes/ages/nationalities etc X" is a deliberate attempt to deceive and mislead, by obfuscating the fact that there's a strong correlation between being addicted and being poor.


There's also

"Fact: Think again! The margin between Caucasians and African-Americans who are on welfare is extremely narrow — 38.8 percent of Caucasians, and 39.8 percent of African-Americans are on welfare."

which I'm deeply suspicious of - are they using an extremely wide definition of "welfare"? Or do they mean "38.8%/39.8% of people on welfare are Caucasian/African American?"


Oh, and the fact that it doesn't provide a shred of evidence for any of its claims...