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In 1999, Monsanto defined an extreme level of its Roundup herbicide as 5.6 milligrams per kilogram of plant weight.
So imagine how alarmed scientists were to find, on average, nine milligrams of Roundup per kilogram on 70 percent of the genetically engineered soy plants they recently tested. (At least 85 percent of all soy grown in the U.S. is genetically engineered).
The scientists studied 31 different soybean plants on Iowa farms. They compared the accumulation of pesticides and herbicides on plants in three categories: genetically engineered "Roundup Ready" soy, conventionally produced (non-GMO) soy, and soy cultivated using organic practices.
And the results were extremely disturbing.
The study will be published in June, in Food Chemistry, but its available now online.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/bytes/ob422.html#article6
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)adjusted upwards.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Cha
(297,620 posts)have GMO through it.
roody
(10,849 posts)and all organic?
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Cha
(297,620 posts)I don't eat out. always make my own yummy meals.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)which they sneak into everything.
In Asia soy is eaten in fermented forms.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)First of all you can't make a blanket statement about what Asia eats, because Asia is enormous and different countries and cultural groups have huge variations in diet. Second, while some Asian cuisines do use a lot of fermented soy (tempeh, natto, soy sauces, etc) many of those same cultures use unfermented options like edamame, tofu and soy beverages and deserts.
It's an argument that only makes sense if you've never been in a grocery store in an Asian neighborhood.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)--sorry if it conflicts with your worldview.
I'll stick with the advice to beware of too much unfermented soy (and GMO soy, which is in so many products). And Asians do not eat soy fiber, which is in a lot of food products in America.
Let people do their own research.
I'm just saying--all soy may not be good for you.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)and my acupuncturist has demonstrated that I should give her much credibility.
flvegan
(64,413 posts)I has internets!
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)flvegan
(64,413 posts)I'm wearing my *shocked* face now.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)yewberry
(6,530 posts)Worldwide, about six percent of soybeans are grown for human consumption. And it's very easy for me to go into the store and find non-GMO/ organic tofu.
Most soy is grown for oil and animal feed. You're going to want to start testing the animals you eat to find out if "Roundup" is accumulating in animal tissue. Scary stuff.
DebJ
(7,699 posts)in baby formula, way before GMOs. Just can't handle it at all.
tofuandbeer
(1,314 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)There are a very few farmers who do it. Soy needs very high acreage to be profitable, so you mostly only see the company farms growing it anymore.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)it is hard to find any organic non-GMO soy. You have to look hard for it, and pay.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Yes, soy production is overwhelmingly GMO, but most of that is animal feed and in processed conventional food. The stuff that winds up in soy milk, veggie burgers and tofu, etc, is largely non-GMO and organic. Those items are very easy to find- every grocery store carries them.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)which have the biggest presence in supermarkets. White Wave is the company that owns Land O Lakes brand, among many other brands.
http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2009/07/20/daily11.html?page=all
White Wave recently bought Earthbound Farms (for $600 mil).
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)because as a vegetarian, I eat lots of Morningstar products, soy milk, etc.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)Also 10 samples of GMs so clearly this is a range of options.
There is a good market for non-GMO soy here and many farmers choose to grow it. Among the major clients for non-GMO soys are Chipotle and Whole Foods Markets:
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-02-28/now-chipotle-will-serve-tofu-everywhere