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MindMover

(5,016 posts)
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 10:26 PM Apr 2014

You might want to look for No GMO Soy ....

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In 1999, Monsanto defined an “extreme level” of its Roundup herbicide as 5.6 milligrams per kilogram of plant weight.

So imagine how alarmed scientists were to find, on average, nine milligrams of Roundup per kilogram on 70 percent of the genetically engineered soy plants they recently tested. (At least 85 percent of all soy grown in the U.S. is genetically engineered).

The scientists studied 31 different soybean plants on Iowa farms. They compared the accumulation of pesticides and herbicides on plants in three categories: genetically engineered "Roundup Ready" soy, conventionally produced (non-GMO) soy, and soy cultivated using organic practices.

And the results were extremely disturbing.

The study will be published in June, in Food Chemistry, but it’s available now online.

http://www.organicconsumers.org/bytes/ob422.html#article6

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You might want to look for No GMO Soy .... (Original Post) MindMover Apr 2014 OP
This needs to be circulated. Thanks for posting it. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #1
I avoid all soy anyway. Good to know, but I expect the "extreme level" amount will just be djean111 Apr 2014 #2
This right here is the main reason I choose not to eat GMO food. eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #3
YEAH! I never eat GMO Anything.. I shop in stores that Cha Apr 2014 #4
That seems difficult. No eating out, roody Apr 2014 #6
pretty much - soy is everywhere now esp soybean oil lunasun Apr 2014 #7
It would be a lot of people but not for me.. Cha Apr 2014 #9
In general Eating lots of soy isn't great for you Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #5
Especially soy fiber marions ghost Apr 2014 #8
God, the "Asians eat fermented soy" misinformation gets on my nerves. LeftyMom Apr 2014 #15
Was told this by my Chinese acupuncturist marions ghost Apr 2014 #21
I don't care who told you, they were demonstrably wrong. LeftyMom Apr 2014 #23
OK but you haven't demonstrated it to me marions ghost Apr 2014 #25
LOL! flvegan Apr 2014 #10
I guess you do... Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #12
Guess you missed the intent of the post. flvegan Apr 2014 #13
Me too....lulz Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #14
You're just cranky because your soytitties make you irritable and feminized. LeftyMom Apr 2014 #16
soytitties Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #20
Folks, you need to re-think what this means. yewberry Apr 2014 #11
My body rejected soy products from the very beginning, DebJ Apr 2014 #17
Eeek!!!! Thanks for this! tofuandbeer Apr 2014 #18
Unfortunately non-GMO soy essentially is not grown or sold in the US Recursion Apr 2014 #19
I'd agree that marions ghost Apr 2014 #22
Depends on what you mean. LeftyMom Apr 2014 #24
White Wave changed from organic to "natural" (?) back in 2009 for Silk and Horizon brands KurtNYC Apr 2014 #27
Hope you are right, RebelOne Apr 2014 #28
The study linked in OP used 10 samples of conventional and 11 samples of organics ALL grown in Iowa KurtNYC Apr 2014 #26
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. I avoid all soy anyway. Good to know, but I expect the "extreme level" amount will just be
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 10:29 PM
Apr 2014

adjusted upwards.

Cha

(297,620 posts)
9. It would be a lot of people but not for me..
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 12:14 AM
Apr 2014

I don't eat out. always make my own yummy meals.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
15. God, the "Asians eat fermented soy" misinformation gets on my nerves.
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 01:08 AM
Apr 2014

First of all you can't make a blanket statement about what Asia eats, because Asia is enormous and different countries and cultural groups have huge variations in diet. Second, while some Asian cuisines do use a lot of fermented soy (tempeh, natto, soy sauces, etc) many of those same cultures use unfermented options like edamame, tofu and soy beverages and deserts.

It's an argument that only makes sense if you've never been in a grocery store in an Asian neighborhood.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
21. Was told this by my Chinese acupuncturist
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 08:56 AM
Apr 2014

--sorry if it conflicts with your worldview.

I'll stick with the advice to beware of too much unfermented soy (and GMO soy, which is in so many products). And Asians do not eat soy fiber, which is in a lot of food products in America.

Let people do their own research.

I'm just saying--all soy may not be good for you.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
25. OK but you haven't demonstrated it to me
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 12:58 PM
Apr 2014

and my acupuncturist has demonstrated that I should give her much credibility.

yewberry

(6,530 posts)
11. Folks, you need to re-think what this means.
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 12:25 AM
Apr 2014

Worldwide, about six percent of soybeans are grown for human consumption. And it's very easy for me to go into the store and find non-GMO/ organic tofu.

Most soy is grown for oil and animal feed. You're going to want to start testing the animals you eat to find out if "Roundup" is accumulating in animal tissue. Scary stuff.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
17. My body rejected soy products from the very beginning,
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 01:13 AM
Apr 2014

in baby formula, way before GMOs. Just can't handle it at all.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
19. Unfortunately non-GMO soy essentially is not grown or sold in the US
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 01:35 AM
Apr 2014

There are a very few farmers who do it. Soy needs very high acreage to be profitable, so you mostly only see the company farms growing it anymore.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
24. Depends on what you mean.
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 12:26 PM
Apr 2014

Yes, soy production is overwhelmingly GMO, but most of that is animal feed and in processed conventional food. The stuff that winds up in soy milk, veggie burgers and tofu, etc, is largely non-GMO and organic. Those items are very easy to find- every grocery store carries them.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
27. White Wave changed from organic to "natural" (?) back in 2009 for Silk and Horizon brands
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 04:45 PM
Apr 2014

which have the biggest presence in supermarkets. White Wave is the company that owns Land O Lakes brand, among many other brands.

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2009/07/20/daily11.html?page=all

White Wave recently bought Earthbound Farms (for $600 mil).

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
26. The study linked in OP used 10 samples of conventional and 11 samples of organics ALL grown in Iowa
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 04:37 PM
Apr 2014

Also 10 samples of GMs so clearly this is a range of options.

There is a good market for non-GMO soy here and many farmers choose to grow it. Among the major clients for non-GMO soys are Chipotle and Whole Foods Markets:

The tofu—made from soybeans that contain no genetically modified organisms—now accounts for about 3 percent of sales at (Chipotle) restaurants that serve them. The item comes from a product developed for Chipotle’s Asian concept, ShopHouse Southeast Asian Kitchen, reported Nation’s Restaurant News. While Sofritas cater to vegan and vegetarian diners, about half of sales go to meat eaters simply looking for a meatless meal.


http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-02-28/now-chipotle-will-serve-tofu-everywhere


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