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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:20 PM Apr 2014

RNC Spokesman Is Furious The GOP Has Been Lumped With Bundy...

RNC Spokesman Is Furious The GOP Has Been Lumped With Bundy (VIDEO)

A top spokesman for the Republican National Committee got heated during an interview Friday on CNN, saying Republicans have been unfairly linked to Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and his racist remarks.

RNC communications director Sean Spicer denounced the comments from the rancher who became something of a conservative hero earlier this month during a standoff with the federal government over gazing fees. Bundy's star came crashing down on Thursday after the New York Times published quotes in which he wondered aloud whether blacks would be better off as slaves.

But Spicer also used the opportunity to criticize the media for injecting GOP politics into the story. He did not acknowledge, however, that several high profile Republicans, including possible 2016 presidential contenders, had praised the rancher before the racist comments became public.

"I think the comments that Mr. Bundy made with respect to race and other things were inappropriate and wrong, 100 percent out of line and not part of the discourse we need to have," Spicer said. "But that being said, what I find fascinating as the chief spokesman for the Republican Party is that when a guy has a problem with cattle grazing and has a discussion about the size of the federal government and the overreach of the federal government, makes a comment every reporter calls the Republican National Committee asking for comment."

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cliven-bundy-cnn-sean-spicer-gop

GOP rats jumping ship from the good ship SS Cliven Bundy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024864423

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RNC Spokesman Is Furious The GOP Has Been Lumped With Bundy... (Original Post) ProSense Apr 2014 OP
Oh, boo-fricking-hoo Lifelong Protester Apr 2014 #1
I think he means that Bundy has been lumped with the RNC. nt kelliekat44 Apr 2014 #57
They may run, but they can't hide pscot Apr 2014 #2
Time for the ol' Lump-n-Dump Blue Owl Apr 2014 #3
And they were expecting.....??? DFW Apr 2014 #4
Great analogy. The GOP has been in bed with these freakazoids for years! Too late to plead the 5th! freshwest Apr 2014 #53
Every bigot I know votes Republican. Every. Single. One. Ikonoklast Apr 2014 #5
Same here. I know a lot of people in the small towns around my home; those that are openly racist AlinPA Apr 2014 #9
Same here. Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #10
Ditto. North Florida. And I love pointing it out to the racists assholes. Lochloosa Apr 2014 #14
Both my racist brothers vote republican liberal N proud Apr 2014 #31
What??? They've been kissing Clive Bundy's ass since he began spewing crap, and now they hate him? Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #6
Their big problem, binary thinking Thor_MN Apr 2014 #20
Binary thinking is bad, but Cliven Bundy is radioactive as long as he has an open mouth. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #50
the man dared to speak what they all think Skittles Apr 2014 #30
True, that. :) They just need to own it, instead of scrambling for cover at being exposed. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #46
it's strange Skittles Apr 2014 #54
Maybe it's just getting too obvious even for Clarence Thomas, Herman Cain and Allen West ? Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #63
You Put Your Finger On It, Ma'am: Bundy Said What The Black Freaks Like Cain And West Say Often The Magistrate Apr 2014 #67
thanks, The Magistrate!! Skittles Apr 2014 #68
True. "for all that it is fed to them for their amusement by a sort of political blackface act" Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #69
It's GOP Senators, Congrressmen, and Governors who were out trumpeting Bundy's "cause" CanonRay Apr 2014 #7
Well he should blame fox news. craigmatic Apr 2014 #8
Finally, their anti-government agenda is finally imploding on them. Baitball Blogger Apr 2014 #11
Hey, you lie down with dogs and you get up with fleas, pal. Arkana Apr 2014 #12
. libodem Apr 2014 #13
Here's to finding lots more opportunities to make them furious phantom power Apr 2014 #15
when a dumbass racist makes a dumbass statement you go to the party of dumbass racists leftyohiolib Apr 2014 #16
The Republican Party's incestuous relationship with FOX "News" is the source. bvar22 Apr 2014 #17
After all the dog whistling and time spent cultivating these people as their base, I feel no Skidmore Apr 2014 #18
Between the lines Scalded Nun Apr 2014 #19
Have to add ProSense Apr 2014 #21
Thank you for that ProSense.. Benen has a way of putting it into Cha Apr 2014 #60
LOL. Nice try, I guess. These bagger politicians insult my intelligence every single day. They think catbyte Apr 2014 #22
What they're really thinking: "We almost got away with it, if it weren't for you meddling kids!" Arugula Latte Apr 2014 #23
Too late, assholes. The bell rang. . . DinahMoeHum Apr 2014 #24
Republicans are delighted to have Fox news in their corner until they lead maddiemom Apr 2014 #25
Too bad, so sad JustAnotherGen Apr 2014 #26
Too bad, GOPers. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2014 #27
Sorta like saying that the Mafia is furious to be lumped with criminals. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #28
That's what happens when your Marketing/PR department is running things underpants Apr 2014 #29
The Kochs’ AFP starts scrubbing its Bundy support ProSense Apr 2014 #32
I bet they think the Dem's made that happen Politicalboi Apr 2014 #33
If you act like an asshole, talk like like a racist, support fascists and terrorists, santamargarita Apr 2014 #34
When you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #35
walks like a duck... n/t RainDog Apr 2014 #36
Haha!!!! Sorry, but lie down with ... closeupready Apr 2014 #37
The Bundy fiasco The Wizard Apr 2014 #38
!!! 2naSalit Apr 2014 #39
LOL!!! You guys are ALL a joke!... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #40
Geez whiz what gibberish Iliyah Apr 2014 #41
Stand yer ground, republicans!! johnnyreb Apr 2014 #42
Aaaawwww. He haz a sad that the wingnut the GOP embraced is, well, a nut. nt Hekate Apr 2014 #43
If he quacks like a rethug, if he waddles like a rethug ... lpbk2713 Apr 2014 #44
He keeps trying to make it 'better' louis-t Apr 2014 #45
Boo Frickin Boo SallyAnn Apr 2014 #47
Didn't all the Republicans support that Duck Dynasty guy NewJeffCT Apr 2014 #48
Here, let me post the list of democrats and progressives that supported Cliven Bundy... LynneSin Apr 2014 #49
Bundy is just repeating what Republicans have said RainDog Apr 2014 #51
"who became something of a conservative hero" Solly Mack Apr 2014 #52
Yeah, and they don't like to be called racists rock Apr 2014 #55
Maybe you should be furious at your GOP elected officials who leapt off that cliff tanyev Apr 2014 #56
In my view, the GOP needs all Turbineguy Apr 2014 #58
Oooops! Classic Memory Hole.. Sure we clips of the repbubs praising bundy Cha Apr 2014 #59
Well they rallied to his treasonous cause and he is a malaise Apr 2014 #61
Since when is it "government overreach" to charge ... surrealAmerican Apr 2014 #62
It's not just his racist thoughts and comments, it's "doesn't believe in the US gov't" Fla Dem Apr 2014 #64
The tar and feathers here extend beyond just Bundy and overt racism... Moostache Apr 2014 #65
This is a "top spokesperson" for the RNC? NastyRiffraff Apr 2014 #66
It reminds me of what happened when the whole Monica Lewinski mess blew up around Bill Clinton. calimary Apr 2014 #70

pscot

(21,024 posts)
2. They may run, but they can't hide
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:25 PM
Apr 2014

Everybody knows what they are and what they stand for. Everyone understands their coded messages.

DFW

(54,397 posts)
4. And they were expecting.....???
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:27 PM
Apr 2014

That's like going to sleep one night in your own bed and then being upset because when you wake up the next morning, you're in the same bed.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
53. Great analogy. The GOP has been in bed with these freakazoids for years! Too late to plead the 5th!
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 04:22 PM
Apr 2014


Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
5. Every bigot I know votes Republican. Every. Single. One.
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:31 PM
Apr 2014

Their continuously shrinking party is becoming what it is destined to be, a rural, regional political party full of of bigoted racists.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
9. Same here. I know a lot of people in the small towns around my home; those that are openly racist
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:42 PM
Apr 2014

are Republicans without exception.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
6. What??? They've been kissing Clive Bundy's ass since he began spewing crap, and now they hate him?
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:34 PM
Apr 2014

These idiots have to make up their mind which side they're going to be on -

THE CLIVE BUNDY REPUBLICAN

or

THE LIBS

You can't have it both ways - they're opposites.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
20. Their big problem, binary thinking
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 02:21 PM
Apr 2014

Ol' Cliven can only be 100% right or 100% wrong. They can not accept the parts they agreed with, without also accepting the racism. They have no clue how to partial own something, so now they are annoyed that they have lost him completely.

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
54. it's strange
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 04:23 PM
Apr 2014

they're proudly misogynist, homophobic, anti-worker - why don't they own their racism? EVERYONE KNOWS THEY ARE RACIST.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
63. Maybe it's just getting too obvious even for Clarence Thomas, Herman Cain and Allen West ?
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 10:09 PM
Apr 2014

Or maybe just a plain old fear of one day getting their skinny, lying behinds thrashed by someone who finally reached the end of his/her rope with all the Repuke racism?

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
67. You Put Your Finger On It, Ma'am: Bundy Said What The Black Freaks Like Cain And West Say Often
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 12:12 PM
Apr 2014

They say it to a white audience, of course, which laps it up because it is exactly what they believe and think right, and since a black person says it, it must not be racist, right? It is virulently racist, however, for all that it is fed to them for their amusement by a sort of political blackface act, and they generally have just enough wit to avoid saying out loud, straight up in plain language, outside a closed circle or near a hot mike. Bundy simply broke the 'black Republicans only' rule....

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
69. True. "for all that it is fed to them for their amusement by a sort of political blackface act"
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 07:46 PM
Apr 2014

"Bundy simply broke the 'black Republicans only' rule...."

So true.

And I've never understood that anyway. Most people (of all races) have self-respect and are proud to be who they are. I just don't get any race allowing its race to be bashed, particularly by those who hate the race, OR, bashing one's own race in the presence of those who have spent their life bashing one's race.

What is wrong with the Clarence Thomases of the world, anyway? Mental problems? Deep-seated self-hatred like that found in right wing females who hate females and want the rights to be taken from females? Such as that psycho, Phyllis Schlafly?

CanonRay

(14,103 posts)
7. It's GOP Senators, Congrressmen, and Governors who were out trumpeting Bundy's "cause"
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:38 PM
Apr 2014

'fraid you own it now, GOP. Good luck with that. I think 9% of the black vote is now a lofty goal for you.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
12. Hey, you lie down with dogs and you get up with fleas, pal.
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:44 PM
Apr 2014

I think you dumbshits might need to think twice the next time some yodel from East Bumfuck, Nevada goes on an anti-government crusade.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
17. The Republican Party's incestuous relationship with FOX "News" is the source.
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:55 PM
Apr 2014

Fox serves as an unquestioning campaign proxy and propaganda outlet for the Republican Party.
The FOX News commentators immediately aligned themselves with Bundy,
proclaiming him a Patriot and an American Hero.
It is too late to walk that back,
and it is far too late for the Republican Party to try to distance themselves from Fox News.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
18. After all the dog whistling and time spent cultivating these people as their base, I feel no
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:57 PM
Apr 2014

sympathy. There is no excusing this association or any of the others they have established over the years with the goal of disenfranchising and trampling on people of color and women. This one man clearly is the embodiment of all of the bigotry and misogyny they represent.

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
19. Between the lines
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 02:18 PM
Apr 2014

How this should have read....
"I think the comments that Mr. Bundy made with respect to race and other things were just spot on, 100 percent on the mark and part of the discourse we have daily, BUT...he was not supposed to say that publicly!"

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
21. Have to add
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 02:24 PM
Apr 2014

Steve Benen's post:

Political figures who rallied to defend Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy must have known they were taking a risk. Indeed, much of the Republican establishment chose to do the exact opposite precisely because they were afraid to gamble on a man who doesn’t recognize the legitimacy of the United States government.

But some prominent GOP officials rolled the dice anyway. Fox News and Glenn Beck celebrated the rancher as a hero, while U.S. senators like Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Dean Heller (R-Nev.) cheered Bundy on, calling him a “patriot,” even as he declared an ability to ignore laws and court orders he doesn’t like.

It’s become increasingly difficult to maintain this posture. For one thing, anyone relying on the threat of violence to act above the law hasn’t earned the backing of anyone in the American mainstream. For another, some of the basic elements of Bundy’s claims now appear to be false.

<...>

Frankly, it was pretty obvious before that federal lawmakers like Rand Paul and Dean Heller were making a huge mistake rallying behind Bundy. When it comes to choosing a proper cause celebre, it’s best not to choose a man who’s said, “I don’t recognize [the] United States government as even existing,” and whose supporters appeared prepared for a confrontation – a potentially violent confrontation – with American law enforcement.

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http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/bundy-i-want-tell-you-one-more-thing

What does it say when U.S. Senators become apologists for lunatics who declare they don't recognize the U.S. government? Still, as the OP shows, Republicans are starting to realize they were dumbasses for jumping on this lunatic's bandwagon.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
60. Thank you for that ProSense.. Benen has a way of putting it into
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 07:30 PM
Apr 2014

proper prospective. What does this say about Senators Heller and Paul? That they're judgement sucks. that they think they're working for a government that "Does Not Even Exist".

catbyte

(34,393 posts)
22. LOL. Nice try, I guess. These bagger politicians insult my intelligence every single day. They think
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 02:27 PM
Apr 2014

all of us are as stupid, ignorant, & gullible as their supporters.



maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
25. Republicans are delighted to have Fox news in their corner until they lead
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 02:37 PM
Apr 2014

them into something like this. You can put the Bundy thing squarely on the Fox "news"/Republican cabal. It's been coming for a long time.

underpants

(182,823 posts)
29. That's what happens when your Marketing/PR department is running things
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 02:47 PM
Apr 2014

"We all thought Fox News was working for us. It turns out we are working for Fox News"
-David Frum

santamargarita

(3,170 posts)
34. If you act like an asshole, talk like like a racist, support fascists and terrorists,
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 03:11 PM
Apr 2014

then your are servile scum also known as a Republican.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
35. When you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 03:13 PM
Apr 2014

Of course, in the case of Bundy and the GOP, that was an insult to both dogs and fleas.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
38. The Bundy fiasco
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 03:21 PM
Apr 2014

ripped the scab off of Republican bigotry. Everyone knows what their underlying message has been since Goldwater, and now it's official. Pox News is the unwitting dupe and the GOP stepped in it. There's no where to hide now.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
40. LOL!!! You guys are ALL a joke!...
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 03:30 PM
Apr 2014

This is a pattern with these clowns falling in love with a STORY.

A total FICTION.

I bet this idiot would claim the Terri Schiavo case was real.

So was "Joe the Plumber".

Hell, their entire telling of the Reagan Years is a total FICTION.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
41. Geez whiz what gibberish
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 03:36 PM
Apr 2014

The Gubmint per GOPers is always trying to take your freedumb from y'all and taking up arms and bullshit support for asshole racist Bundy was 100% in GOPers' favor until ahem he opened his big arse mouth and told America/world exactly how he feels.

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
45. He keeps trying to make it 'better'
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 03:58 PM
Apr 2014

by continuing to talk. The BLM person who decided to walk away and let this guy hang himself should get a medal. I bet they're grinning like the Cheshire cat.

 

SallyAnn

(12 posts)
47. Boo Frickin Boo
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 04:01 PM
Apr 2014

Nobody twisted the arms of these GOP er's who backed that welfare moocher. Complain about injecting politics into the matter? Wow, wonders never cease. Who started it, well the GOP DID. Now it comes back to bite them on the rear, they can't handle it, and complain they are being picked on. Waaaaaa

Suck it up GOP, you asked for it, you received it. And fittingly so. Perhaps the next time some of you conservative nut jobs will think twice before opening your mouths.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
49. Here, let me post the list of democrats and progressives that supported Cliven Bundy...
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 04:10 PM
Apr 2014

.

.

.

.

.

.

Oh wait, there were none!!!

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
51. Bundy is just repeating what Republicans have said
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 04:17 PM
Apr 2014

Republican Rep. Jon Hubbard of Jonesboro, Ark.:

http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2012/10/05/republican-extremists-in-their-own-words

Slavery was good for black people:

“… the institution of slavery that the black race has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may actually have been a blessing in disguise. The blacks who could endure those conditions and circumstances would someday be rewarded with citizenship in the greatest nation ever established upon the face of the Earth.” (Pages 183-89)

If you think slavery was bad, you should have seen Africa:

African Americans must “understand that even while in the throes of slavery, their lives as Americans are likely much better than they ever would have enjoyed living in sub-Saharan Africa.”
“Knowing what we know today about life on the African continent, would an existence spent in slavery have been any crueler than a life spent in sub-Saharan Africa?” (Pages 93 and 189)

Black people are ignorant:

“Wouldn’t life for blacks in America today be more enjoyable and successful if they would only learn to appreciate the value of a good education?” (Page 184)


At CPAC: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/15/1729331/cpac-slavery-minority-outreach/

At a Republican leadership conference: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/44/post/obama-impersonator-makes-racial-gay-jokes-at-gop-gathering/2011/06/18/AGVLAUaH_blog.html

From Ron Paul newsletters: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/politics/angry-white-man

From Lee Atwater's deathbed attempt to get right with god by admitting he appealed to racism to win votes for republicans - http://www.nytimes.com/1991/01/13/us/gravely-ill-atwater-offers-apology.html

Atwater at work here: http://americablog.com/2012/11/audio-of-infamous-lee-atwater-interview-its-a-matter-of-how-abstract-you-handle-the-race-thing.html

The Republican Party of Lincoln would be appalled that today's Republican Party is nothing more than the rump of the confederate "state's rights" racists.

Solly Mack

(90,769 posts)
52. "who became something of a conservative hero"
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 04:19 PM
Apr 2014

"several high profile Republicans, including possible 2016 presidential contenders, had praised the rancher"


Y'all made him your right-wing poster boy. He's yours. All yours.

tanyev

(42,559 posts)
56. Maybe you should be furious at your GOP elected officials who leapt off that cliff
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 04:24 PM
Apr 2014

before taking a good look over the edge.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
59. Oooops! Classic Memory Hole.. Sure we clips of the repbubs praising bundy
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 07:21 PM
Apr 2014

.. when there was nothing to praise before more stupid came out.

thanks PS

surrealAmerican

(11,361 posts)
62. Since when is it "government overreach" to charge ...
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 08:29 PM
Apr 2014

... way below market rates to graze cattle on federally-owned land? Is this really what Mr. Spicer meant to say?

Fla Dem

(23,677 posts)
64. It's not just his racist thoughts and comments, it's "doesn't believe in the US gov't"
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 10:27 AM
Apr 2014

mooching off federal land we all own, and ready to go up against the gov't with an armed militia. He's no different than any terrorist who attacks a government facility, like Timothy McVeigh.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
65. The tar and feathers here extend beyond just Bundy and overt racism...
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 11:47 AM
Apr 2014

The GOP hates being called racists even more than they hate Hillary Clinton (and THAT's a lot of hate right there)...but I wish I could have hidden camera footage of them hearing Bundy intone "Let me tell you one more thing I know about THE NEGRO..."

The look of abject horror on the faces of the more intelligent of those psychopaths would have been priceless, but the other thing that the GOP has got a huge problem with is the gun totting fools with their anti-government nonsense that had microphones and cameras breathlessly following them around saying things about "there is no legitimate federal government", "we were going to put all the women up front...", "this is just our freedoms being taken away by tyranny". People, even some GOP voters, watched that and were appalled. Not just by the images and soundbites but also by the sheer magnitude of the ass-backwardness of it all.

The party of "patriots" was now championing people who claimed there is NO USA. That was the GOP's very own "Goddamn America" moment and it was played over and over and over and over until....Bundy came out sounding like he was addressing the local Klan meeting and then kept on saying it afterwards.

Now I get under the skin of the local GOP yahoos by asking them why they hate black people AND America...to say they are not amused is putting it lightly...LOL!

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
66. This is a "top spokesperson" for the RNC?
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 11:58 AM
Apr 2014

This is the best they can do? What he says is pure gibberish. I had to read the last paragraph three times to make any sort of sense It's only when he says "not part of the discourse we need to have" that you get what he is saying, if only inadvertently: Bundy said plainly and right out loud what most Republicans think. But the "discourse" has to be hidden and coded, not this icky plain speaking.

calimary

(81,298 posts)
70. It reminds me of what happened when the whole Monica Lewinski mess blew up around Bill Clinton.
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 03:08 PM
Apr 2014

You couldn't find a Clinton defender ANYWHERE. They all ran out on him. And the only reliable and consistent voice or talking head anybody could ever get, to take on any on-camera or other media defense of him was Lanny Davis. Lanny Davis? WHO? Never heard of him. He was way far down the food chain but by Jove he was out there as THE PUBLIC FACE of the Clinton/Monica scandal when nobody else wanted to step up. DeeDee Myers? Vanished. George Stephanopulous? Bye-bye. Of course THEY went on to big-ass media jobs. Nicely rewarded for turning on their boss and utterly deserting him. Sweet people. So suddenly you have this unknown outta where-the-hell in the lower layers of the Clinton White House who was suddenly all over the airwaves and TV/cable news as THE Clinton Spokesman Of Record. Whenever the subject came up and they needed SOME pro-Clinton person on there to take the "other side" during the non-stop pounding of him, cue Lanny Davis. Everybody else was AWOL. They didn't want to be associated with him. Didn't want to get his cooties all over themselves.

So I think that's what's happening now, on the other side. May be indicative of just how icky this is. NOBODY's stepping up who's of any import. Anybody heard from rinsed penis, for example? kkkarl rove? bill kristol? Hello? Anybody? Nope. Just crickets and some guy pushed out to the front by the chickens behind him, to take the heat and be the face that's now added on here for all to see.

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