General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRNC Spokesman Is Furious The GOP Has Been Lumped With Bundy...
A top spokesman for the Republican National Committee got heated during an interview Friday on CNN, saying Republicans have been unfairly linked to Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and his racist remarks.
RNC communications director Sean Spicer denounced the comments from the rancher who became something of a conservative hero earlier this month during a standoff with the federal government over gazing fees. Bundy's star came crashing down on Thursday after the New York Times published quotes in which he wondered aloud whether blacks would be better off as slaves.
But Spicer also used the opportunity to criticize the media for injecting GOP politics into the story. He did not acknowledge, however, that several high profile Republicans, including possible 2016 presidential contenders, had praised the rancher before the racist comments became public.
"I think the comments that Mr. Bundy made with respect to race and other things were inappropriate and wrong, 100 percent out of line and not part of the discourse we need to have," Spicer said. "But that being said, what I find fascinating as the chief spokesman for the Republican Party is that when a guy has a problem with cattle grazing and has a discussion about the size of the federal government and the overreach of the federal government, makes a comment every reporter calls the Republican National Committee asking for comment."
- more -
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cliven-bundy-cnn-sean-spicer-gop
GOP rats jumping ship from the good ship SS Cliven Bundy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024864423
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)It's all on you, now, RNC. So own it, you smugsters.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)pscot
(21,024 posts)Everybody knows what they are and what they stand for. Everyone understands their coded messages.
Blue Owl
(50,393 posts)DFW
(54,397 posts)That's like going to sleep one night in your own bed and then being upset because when you wake up the next morning, you're in the same bed.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Their continuously shrinking party is becoming what it is destined to be, a rural, regional political party full of of bigoted racists.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)are Republicans without exception.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Lochloosa
(16,065 posts)liberal N proud
(60,335 posts)Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)These idiots have to make up their mind which side they're going to be on -
THE CLIVE BUNDY REPUBLICAN
or
THE LIBS
You can't have it both ways - they're opposites.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Ol' Cliven can only be 100% right or 100% wrong. They can not accept the parts they agreed with, without also accepting the racism. They have no clue how to partial own something, so now they are annoyed that they have lost him completely.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)Skittles
(153,164 posts)Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)Skittles
(153,164 posts)they're proudly misogynist, homophobic, anti-worker - why don't they own their racism? EVERYONE KNOWS THEY ARE RACIST.
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)Or maybe just a plain old fear of one day getting their skinny, lying behinds thrashed by someone who finally reached the end of his/her rope with all the Repuke racism?
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)They say it to a white audience, of course, which laps it up because it is exactly what they believe and think right, and since a black person says it, it must not be racist, right? It is virulently racist, however, for all that it is fed to them for their amusement by a sort of political blackface act, and they generally have just enough wit to avoid saying out loud, straight up in plain language, outside a closed circle or near a hot mike. Bundy simply broke the 'black Republicans only' rule....
Skittles
(153,164 posts)that explains it perfectly
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)"Bundy simply broke the 'black Republicans only' rule...."
So true.
And I've never understood that anyway. Most people (of all races) have self-respect and are proud to be who they are. I just don't get any race allowing its race to be bashed, particularly by those who hate the race, OR, bashing one's own race in the presence of those who have spent their life bashing one's race.
What is wrong with the Clarence Thomases of the world, anyway? Mental problems? Deep-seated self-hatred like that found in right wing females who hate females and want the rights to be taken from females? Such as that psycho, Phyllis Schlafly?
CanonRay
(14,103 posts)'fraid you own it now, GOP. Good luck with that. I think 9% of the black vote is now a lofty goal for you.
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,720 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)I think you dumbshits might need to think twice the next time some yodel from East Bumfuck, Nevada goes on an anti-government crusade.
[img][/img]
phantom power
(25,966 posts)leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)Fox serves as an unquestioning campaign proxy and propaganda outlet for the Republican Party.
The FOX News commentators immediately aligned themselves with Bundy,
proclaiming him a Patriot and an American Hero.
It is too late to walk that back,
and it is far too late for the Republican Party to try to distance themselves from Fox News.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)sympathy. There is no excusing this association or any of the others they have established over the years with the goal of disenfranchising and trampling on people of color and women. This one man clearly is the embodiment of all of the bigotry and misogyny they represent.
Scalded Nun
(1,236 posts)How this should have read....
"I think the comments that Mr. Bundy made with respect to race and other things were just spot on, 100 percent on the mark and part of the discourse we have daily, BUT...he was not supposed to say that publicly!"
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Steve Benen's post:
But some prominent GOP officials rolled the dice anyway. Fox News and Glenn Beck celebrated the rancher as a hero, while U.S. senators like Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Dean Heller (R-Nev.) cheered Bundy on, calling him a patriot, even as he declared an ability to ignore laws and court orders he doesnt like.
Its become increasingly difficult to maintain this posture. For one thing, anyone relying on the threat of violence to act above the law hasnt earned the backing of anyone in the American mainstream. For another, some of the basic elements of Bundys claims now appear to be false.
<...>
Frankly, it was pretty obvious before that federal lawmakers like Rand Paul and Dean Heller were making a huge mistake rallying behind Bundy. When it comes to choosing a proper cause celebre, its best not to choose a man whos said, I dont recognize [the] United States government as even existing, and whose supporters appeared prepared for a confrontation a potentially violent confrontation with American law enforcement.
- more -
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/bundy-i-want-tell-you-one-more-thing
What does it say when U.S. Senators become apologists for lunatics who declare they don't recognize the U.S. government? Still, as the OP shows, Republicans are starting to realize they were dumbasses for jumping on this lunatic's bandwagon.
Cha
(297,275 posts)proper prospective. What does this say about Senators Heller and Paul? That they're judgement sucks. that they think they're working for a government that "Does Not Even Exist".
catbyte
(34,393 posts)all of us are as stupid, ignorant, & gullible as their supporters.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts). . .and it can't be unrung.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)them into something like this. You can put the Bundy thing squarely on the Fox "news"/Republican cabal. It's been coming for a long time.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)He loses!
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,719 posts)Ya lie down with dogs, ya get up with fleas.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)underpants
(182,823 posts)"We all thought Fox News was working for us. It turns out we are working for Fox News"
-David Frum
ProSense
(116,464 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024870874
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Cause we control Rand Paul, and Sean Hannity.
santamargarita
(3,170 posts)then your are servile scum also known as a Republican.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Of course, in the case of Bundy and the GOP, that was an insult to both dogs and fleas.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)well, you know how that goes.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)ripped the scab off of Republican bigotry. Everyone knows what their underlying message has been since Goldwater, and now it's official. Pox News is the unwitting dupe and the GOP stepped in it. There's no where to hide now.
2naSalit
(86,637 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)This is a pattern with these clowns falling in love with a STORY.
A total FICTION.
I bet this idiot would claim the Terri Schiavo case was real.
So was "Joe the Plumber".
Hell, their entire telling of the Reagan Years is a total FICTION.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)The Gubmint per GOPers is always trying to take your freedumb from y'all and taking up arms and bullshit support for asshole racist Bundy was 100% in GOPers' favor until ahem he opened his big arse mouth and told America/world exactly how he feels.
johnnyreb
(915 posts)'Long as yew got both feet stuck in it!
Hekate
(90,708 posts)lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)then he's a rethug.
louis-t
(23,295 posts)by continuing to talk. The BLM person who decided to walk away and let this guy hang himself should get a medal. I bet they're grinning like the Cheshire cat.
SallyAnn
(12 posts)Nobody twisted the arms of these GOP er's who backed that welfare moocher. Complain about injecting politics into the matter? Wow, wonders never cease. Who started it, well the GOP DID. Now it comes back to bite them on the rear, they can't handle it, and complain they are being picked on. Waaaaaa
Suck it up GOP, you asked for it, you received it. And fittingly so. Perhaps the next time some of you conservative nut jobs will think twice before opening your mouths.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)for remarks almost as bad?
LynneSin
(95,337 posts).
.
.
.
.
.
Oh wait, there were none!!!
RainDog
(28,784 posts)Republican Rep. Jon Hubbard of Jonesboro, Ark.:
Slavery was good for black people:
the institution of slavery that the black race has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may actually have been a blessing in disguise. The blacks who could endure those conditions and circumstances would someday be rewarded with citizenship in the greatest nation ever established upon the face of the Earth. (Pages 183-89)
If you think slavery was bad, you should have seen Africa:
African Americans must understand that even while in the throes of slavery, their lives as Americans are likely much better than they ever would have enjoyed living in sub-Saharan Africa.
Knowing what we know today about life on the African continent, would an existence spent in slavery have been any crueler than a life spent in sub-Saharan Africa? (Pages 93 and 189)
Black people are ignorant:
Wouldnt life for blacks in America today be more enjoyable and successful if they would only learn to appreciate the value of a good education? (Page 184)
At CPAC: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/15/1729331/cpac-slavery-minority-outreach/
At a Republican leadership conference: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/44/post/obama-impersonator-makes-racial-gay-jokes-at-gop-gathering/2011/06/18/AGVLAUaH_blog.html
From Ron Paul newsletters: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/politics/angry-white-man
From Lee Atwater's deathbed attempt to get right with god by admitting he appealed to racism to win votes for republicans - http://www.nytimes.com/1991/01/13/us/gravely-ill-atwater-offers-apology.html
Atwater at work here: http://americablog.com/2012/11/audio-of-infamous-lee-atwater-interview-its-a-matter-of-how-abstract-you-handle-the-race-thing.html
The Republican Party of Lincoln would be appalled that today's Republican Party is nothing more than the rump of the confederate "state's rights" racists.
Solly Mack
(90,769 posts)"several high profile Republicans, including possible 2016 presidential contenders, had praised the rancher"
Y'all made him your right-wing poster boy. He's yours. All yours.
rock
(13,218 posts)but they are.
tanyev
(42,559 posts)before taking a good look over the edge.
Turbineguy
(37,337 posts)the enemies it can get!
Cha
(297,275 posts).. when there was nothing to praise before more stupid came out.
thanks PS
malaise
(269,022 posts)registered ReTHUG.
How freaking delish!!!
surrealAmerican
(11,361 posts)... way below market rates to graze cattle on federally-owned land? Is this really what Mr. Spicer meant to say?
Fla Dem
(23,677 posts)mooching off federal land we all own, and ready to go up against the gov't with an armed militia. He's no different than any terrorist who attacks a government facility, like Timothy McVeigh.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)The GOP hates being called racists even more than they hate Hillary Clinton (and THAT's a lot of hate right there)...but I wish I could have hidden camera footage of them hearing Bundy intone "Let me tell you one more thing I know about THE NEGRO..."
The look of abject horror on the faces of the more intelligent of those psychopaths would have been priceless, but the other thing that the GOP has got a huge problem with is the gun totting fools with their anti-government nonsense that had microphones and cameras breathlessly following them around saying things about "there is no legitimate federal government", "we were going to put all the women up front...", "this is just our freedoms being taken away by tyranny". People, even some GOP voters, watched that and were appalled. Not just by the images and soundbites but also by the sheer magnitude of the ass-backwardness of it all.
The party of "patriots" was now championing people who claimed there is NO USA. That was the GOP's very own "Goddamn America" moment and it was played over and over and over and over until....Bundy came out sounding like he was addressing the local Klan meeting and then kept on saying it afterwards.
Now I get under the skin of the local GOP yahoos by asking them why they hate black people AND America...to say they are not amused is putting it lightly...LOL!
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)This is the best they can do? What he says is pure gibberish. I had to read the last paragraph three times to make any sort of sense It's only when he says "not part of the discourse we need to have" that you get what he is saying, if only inadvertently: Bundy said plainly and right out loud what most Republicans think. But the "discourse" has to be hidden and coded, not this icky plain speaking.
calimary
(81,298 posts)You couldn't find a Clinton defender ANYWHERE. They all ran out on him. And the only reliable and consistent voice or talking head anybody could ever get, to take on any on-camera or other media defense of him was Lanny Davis. Lanny Davis? WHO? Never heard of him. He was way far down the food chain but by Jove he was out there as THE PUBLIC FACE of the Clinton/Monica scandal when nobody else wanted to step up. DeeDee Myers? Vanished. George Stephanopulous? Bye-bye. Of course THEY went on to big-ass media jobs. Nicely rewarded for turning on their boss and utterly deserting him. Sweet people. So suddenly you have this unknown outta where-the-hell in the lower layers of the Clinton White House who was suddenly all over the airwaves and TV/cable news as THE Clinton Spokesman Of Record. Whenever the subject came up and they needed SOME pro-Clinton person on there to take the "other side" during the non-stop pounding of him, cue Lanny Davis. Everybody else was AWOL. They didn't want to be associated with him. Didn't want to get his cooties all over themselves.
So I think that's what's happening now, on the other side. May be indicative of just how icky this is. NOBODY's stepping up who's of any import. Anybody heard from rinsed penis, for example? kkkarl rove? bill kristol? Hello? Anybody? Nope. Just crickets and some guy pushed out to the front by the chickens behind him, to take the heat and be the face that's now added on here for all to see.