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misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 05:46 PM Apr 2014

Question for Vaping friends as to new FDA regulations

Are theyt only regulating & inspecting vape juices made in USA or are they also inspecting those imported from China etc.?
Just wondering as to their inspections.
I have no problem with those making EJuices being held to pure ingredient standards. But many EJuices are imported as flavorings & some from China have already been found to be less than quality.
How does the FDA plan to regulate/inspect foreign made Ejuices & flavorings?

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Question for Vaping friends as to new FDA regulations (Original Post) misterhighwasted Apr 2014 OP
Once the FDA steps in as a regulating agency Warpy Apr 2014 #1
Guess I have doubts as to big global foreign marketing misterhighwasted Apr 2014 #3
Alcohol and tobacco were exempted from FDA oversight Warpy Apr 2014 #6
Can't believe we live in a period of JaneyVee Apr 2014 #2
Ha..yes true. I still don't have all the Vape lingo down. misterhighwasted Apr 2014 #4
No seriously, you nailed it with e-juice. JaneyVee Apr 2014 #9
No more samples Ruby the Liberal Apr 2014 #5
I saw that and wondered how they can prevent giving away samples of non-nicotine juice. KittyWampus Apr 2014 #7
I had the same thought Ruby the Liberal Apr 2014 #8
It just says "free samples" in the proposal LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #11
This article seems to be a good one. Sissyk Apr 2014 #10

Warpy

(111,273 posts)
1. Once the FDA steps in as a regulating agency
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 05:50 PM
Apr 2014

they do spot checks of domestic and foreign products. It's how they stop the import of a lot of stuff from Asia that is full of stuff that shouldn't be there. If they find a lot of problems with any company manufacturing the juice, either the importation of stuff from that company will be shut down or domestic manufacturers will be brought into compliance.

It's likely to add a little to the overall cost of the product, but at least you won't run the risk of inhaling cyanide for that nice almond flavor.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
3. Guess I have doubts as to big global foreign marketing
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 06:03 PM
Apr 2014

being held to the same standard as USA made. But I may be a bit tainted by the suspicion that Big Tobacco & multi$$$ global investors lurk somewhere in the back pocket of the FDA.
Won't be the first time in history that Corporations put the small business owner (with a crazy great & profitable idea) out of business for total ownership.
My fear as to free enterprise in the New World Order.

I wish much success those who have started small Vape stores & are making a living in the true American spirit.

Warpy

(111,273 posts)
6. Alcohol and tobacco were exempted from FDA oversight
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 07:16 PM
Apr 2014

from the time of the first constitutional convention. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms was set up then.

Since patches, lozenges, gum, and e cigs are drug delivery systems instead of purely tobacco leaves plus whatever other junk they put into them, they are subject to regulation by the FDA.

And yes, spot checks can miss things. However, just the threat of them keep manufacturers a little more honest as they find themselves with a warehouse full of stock they can't sell because the US has refused it.

FDA regulation and age limits are a good thing, IMO. They'll keep the stuff a little safer and nicotine out of the hands of kids, who should be able to buy fruit and candy flavors so they can look big at school.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
2. Can't believe we live in a period of
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 05:57 PM
Apr 2014

US history where a word like E-juice exists. I go to a vapor lounge occasionally, wonder how FDA will effect them.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
4. Ha..yes true. I still don't have all the Vape lingo down.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 06:10 PM
Apr 2014

As for flavors I really like Absolute Pin by Five Pawns. Tried it at a Vape Meet in Lewisville Tx. They use a variety of unusual flavors and steep them together in wooden vats for about 3 months. Not for everyone but I like the layers of flavor it gives. mmm

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
9. No seriously, you nailed it with e-juice.
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 12:30 AM
Apr 2014

Just amazed this is the world we live in. This vapor lounge is basically a 21st century hookah lounge. Tobacco has been replaced with e-juice. Fun.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
7. I saw that and wondered how they can prevent giving away samples of non-nicotine juice.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 07:17 PM
Apr 2014

I would understand (and agree) with not allowing free samples containing nicotine.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
11. It just says "free samples" in the proposal
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:16 AM
Apr 2014
prohibition on the distribution of free samples (same as for cigarettes)
is the wording used. I would like to see some clarification on if that applies to zero-nicotine flavors in a tester bar, or if it's only for handing out free junk lookalike ecigarettes and other items containing nicotine.

Comments open tomorrow.

Other than that, I'm pretty good with the proposed rules.

Sissyk

(12,665 posts)
10. This article seems to be a good one.
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:03 AM
Apr 2014
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/04/24/fda-e-cigarette-rules/8050875/

You will see the timeline of the FDA's involvement at the end. The article states the FDA will not try to ban flavors.

Also, it clears up the fact that the "E Cig Industry" did not ask to be a tobacco product. They didn't want to be regulated as drug-delivery devices.
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