I Must Apologize to DU. I was WRONG about how the BLM handled the Bundy affair.

[MohRokTah]

I was afraid backing down would embolden the terrorist assholes. They were somewhat emboldened but they have not acted on that.

Instead, the BLM handed Bundy and his supporters a piece of rope. Bundy then took that piece of rope, tied it into a noose, threw the noose over a tree branch and proceeded to hang himself.

Well played, BLM.

Well played.

[yallerdawg]

1. It worked out well

The biggest difference from this and Ruby Ridge and Waco was BLM was after cows, not people.

I heard that Bundy girl say 133 cows were missing.

Maybe a win/win for BLM?

[liberal N proud]

2. He still owes the American Taxpayer for all those back grazing fees

So he looks like a fool, now he will just crawl back to his ranch and continue to squat on land he does not own until the next time the BLM tries to collect.

The only question is, will his militia buddies come running back to rescue him then?

[Geoff R. Casavant]

40. BLM really has the upper hand here.

They can afford to wait.

Come out to the land, round up what cattle they can, leave when the militia nuts arrive, wait until the militia nuts get bored and leave, come out to the land, round up what cattle they can . . . .

And I would be willing to bet the costs of collecting the judgment get taken off the top of any cattle sales, so that judgment is barely moving downward.

[aikoaiko]

3. Do not fight the enemy the way he wants to be fought. Art of War

[NightWatcher]

11. You win the Internet today!!!

[jtuck004]

36. Sneak up behind them and bash them in the head. Art of Winning. n/t

[mainer]

4. How will the feds (all American citizens) collect from this moocher?

Does he get any federal payouts? Tax refunds? How can we, the American taxpayer, collect?

[MohRokTah]

5. Now that public offical support has to become nothing they'll go back after the cattle.

There are still hundreds of heads of cattle still on public land. The BLM will go back in, this time probably with backup from the US Marshalls and the FBI.

Bundy will lose this thing.

[passiveporcupine]

19. I don't think they will proceed that way.

Wouldn't that be pretty much playing into Bundy's hands? They want the confrontation. They want a bloody war.

[MohRokTah]

24. Nah, he's not going to have the militas around much longer.

The media will be going away because after the initial shock, covering a blatant racist is not good for ratings.

The militias will dwindle, then the BLM will comeback unannounced and finish the job. Since there was threatened violence the last time, they'll have overwhelming force and nobody will want to come back.

[mainer]

25. I don't think this can be handled through armed confrontation

They will rise up and shoot federal agents.

There has to be some way to do it through confiscation of bank accounts or stopping payment of any federal money coming his way.

[MohRokTah]

27. Legally, the BLM MUST remove the cattle.

There's no other answer. The cattle must go.

[mainer]

29. I agree with you. But putting federal agents in danger worries me.

What if they're faced with a ring of women and children standing in their way? Egads, this is a nightmare for the BLM.

[MohRokTah]

30. #1, the militas will be nowhere near the place.

#2, they'll have to come back for a confrontation and the BLM will already be on the ground and operating.

[Bigmack]

31. Open the area to "feral" cattle hunting...

Damn things taste like..... um.... beef!

[lumberjack_jeff]

46. Yup.

Ear tags are $400 each, but season is only open for those cattle with the right brand.

[FailureToCommunicate]

41. Well he owes us all about a penny. But it is the principal of the thing and

we should collect! (One million $ divided by approx 100 million taxpayers.)

Then the IRS should keep going and get after all the large corporations who pay little or no tax, or hide profits in the Caymans...

Why, with the rightful taxes and penalties paid up, the Treasury Dept. would 'need a bigger vault'

[CTyankee]

42. well, the IRS has some pretty powerful ways to deal with tax cheats...

I think he'll be in IRS hell for some time....heh...

[Spitfire of ATJ]

43. A better question: Who's going to buy his non-USDA cattle?

[mainer]

45. Interesting. So USDA could refuse to certify his beef

and he'd be forced to sell privately to the militia guys, who'd have to buy it uncertified.

[rhett o rick]

47. I dont see how he can have the USDA do anything. They have US right in their dang name.

And the US dont even exist, but they do have a nice flag.

[randome]

6. Not sure an apology is needed.

Being wrong occasionally goes with the territory. Now insisting you're right no matter the facts would deserve an apology. But being wrong when you're open to changing your mind? Meh.
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[JI7]

7. i think it was simply about not wanting to lose lives(especially on the fed side)

[ancianita]

8. Glad you've changed your mind about BLM. I agree that they did the smart thing.

[phantom power]

9. "they have not acted" -- but it's been only a few days

I don't know about anybody else, but I'm thinking longer term than that. Months, maybe a few years.

[AverageJoe90]

10. It's always good to admit that you've made a mistake once you've realized it.

In all honesty, though, I'm glad the BLM did the smart thing; Obama didn't need a Ruby Ridge or Waco on his hands.

[Gary 50]

12. I hate to be mean but...

I hope when this is over Mr. Bundy is homeless and on welfare.

[Mr.Bill]

13. Conservative websites I lurk at are doubling down

and saying he is absolutely right, he is a great patriot, blah, blah.

This guy could bite the heads off of puppies on live TV and these people would love it.

Fortunately they are a small fringe. I hope.

[yellowcanine]

20. Of Course. But for Pubbie Politicians it will be "Bundy who?"

Suddenly no one will know what you are talking about.

[Mr.Bill]

21. They will act like that in public,

but eventually one or more of them will get caught in private on camera supporting him. If it happens while that Republican is running for president, it will be his or her 47% moment.

[madokie]

14. Only thing different is I thought they did the right thing to begin with

and for the very reasons you stated. Other than that I agree with you

[SoCalDem]

15. The only thing they did incorrectly was to wait TWENTY YEARS

After the 2nd missed payment, he should have been sent a registered letter stating that they had a lien against his "owned" property, and any subsidy he might be eligible for would be removed (you know guys like him apply for every "freebie" they can get)...and that ALL cattle sale monies earned would be taken in lieu of payment he owed.

Somewhere around year 3 or 4, he would have gotten the message..

Waiting 20 years was the problem..

[zeemike]

16. I think you jump to the conclusion you were wrong.

This is not over by a long shot...and I predict an assault on public land, and in fact it is already under way in Texas...

Amid Nevada Fight, Texas In Its Own Land Dispute With BLM

April 24, 2014 12:53 PM

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - A Texas land dispute has the outgoing governor and the Republican candidate favored to replace him decrying the same federal agency currently embroiled in an armed standoff in Nevada.

Gov. Rick Perry on Thursday accused the Bureau of Land Management of trying “to take private property” in Texas.

Attorney General Greg Abbott, now running for governor, has also expressed concern that federal authorities may eventually trample private property rights.

At issue is territory along the Red River that the Bureau of Land Management says is public land.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/04/24/amid-nevada-fight-texas-in-its-own-land-dispute-with-blm/

[MohRokTah]

17. The Texas thing is actually a border dispute between Texas and Oklahoma.

It's been ongoing for over a century.

The courts have made their rulings, there's a compact in place, and the BLM is the governing authority to iron out the differences, such as how Texas and Oklahoma have different legal definitions of avulsion.

[zeemike]

22. And now the BLM is the target

And appears weak...so Texas will win they think.
I'm sorry but when there is a perceived weakness the bullies will take every advantage of it and this is the start not the end.

[MohRokTah]

26. From what I've read, Texas probably should win.

The different definitions between Texas and Oklahoma set up a situation where the border could always move South, but would never move back North. This was mostly due to how Oklahoma defined avulsion legally and it's kind of a loophole in the Red River Boundary Compact. So Oklahoma lays claim to about 90,000 acres of land in Texas that they claim the border moved over during some flooding of the Red River, but that Texas does not recognize because it was due to flooding and cannot move the border.

[zeemike]

33. Never the less it will be transfered from BLM into private hands.

And that is what this is about...once the state owns it it will be sold to those that want it...those with political influnce.

[MohRokTah]

34. Actually, it should revert to the Texas ranchers who have current claim on the land.

The land has been deeded to ranchers in Texas and those ranchers have been paying taxes on the land, so under Texas law there should be no question as to who owns it. The only question is the loophole in the RRBC that allowed Oklahoma to be able to claim the land due to their lax definition of avulsion.

Of course, there's no way of know how this thing will turn out until the BLM completes the survey. I'm thinking there are portions of that land that actually are Oklahoma territory, part of an Indian reservation, or even federal land and that's what all the bluster is really about.

[snappyturtle]

44. I think folks here need to look at the big picture. Lots of BLM related land 'disputes'

going on...east of LA, southwest NM, NV, TX and gov't interference with fisheries on the east coast. I've done extensive reading and private lands and private land use are being gobbled up. Whether one likes or dislikes the Bundy family they are sort of the canary in the mine shaft imho. Of course, it's much easier to call the Bundys moochers etc....which is funny. Why has the gov't spent SOooo much $ to retrieve 1 million?

Personally, I'm tired of trying to educate....I just hope that minds will open and pay attention to what is going on around us. eom

[yellowcanine]

18. Yep. BLM gave the Bundyman some rope. And he used it. Dang.

I don't see how there could be a more fitting conclusion to this sordid circle jerk by the anti gubmint cabal.

[Ilsa]

23. BLM is handling Greg Abbott in Texas, too, over the

Surveying of land near the Red River that is federal or Indian property. Abbott is trying to politicize what the blm is doing: assessment and long term planning.

[maindawg]

28. Hilarious

They have once again exposed themselves as the asshats they all are. They own Bundy, he is their hero, hung around their necks like an albatross. I hope he gets his own show like the Duck idiots.

[joeybee12]

32. I agree...however, I was glad they backed down at the beginning...

The scum Bundy and his scum supporters were itching to pull the trigger...would have hated to see anyone (other than the militia and the Bundys) get hurt.

[Gothmog]

35. I do not understand why the BLM does not levy on Bundy's bank accounts

Every time Bundy sells any cattle, the BLM could levy on the auction house and capture the proceeds. In addition, levying on a bank account is easy.

[mainer]

39. That's what I would do. Suck up his capital

And empty his bank account. Destroy his credit rating. He won't be able to get a loan anywhere.

[1StrongBlackMan]

37. If more L/E were ...

less ego-driven, there would be far better results.

These clowns' only hope at having any impact in the real world is via martyrdom.

[3Stones]

38. Less than 2% of Texas is public land

http://theweek.com/article/index/260388/why-texas-republicans-may-want-to-cool-the-anti-obama-land-grab-talk