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To advance his extreme, hateful views, Bundy has endangered the lives of innocent women and children. This is not a game. It is the height of irresponsibility for any individual or entity in a position of power or influence to glorify or romanticize such a dangerous individual, and anyone who has done so should come to their senses and immediately condemn Bundy. For their part, national Republican leaders could help show a united front against this kind of hateful, dangerous extremism by publicly condemning Bundy.
The bottom line is that elected officials and those in positions of power or influence have a responsibility to unite behind the basic principle that we are a country of laws, and that whatever our differences, it is unacceptable for individuals to use violence or the threat of violence to advance their radical views."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/harry-reid-cliven-bundy-racist
When he's good he's so so good.
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)Go Vols
(5,902 posts)The Shoshone refused the money. They had not agreed to sell the land.
http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/04/18/how-did-i-miss-militia-god-gave-land-settlers-not-shoshone-154472
lastlib
(23,247 posts)Gothmog
(145,321 posts)Reid was correct to attack Bundy and his supporters
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)central scrutinizer
(11,652 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)tclambert
(11,087 posts)He's stealing from me, and I'm pissed about it.
Mr. Evil
(2,845 posts)I don't remember Cliven Bundy asking me if he could graze his cattle on my land! I demand my $0.0031545741324921 of a cent!
Nine
(1,741 posts)No it's not much when you divide it up among millions of taxpayers. Should we just forget about everyone who owes the government a million dollars?
Mr. Evil
(2,845 posts)What I was insinuating was if most everyone in this nation demanded he pay up then maybe he'd pay up and then shut up! All the other ranchers that graze on federal lands pays the fee per head. He's just another tea bagging crackpot that thinks he's special. And we also now know he's a blatant racist.
Just trying to be somewhat snarky in the earlier post. No offense.
SpankMe
(2,957 posts)Bandit
(21,475 posts)I will believe that when the Law is enforced. Until then we are no longer a nation of Law and Order. We are a nation of anything goes...Torture, Theft, Tax Evasion, LIES and more LIES.
If you make enough money then anything goes. Very important qualifier because rich folks don't do so well in prison.
Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)Well said, indeed.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Thank you, Senator Reid.
'Meritless' GOP Ethics Complaint Gives Reid More Oxygen To Trash Koch Bros
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024861440
freshwest
(53,661 posts)DamnYankeeInHouston
(1,365 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Blue Owl
(50,423 posts)okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)Well done, Harry. Oh my God, that was beautiful.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Not only is this land mooching piece of crap a racist but he's a LIAR!
Both sides are fighting over history, with federal courts denying Bundy's claims of "ancestral rights" on the Virgin River valley. The I-Team dug into century-old records to examine Bundy's claims.
At the Bunkerville camp next to Cliven Bundy's ranch, there are constant reminders of history.
Revolutionary War flags, ancient Greek mottos and native American symbols, all mixing together to create a growing identity and narrative for protestors.
This land is unusually fertile and green for southern Nevada. Cliven Bundy grows melons there. They are said to be the best in the state.
His cattle, until recently, roamed freely on land managed by the federal Bureau of Land Management. Before the roundup that sparked protests, confrontations and gunmen taking a bridge, Bundy explained his "ancestral rights" to the I-Team.
"I've lived my lifetime here. My forefathers have been up and down the Virgin Valley here ever since 1877. All these rights that I claim, have been created through pre-emptive rights and beneficial use of the forage and the water and the access and range improvements," Bundy said.
Clark County property records show Cliven Bundy's parents bought the 160 acre ranch in 1948 from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt.
Water rights were transferred too, but only to the ranch, not the federally managed land surrounding it. Court records show Bundy family cattle didn't start grazing on that land until 1954.
The Bureau of Land Management was created 1946, the same year Cliven was born.
"My rights are before the BLM even existed, but my rights are created by beneficial use. Beneficial use means we created the forage and the water from the time the very first pioneers come here," Bundy said.
Early census records show Cliven's maternal grandmother, Christena Jensen, was born in Nevada in 1901 (other records show she was born in 1891 as Abigail Christina Abbott).
One word spreading through Bundy supporters and his armed guards is that what the federal government is doing to Bundy is exactly what they did to native Americans.
"They are literally treating western United States citizens, ranchers, rural folks like this- are the modern day Indians. We're being driven off of our lands. We're being forced into reservations known as cities," Justin Giles, an Oathkeeper from Alaska, said.
The local Paiute Indians were forced into reservations by federal troops in 1875. Two years prior, the tribe was promised the same land Cliven Bundy now grows his melons ,and until recently, grazed his cattle.
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25301551/bundys-ancestral-rights-come-under-scrutiny
malaise
(269,054 posts)They will never learn. Give them a knock out punch Harry!
amuse bouche
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All the signs are there
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)The most decrepit thing about Bundy for me is that he has 14 children. Wonder how many of them have been brainwashed by this loon. What a great example Pa has been. NOT!