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ck4829

(35,077 posts)
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 12:47 PM Apr 2014

First Newt Gingrich, now Pat Robertson warns of the impending Islamo-Atheist takeover

Today on the 700 Club, Pat Robertson pointed to British Prime Minister David Cameron’s recent description of the United Kingdom as a “Christian country” as a source of hope against the Islamist-atheist hordes attacking America.

“This nonsense about separation of church and state has gotten way, way beyond the bounds of what the Founders of our Constitution thought,” Robertson said. “We’re under assault by militant Islamists, militant atheists, secularists, those who want to destroy all of the fabric of faith in our society.”

Later in the program, the televangelist warned that “there are people representing the Muslim Brotherhood who are in the highest councils of the security apparatus of the United States of America advising our leaders as to how to deal with terrorism. Nonsense.”

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/pat-robertson-fears-islamist-atheist-takeover-america

And what Newt Gingrich said in 2011...

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/newt-gingrich-america-in-danger-of-becoming-atheist-islamic-country

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NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
2. which is it, Islamists or Atheists? Doesn't being one excluded you from the other?
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 12:52 PM
Apr 2014

...kinda like those raging meat eating Vegans?

And no, we don't want to "destroy the fabric of faith in our society", we (atheists) just happen to think that you Fundies are totally batshit insane and are a danger to others and yourselves. We want you to keep your religious mitts off our lives, laws, and bodies.

4. Fundamentalist Muslims hate Atheists far more than they hate Christians.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 12:54 PM
Apr 2014

I don't think this alliance is gonna work.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
6. Their assertions are total non-sense.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 12:59 PM
Apr 2014

I doubt the either of those men really believe what they are saying.

Personally, I've never heard of a "militant atheist".

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
9. Really? Let me introduce myself.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 01:02 PM
Apr 2014

I'm an atheist, and I think that the overreach of religion into civil society means that it needs to be militantly* opposed.

Richard Dawkins is an excellent (self-proclaimed) spokesman for militant atheism.

*"Militant" of course being idiomatic, not literal.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
14. I interpreted the word "militant" to literally mean militant.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 01:20 PM
Apr 2014

Personally, I'm very concerned about the "overreach of religion into civil society". Everything about it is wrong and dangerous.
But, I believe that atheists who describe themselves as "self-proclaimed" advocate of militant atheism would probably do more harm than good toward changing the existing wrongs.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
17. You aren't disagreeing with me because I said nothing negative about the man
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 01:31 PM
Apr 2014

Richard Dawkins. I've never heard of him and he may very well be "great".

If you mean that my statement about the chances of a "militant atheist" actually causing real change in the aggressiveness of
the Religious Right into politics then we simply have a case of two different opinions. I wish you and Mr. Dawkins well in your
political struggles.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
8. ...Islamo-atheism? "There is no god but Allah, and no Allah either"?
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 01:01 PM
Apr 2014

I think this proves that "the enemy of my enemy must be my friend" is nonsense:

I wouldn't like to take bets on which two of Robertson, Anjem Choudary and I despise one another's views the most, but there's no love lost in any direction.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. Pat pushing FUD, his bread and butter.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 01:03 PM
Apr 2014

As an agnostic, I do hope there is a literal hell...makes me feel better knowing Pat has a special place to go and rot for all eternity.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
11. Why won't he hurry up and die?
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 01:07 PM
Apr 2014

My faith has absolutely no problem praying for evil-doers to die and Pat is pretty high on my list.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
12. Everyone should want Pat & Newt's "religion" destroyed.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 01:13 PM
Apr 2014

Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, adherents of Shinto, agnostics, and atheists (militant and otherwise) each represent a more functional worldview than the terrifyingly stupid theocracy people like Pat and Newt and Hucklebee are proposing.

To the extent Christianity actually is losing any power in America, it's because people this are telling everyone they worship a god who hates everyone and lies about everything.

Nobody's going to worship that guy.

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