GOP rats jumping ship from the good ship SS Cliven Bundy

[ProSense]

GOP rats jumping ship from the good ship SS Cliven Bundy

by MTmofo

The rush for the microphones to backpedal from Bundy should prove interesting as the week closes. Vannity, of course, will be last one to disembark.

As we learned from Sam Loomis' diary earlier, the Bundenberger has a few more thoughts to share on "the Negroes".

The rush for the exits has started.

Later in the article in Sam's diary:

A spokesman for Mr. Paul, informed of Mr. Bundy’s remarks, said the senator was not available for immediate comment. Chandler Smith, a spokesman for Mr. Heller, said that the senator “completely disagrees with Mr. Bundy’s appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way.” A spokeswoman for Mr. Abbott, Laura Bean, said that the letter he wrote “was regarding a dispute in Texas and is in no way related to the dispute in Nevada.”

FromRaw Story:

The remarks brought about a quick rebuke from Chandler Smith, a spokesperson for Sen. Dean Heller (R-NV). Heller had previously called Bundy and his supporters “patriots” for their actions and challenged Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-NV) description of them as “domestic terrorists.”

Smith told the Times that Heller “completely disagrees with Mr. Bundy’s appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way.”

Bundy’s speech also seemingly derailed Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott’s (R) apparent attempt to link his gubernatorial campaign to the Bunkerville camp; Abbott had allegedly written a letter to the BLM accusing it of “threatening” to seize land along the Red River in northern Texas. But after being contacted regarding the rancher’s “Negro” remarks, a spokesperson for Abbott was quoted as saying that Abbott’s letter “was regarding a dispute in Texas and is in no way related to the dispute in Nevada.”

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/24/1294242/-GOP-rats-jumping-ship-from-the-good-ship-SS-Cliven-Bundy

Cliven Bundy: “I Want to Tell You About The Negro"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024863780

EXPOSED: The Source Of Cliven Bundy's Crackpot Constitutionalism
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024851227

[JustAnotherGen]

1. Too late

Any one of them that gave him props and held him up - They have to own it. No jumping ship. He's your 'guy' - stick with him cowards.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

44. So true. In fact, their names should be made public daily nt

[malaise]

2. What is Hannity saying since

"I want to tell you about the Negro".
Can't wait for Jon Stewart's Part 2 on this one.

[toddwv]

21. Yeah. I'm glad it's thursday and not friday.

Should be worth quite a few laughs tonight.

[Archae]

48. Hannity condemns Bundy's remarks, but...

"Lib'ruls duz it too!"

Sean Hannity on Bundy ‘Negro’ Remarks: ‘Beyond Repugnant to Me’

Sean Hannity reacted to Cliven Bundy‘s slavery remarks at the top of his radio show Thursday, making it clear he finds them unequivocally repugnant and horrible, but also calling out Democrats for racially insensitive remarks made on the left that were never condemned or rebuked.

Hannity admitted he’s incredibly “pissed off” about the whole thing, saying, “His comments are beyond repugnant to me. They are beyond despicable to me. They are beyond ignorant to me.” He said that plenty of conservatives have been supporting Bundy’s case because of sincere beliefs about eminent domain abuse but now they’ll all be “branded because of the ignorant, racist, repugnant, despicable comments by Cliven Bundy.”

Hannity cried, “Every conservative that I know does not support racism, period!” He said liberals “get a pass” for this sort of thing, but made it clear unlike hypocrites on the left, “I find it repugnant no matter who it comes from.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/sean-hannity-on-bundy-negro-remarks-beyond-repugnant-to-me/

[calimary]

73. sean, sweetheart, YOU climbed into bed with him. Now he gets to fuck you!

YOU did this all by your widdle self! NOBODY held a gun to your head and made you embrace him. You did that all by your widdle self. With bells on and brass bands and Pox Noise bells and gongs behind you. You wouldn't have listened to us anyway, even if we warned you away from it. Hell, some of us actually DID warn you away from it. But as usual, you take what WE say with a grain of salt the size of bunny's racism. You pay attention to what WE say - not at all. You heed OUR warnings and advisories - not at all. OUR words have no merit with you. OUR views on things don't count with you. Too bad for you, then, that WE are the ones who invariably turn out to be - um, dare I say it - "right"!

[DonViejo]

3. I'm hoping Bundy just keeps running at the mouth...

dragging all his supporters, e.g. Hannity, Fox and any elected official that has supported him, down the ceramic bowl. This hate filled monster is beyond contempt, as are his supporters.

[ProSense]

4. Rand Paul Steps Away From Bundy: 'I Wholeheartedly Disagree'

Rand Paul Steps Away From Bundy: 'I Wholeheartedly Disagree'

U.S. Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) sought to distance himself Thursday from Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy after the latter's racially charged comments.

"His remarks on race are offensive and I wholeheartedly disagree with him," Paul told Business Insider in a statement.

Bundy had openly wondered last weekend if black people had been "better off slaves" in comments reported Wednesday by the New York Times.

Paul had offered some support for Bundy's cause in earlier remarks about the rancher's standoff with the federal government, criticizing the armed federal presence.

“The federal government shouldn’t violate the law, nor should we have 48 federal agencies carrying weapons and having SWAT teams," Paul had said.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rand-paul-cliven-bundy-racist-comments

What you didn't know the crackpot deadbeat you supported was a racist? Maybe you're too dumb to be a Senator.

[WhiteTara]

33. I'm beginning to see why the feds had had enough

of this piece of work. It's starting to appear that others are waking to his nasty nature and that he owes us money.

[mikeargo]

59. Hell, his dad is a crackpot deadbeat

[freshwest]

61. Ain't buying that for a minute! n/t

[Jamaal510]

65. This.

"What you didn't know the crackpot deadbeat you supported was a racist? Maybe you're too dumb to be a Senator."

[calimary]

69. EXCELLENT!!!

YOU climbed into bed with him, randy-boy. Now he gets to fuck you!

But as we've seen, there's plenty more evidence of him being too dumb to be a Senator. Where does one start, really?

[ProSense]

5. Steve Benen:

Political figures who rallied to defend Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy must have known they were taking a risk. Indeed, much of the Republican establishment chose to do the exact opposite precisely because they were afraid to gamble on a man who doesn’t recognize the legitimacy of the United States government.

But some prominent GOP officials rolled the dice anyway. Fox News and Glenn Beck celebrated the rancher as a hero, while U.S. senators like Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Dean Heller (R-Nev.) cheered Bundy on, calling him a “patriot,” even as he declared an ability to ignore laws and court orders he doesn’t like.

It’s become increasingly difficult to maintain this posture. For one thing, anyone relying on the threat of violence to act above the law hasn’t earned the backing of anyone in the American mainstream. For another, some of the basic elements of Bundy’s claims now appear to be false.

<...>

Frankly, it was pretty obvious before that federal lawmakers like Rand Paul and Dean Heller were making a huge mistake rallying behind Bundy. When it comes to choosing a proper cause celebre, it’s best not to choose a man who’s said, “I don’t recognize [the] United States government as even existing,” and whose supporters appeared prepared for a confrontation – a potentially violent confrontation – with American law enforcement.

- more -

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/bundy-i-want-tell-you-one-more-thing

IOW, they were dumbasses for jumping on this lunatic's bandwagon.

[mountain grammy]

12. Actually, Jon Stewart showed a clip of Beck denouncing Bundy

with the comment that if Beck is the voice of reason in this case, what does that show about the foxheads calling him a hero?

[ProSense]

14. It means

"Actually, Jon Stewart showed a clip of Beck denouncing Bundy with the comment that if Beck is the voice of reason in this case, what does that show about the foxheads calling him a hero?"

...Beck is an irrational asshole and he made "the foxheads" look like irrational assholes.

Meet the man who changed Glenn Beck’s life
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024851227#post4

[Beartracks]

41. “patriots” ignoring laws and court orders they don't like... Sheesh.

The Founding Fathers and fellow colonists didn't fight to create an anarchic state, no matter how much the Teabaggers fantasize about that.

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[calimary]

70. And ironically enough, these are the same people who profess to hate those who "want free stuff."

Well, whaddya call THIS asshole, 'eh? Seems to me cliven bundy certainly wants free stuff. For heaven's sake, he feels ENTITLED to it!

[sheshe2]

6. No, it's to late to take it back.

The stink is all over each and everyone of them. They own their remarks.

[catbyte]

7. A spokeswoman for Mr. Abbott, Laura Bean, said that the letter

he wrote “was regarding a dispute in Texas and is in no way related to the dispute in Nevada.”

So is she trying to say that Bundy only hates Texas minorities & not those in Nevada?

[Orrex]

10. Yeah, he only wanted to tell us about the Texas Negro.

He has no comment about the Nevada Negro.

[catbyte]

20. I know! It's so lame, right?

[Tarheel_Dem]

36. DUZY!!!

[DhhD]

32. Abbott was trying to stir up trouble in Texas as being an attorney he already knows that the land

in the Red River is in no way federal lands. And in no way does the federal government seize state riverbeds or private lands as their is a tax system in place using deeds in both states. And congress has already settled this issue with a public law. Now is he going to continue to lie to the public using the letter he made up, wrote and sent to the federal government? Many Texans are embarrassed by the delusional behavior of its, Oops GOP crowd.

It seems as though Abbott is just a bad attorney. In Texas, it can be said that his decision here to write such a letter is another mistake in his long list of sorry decision making in Texas.

[rurallib]

8. They aren't backing away from condoning his theft

and talk of insurrection.
Fucking hypocrites

[spanone]

9. not faux....there is no mention of mr bundy's assessment of 'the negro' on their website

i guess if they don't report it, it didn't happen....

[randr]

11. Hatred poisons the heart

and the effects become evident in the afflicted actions and words.

[TRoN33]

13. Clive Bundy really thought he got carte Blanche...

To criticize and taking down African-American people and promote the return of slavery?!? He is a fucking millionaire on welfare and he got balls to talk about slavery?!

[Ilsa]

15. We blew it.

We should have allowed more repukes to align themselves with this domestic terrorist before outing him on his thievery, lies about his family being there for 100+ years, and now his bigotry. The backpedaling would have been so entertaining and destructive to 2014 gop campaigns.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

27. actually, the timing is perfect.

The story is still on the minds of people, and finding out that he is a racist, law-breaking, lying POS loon, especially now, is great.

[calimary]

71. AND it sits and marinates at leisure - ALL WEEKEND LONG!!!

So that means it's Topic A at all the Sunday blather shows. And the soundbites from there will permeate All Things Monday Morning. You want it to steep like a big bag of tea in hot water! Hmmmm - there certainly are metaphors galore tucked in with that one, aren't there!?!

[ChairmanAgnostic]

72. Tucked in like ham and eggs.

Heck, I may even turn on that wit of nit Gregory.

naw. Can't do it.

[calimary]

74. Or like Green Eggs and Ham!

[ChairmanAgnostic]

75. Is that you, Sam?

[calimary]

76. I am!

[ChairmanAgnostic]

77. LOL!

A smile was much needed, and I thank you.

[calimary]

79. Smile, 'eh?

[IMG][/IMG]

I call this one "well, haven't you wondered?"

[ProSense]

16. Ta-Nehisi Coates

<...>

A couple days ago Jonathan Chait asserted that modern conservatism is "doomed" because it is "rooted in white supremacy." The first claim may or may not be true, but there's little doubt about the second. Whether it's the Senate minority leader claiming that America should have remained legally segregated, a beloved cultural figure fondly recalling how happy black people were living under lynch law, a presidential candidate calling Barack Obama a "food-stamp president," or a campaign surrogate calling Barack Obama "a subhuman mongrel," the preponderance of evidence shows that modern conservatism just can't quit white supremacy.

This is unsurprising. White supremacy is one of the most dominant forces in the history of American politics. In a democracy, it would be silly to expect it to go unexpressed. Thus anyone with a sense of American history should be equally unsurprised to discover that rugged individualist Cliven Bundy is the bearer of some very interesting theories:

<...>

Prick a movement built on white supremacy and it bleeds ... white supremacy. That said, I think it's always worth clarifying what we mean when we use words like "slavery" and "freedom" in an American context.

<...>

When people like Cliven Bundy assert the primacy of the past it is important that we do not recount it selectively. American enslavement is the destruction of the black body for profit. That is the past that Cliven Bundy believes "the Negro" to have been better off in. He is, regrettably, not alone.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/04/cliven-bundy-wants-to-tell-you-all-about-the-negro/361152/

[tclambert]

17. So his racism will trip him up, not his outright theft of taxpayer property.

That's MY GRASS his damn cows were eating. Feeding his cows is his business. And he wants to run his business free of charge by taking MY PROPERTY.

[toddwv]

22. Only because he said it publicly.

You can bet that quite a few of the same people who supported his actions also have not actual problems with his racist statements, but that kind of stuff should be kept to back rooms and off the mic.

[NewJeffCT]

29. You're right

Saying it in public was his "mistake" You can be damn sure there are many that agree with him, but just don't say it out loud.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

18. Most teabaggers and right wingers are not retreating

I dunno’ they sound pretty honest and on target to me.
A lot better than anything that Royal Meeker guy said about the breed.
4 posted on Thursday, April 24, 2014 11:07:58 AM by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)

To: GIdget2004
So...what's wrong with Mr. Bundy’s remarks?
Republicans are gutless wonders.
7 posted on Thursday, April 24, 2014 11:08:37 AM by fatnotlazy

To: GIdget2004
He’s right, not “delicate”, but right.
The former slaves and their descendants steadily improved their lives over a period of decades after the war. By 1900 they had a solid middle class in many cities and once the racist grip of the democrat party was broken in the early 60s everything opened up for them. Unfortunately that same year LBJ with the help of JJ and company sold blacks a huge turd that enslaved them again to the democrat party and took away most of their economic and social gains.
I don’t feel sorry for any of them anymore. Their ancestors pulled them away from the shadow of slavery and then they jumped right back into the democrat shit pit and blame conservatives for it.
Too many of them think they’re africans; ship their sorry asses back to their “motherland”. My sympathy for majority of them is long gone.
27 posted on Thursday, April 24, 2014 11:18:31 AM by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)

To: GIdget2004
He’s 100% correct.
More people need to say it!!
32 posted on Thursday, April 24, 2014 11:21:27 AM by dalereed

To: Drango
“Seriously? Who talks like that today?”
I do and I don’t give a rats ass what anyone thinks!!
If someone is offended by the truth tough shit!
40 posted on Thursday, April 24, 2014 11:24:45 AM by dalereed

[951-Riverside]

43. This is great news. I hope to see a ton of skinheads and nazi flags flying there soon

The more they defend, the more this guy speaks, the better off we will all be.

[Iliyah]

19. Come the freak on

The racist GOPers didn't know he was a racist too? I call that bullshit, bullshit on top of bullshit and anyone who can think right would have known that from the beginning.

[stopbush]

23. Say what you will about Bundy, he's a model Republican.

The hypocrisy and racism sealed the deal.

[merrily]

28. Republicans admit that the federal government exists,

especially when they want something from it, like a war or a grant.

Bundy takes what he wants from the federal government, while refusing to admit it exists.

Subtle difference, I know, but it's there.

Kind of there, anyway, because also likened himself to the Founding Fathers, while seeming to deny that they had founded anything.

[stopbush]

30. Apparently, Bundy doesn't believe that the state government exists either.

He's a law unto himself.

BTW - I read that the fed rate for grazing cattle is $1.30 a head. The NV state rate is $15. He won't pay the feds because he doesn't recognize them. But if the land isn't the feds, it's the state's. Why hasn't he been sending $ to the state of NV?

[ProSense]

24. Conservative Pundit Dana Loesch: All Bundy Needed Was Some Media Training!

Conservative Pundit Dana Loesch: All Bundy Needed Was Some Media Training!

Conservative radio host Dana Loesch believes Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy just needs a little media training.

In a blog post published Thursday, Loesch argued that "the left" is unfairly seizing upon Bundy's remarks about blacks in an attempt to link his anti-government activism to racism.

<...>

Loesch conceded that those remarks sounded "offensive" when taken at face value, but then defended Bundy as being merely inarticulate -- "an old man rancher isn’t media trained to express himself perfectly," she wrote. She further suggested Bundy really meant to condemn "what big government has done to the black family."

Even if the comments were racist, Loesch argued, the fact that the Times reached out to Republican politicians who previously supported the rancher for responses proved "the left's outrage" over the remarks was in itself disingenuous.

"If Bundy is a racist, that is awful, but what exactly does that have to do with the BLM?" she wrote. "I’ve been saying for weeks that this isn’t about one rancher. It’s about government overreach. It’s about a paramilitarized bureaucratic entity responding to collect a bill in dispute due to arguments over state ownership and open range laws."

"Does Cliven Bundy’s remark make Tommy Henderson, Raymond Yowell, Kenni Patton, and other ranchers in Nevada and north Texas racists then because they also have issues with the BLM? So dissent with the BLM is racist like dissent with Obamacare is racist?" she continued. "Again, this isn’t about one person, but the left would love for it to be so."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/dana-loesch-cliven-bundy-race-comments

[Tarheel_Dem]

35. Media training? Yup, that's the cure for what ails Cliven Bundy. They're in desperation mode now.

[alcibiades_mystery]

37. What's the media trained way of saying "The Negroes woulda been better off as slaves picking cotton

and growing them turnips"?

I'm curious about the way that gets translated into something NOT unspeakably racist and awful.

[ProSense]

40. Yeah, he just needs to learn how to spin his racism.

Despicable fucks.

[Number23]

46. "If Bundy is a racist, that is awful, but what exactly does that have to do with the BLM?"

If?

"So dissent with the BLM is racist like dissent with Obamacare is racist?" she continued."

It's just ALL COMING OUT. They simply CANNOT help themselves.

[Richardo]

58. ... and Benghazi?

[Dawson Leery]

55. She along with the National Review are not backing down.

They are doing everything they can to deflect from the truth.

Based upon this, it is fair to say the National Review and Townhall as well as Loesch endorse Mr. Bundy's beliefs and tactics.

[ThoughtCriminal]

56. Nobody taught him Dogwhistlese?

I bet they plan better next time.

[Jamaal510]

66. He's fluent in Wingnutese, at least,

but that's apparently not enough for the Dumb Bundy Bunny.

[wyldwolf]

25. Thank you ProSense

My life has gotten to where I don't have near the time I used to have to spend on DU. I often zero in on your posts to fill me in on what's going on in politics.

[merrily]

26. the good ship Clive Bundy

Obviousy, that "p" is a typo.

[lykemike]

31. Color me shocked

The question I have is: does this mean Bundy'll soon be getting checks from the honorable Rupy Murdoch? Fits the profile...

[Tarheel_Dem]

34. There's a reason why the Cliven Bundy(s) of the world are attracted to Libertarianism, and the Pauls

I hope it won't be too long before the country figures out that the shit we're seeing in NV, and the militia movements nationwide has it roots in Libertarianism.

[Number23]

47. TELL IT.

There's a reason why the Cliven Bundy(s) of the world are attracted to Libertarianism, and the Pauls

You KNOW that's the truth. And it ain't all just right wing ranchers in Nevada.

[Tarheel_Dem]

49. "And it ain't all just right wing ranchers in Nevada."

You got that right.

[marew]

38. Makes one wonder...

If my husband told me he was ready to use me as a human shield... Obviously no one in that crowd is very bright!

[Gothmog]

39. Has Hannity commented on the latest comments by Bundy?

[High_Voltage]

42. Yes...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024866181

[Kingofalldems]

45. That's Harry Reid.

[Takket]

50. I'm sick of hearing about everything Bundy is doing wrong

I want to start hearing about what is going to be DONE about it. WHEN is he going to prison????????????

[Number23]

51. This is the first time in months that the front page of DEMOCRATIC Underground is covered with news

about how craven, stupid, uninformed and insane REPUBLICANS are. Ain't it grand?

K&R

[nikto]

52. Who is "The Negro"?

Is there just one?

Is it male or female?

Why is only 1 "Negro" such a problem?


I don't understand.

[Richardo]

57. ok I laughed

[uponit7771]

78. +1

[Cha]

54. K

[Logical]

60. Even a Kick from me for this one! nt

[blkmusclmachine]

62. The Republican Party still believes in Bundy's tirade. EVERY. SINGLE. WORD. OF. IT.

[Chathamization]

63. They're upset he didn't use the dogwhistle. The substance is pretty similar to what Paul Ryan said

recently (and what the party line has been for decades), but Bundy forgot to present it as "these lazy 'inner city people' *wink* *wink*".

[Skittles]

64. fact is if Mr. Bundy was black, none of these rightwing bastards would be on his side

THEY'RE ALL RACIST!!!

[intheflow]

67. Who cares? We all know he's a moron, when will the government get its taxes?

So he's fallen from grace as a RW darling. Doesn't negate the fact that he should be in jail for tax evasion. His comments are a news diversion for his crimes.

[KansDem]

68. The "Good Ship" SS Cliven Bundy?

It should be "garbage scow"