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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 12:13 AM Apr 2014

Stock Splits

When a stock splits it is sometimes reported as news.

This is much like the way black friday sales are sometimes reported as news.

Neither one is news, but they both constitute a sort of feel-good corporate fake news that people seem to enjoy.

If a stock worth $400/share splits, each share of stock becomes two shares of stock, each worth.... drum-roll... $200.

Nothing. Changes. The percentage of the company represented by all its stock remains the same. If you owned 5% of the company, after the stock splits you have twice as many game-pieces but you still own 5% of the company. It's the same value.

It is much like the Yogi Berra line when a pizzeria asked if he wanted them to cut the pie into four pieces or six pieces, said, "Four. I don't think I'm hungry enough to eat six pieces."

So why do stocks split? Stocks are usually traded in blocks of 100 shares, and you want that standard minimum trade to remain a manageable amount of money. Helps keep the stock liquid.

On the other hand, Warren Buffet's company Berkshire-Hathaway intentionally did not split as a prestige thing. They wanted a guady, intimidating price. I have no idea what BH sells for today, but IIRC it used to be like a hundred thousand dollars a share or more.

Anyway, when Apple's stock splits, nobody is getting something for nothing. And if the market capitalization of Apple goes up as a result of the split it is due to psychology, and nothing more.

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Brother Buzz

(36,442 posts)
10. Interesting, Berkshire Hathaway Class A stocks have never split
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 12:44 AM
Apr 2014

Warren Buffett bought in at just under twelve dollars a share, today it closed at 190,800.00

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
2. Out of curiousity, I just googled it and Berkshire-Hathaway is trading at $190,800.00/share
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 12:24 AM
Apr 2014
http://www.google.com/finance?cid=4376

I had no idea. It's good to learn something new everyday.
 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
7. I remember looking at it back in the 1970s
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 12:36 AM
Apr 2014

and I said to myself who the heck is crazy enough to pay six hundred dollars for this stock??

 

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
5. It is news in that a company is not going to do a stock split unless they feel the price will
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 12:28 AM
Apr 2014

continue a sustained increase.
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. While I agree with the valuation at the time of the split, it often works to increase share price
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 12:34 AM
Apr 2014

over time. Markets aren't always rational.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
9. Yes, for psychological and liquidity reasons it does typically increase market cap, despite
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 12:40 AM
Apr 2014

the fact that it does not make the company any more valuable.

I agree that markets are often not rational. They are, however, excellent at pricing. After all, what else could possibly price in aggregate irrational impulses?

Liberal In Texas

(13,556 posts)
8. Stock splits are sometimes just psychological.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 12:36 AM
Apr 2014

Oooh, our company is doing good, so the 400 to 200 seems just the same, but now the psychology of the market being what it is, the stock price rises making it more than 200.

I think that's what's behind it a lot of the time. Of course sometimes it fails. And the stock goes down. Such is the market, just a different form of gambling.

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