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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 02:46 PM Apr 2014

I doubt most people have much of a notion of science one way or another

Last edited Tue Apr 22, 2014, 04:19 PM - Edit history (2)

We always see polling on whether people think the world was created 6,000 years ago or came into being 13,600,000,000 years ago.

To most folks those are both just really long spans of time that can be summed up as "forever ago."

The belief that the world is only a few thousand years old is not actually deeply stupid until you contextualize it somehow. Think through, scientifically, what that would mean if true. Absent context, it is merely a wrong answer.

So much of the national "denial" of science is probably better described as indifference to science. To deny something one would have to know something about it to even get to the level of denial.

But folks who cling to scientific absurdity despite knowing the objections (scientific creationism, for example) are just nuts.

It is fine to think that Noah put all the species of animals on the Ark as long as you don't have a good sense of how many species of animal there are. (And thus always were! No evolution.)

It is only when you know how many species there are and then try to rationalize ways for the Ark to hold them all that it becomes lunacy. (Versus indifference and ignorance.)

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I doubt most people have much of a notion of science one way or another (Original Post) cthulu2016 Apr 2014 OP
Well said! n/t Silent3 Apr 2014 #1
The US is the most religious western nation out there RainDog Apr 2014 #2
"Transference of fear and self-loathing to an authoritarian vessel. Maedhros Apr 2014 #5
you'll appreciate this... RainDog Apr 2014 #10
Graduated high school "university entrance" chem and physics with As, if you were curious Electric Monk Apr 2014 #3
Not at all! Inspired by the recent poll on American scientific knowledge. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #4
13,600,000,000,000 years ago? Not likely. FarCenter Apr 2014 #6
A few too many aughts, ey? cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #7
I agree. It's often not skepticism, but just a lack of information. Not everyone learns pnwmom Apr 2014 #8
IDK RobertEarl Apr 2014 #9

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
2. The US is the most religious western nation out there
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 02:51 PM
Apr 2014

This impacts the level of science education in this nation, if you compare science literacy in the US to other western nations.

The reason so many Americans don't believe the earth is 4.5 billion years old is b/c of the influence of religious stupidity throughout American culture.

It has to do with competing narratives.

Religion doesn't require facts in order to propagandize people - and the negative effects of this propaganda are woven throughout American culture - our politics included.

The worst thing for any American, in terms of education, is exposure to religious fundamentalism as an approved view of life.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
5. "Transference of fear and self-loathing to an authoritarian vessel.
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 03:50 PM
Apr 2014

It's catharsis. He absorbs their dread with his narrative. Because of this, he's effective in proportion to the amount of certainty he can project. Certain linguistic anthropologists think that religion is a language virus that rewrites pathways in the brain. Dulls critical thinking."

- Rustin Cohle, True Detective

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
3. Graduated high school "university entrance" chem and physics with As, if you were curious
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 02:51 PM
Apr 2014

since this seems inspired by my "where is the line between woo and bad science? Is Pradaxa woo?" thread.

pnwmom

(108,987 posts)
8. I agree. It's often not skepticism, but just a lack of information. Not everyone learns
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 04:20 PM
Apr 2014

everything in school, or retains everything they were taught.

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