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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 03:18 PM Apr 2014

US marshal shoots defendant in federal court

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — A U.S. marshal shot and critically wounded a defendant on Monday in a new federal courthouse in Salt Lake City after the man rushed at a witness with a pen, authorities said.

Defendant Siale Angilau, 24, was hospitalized with at least one chest wound, FBI spokesman Mark Dressen said. Under standard procedures, Angilau was not restrained in the courtroom, the FBI said.

Perry Caldwell, who was in the courtroom with his adult daughter, said Angilau was shot several times as he lunged toward the witness stand and tried to strike the witness.

At least six shots were fired, he said.


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/shooting-reported-federal-courthouse-utah

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TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
2. Jeebus H Monkeyspankin Keerist
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 03:26 PM
Apr 2014

Nothing about this situation was "good".

Was the shot necessary? Probably. But by no stretch of decency could it be called "good".

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
4. The phrase "good shoot" refers to one as justified.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 03:34 PM
Apr 2014

Also, it was a good shoot as no one else but the suspect was hit.

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
8. I hate the term, "good shoot." There is no such thing.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 03:45 PM
Apr 2014

It may be justified, but never good. I know what the term means, but I hate it.

Hosnon

(7,800 posts)
12. That's simply denying multiple definitions of the word "good".
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 04:20 PM
Apr 2014

OP didn't make a moral judgment ("good" vs. "bad&quot , but an effectiveness one ("good" vs. "poor&quot .

A genocide can be "good" in the sense that it is more effective than other genocides.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
6. You can thank hollywood / burbank for the impression that..
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 03:42 PM
Apr 2014

1) A shot throws a person back like a punch to the gut, and
2) A single shot is all it takes to stop someone.

Free dose of reality: sometimes it takes more than one shot to stop someone determined to hurt someone. The force of impact of a shot is no more than the force of the recoil to the shooter.

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
9. A fucking pen can kill a person just as dead as a knife or a gun or a bat.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 04:00 PM
Apr 2014

A pen to the throat, eye, nose, heart, stomach can kill.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
16. Definitely constitutes an imminent threat to life when wielded as a weapon
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 04:42 PM
Apr 2014

My local TV news last night reported an attack at a UCLA med center in which a nurse was stabbed in the ear--by a man wielding a pencil.

And in the category of weird news, we had an incident at my local movie theater a few years ago in which a moviegoer was stabbed with a meat thermometer.

 

Marshall III

(69 posts)
10. Perhaps the prisoner felt that the court was trampling on his age old claim to free federal land.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 04:13 PM
Apr 2014

Are we sure that law enforcement did not overreact?

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
14. I have to agree with thw others
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 04:33 PM
Apr 2014

on this thread who posted that this was a good shoot. I'm glad nobody other than the perp were injured.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
15. Update: Man dies after being shot by marshal while attacking witness in Utah federal courthouse
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 04:36 PM
Apr 2014

#BREAKING @AP #FBI: Man dies after being shot by marshal while attacking witness in Utah federal courthouse.

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