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LuckyTheDog

(6,837 posts)
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 02:10 PM Apr 2014

Pope blasts ‘immense wastefulness’ in Easter address


VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis, in his Easter address before a huge crowd, on Sunday denounced the "immense wastefulness" in the world while many go hungry and called for an end to conflicts in Syria, Ukraine and Africa.

"We ask you, Lord Jesus, to put an end to all war and every conflict, whether great or small, ancient or recent," he said in his "Urbi et Orbi" (to the city and the world) message.

Francis, marking the second Easter season of his pontificate, celebrated a Mass to an overflowing crowd of at least 150,000 in St. Peter's Square and beyond.

The crowd stretched back along all of Via della Conciliazione, the boulevard between the Vatican and the Tiber River.


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Pope blasts ‘immense wastefulness’ in Easter address (Original Post) LuckyTheDog Apr 2014 OP
People in Glass Houses shouldn't throw Stones itsrobert Apr 2014 #1
Stained Glass Houses in Particular. MineralMan Apr 2014 #3
But this new pope is forgoing lots of the bling that the last pope had. nt alp227 Apr 2014 #14
He says, speaking from a balcony in MineralMan Apr 2014 #2
I kinda like the guy Riftaxe Apr 2014 #13
Perhaps you are only hearing the messages you like. MineralMan Apr 2014 #15
Meaning it is a message with out merit? Riftaxe Apr 2014 #19
What a morally vacant human being this man is. He himself is responsible for much conflict Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #4
It is a great message etherealtruth Apr 2014 #5
Here's a cute link, Diocese of Honolulu's Land Asset Management Office Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author etherealtruth Apr 2014 #12
You disagree with the Pope and Catholic church you do not find this message meaningful? etherealtruth Apr 2014 #11
Ugandan Catholic Easter Message Calls for Genocide of Gays Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #20
You are really painting with a broad brush etherealtruth Apr 2014 #23
Maybe the Vatican should heed its own advice. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #6
Glad to see the Catholics have finally gotten back on message. McCamy Taylor Apr 2014 #7
his church is an extortion racket, fleecing the poor. sell the art collection francis nt msongs Apr 2014 #9
They could keep the art, if they just sold off the commercial real estate it would generate Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #10
Exactly. 99Forever Apr 2014 #16
It would have been a good time to toss the Ugandan church out on its ass seveneyes Apr 2014 #17
Whether you believe or not, a positive message is a positive message. Avalux Apr 2014 #18
Do you also like it when he says LGBT rights are a machination of the devil? Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #21
Like I said, I don't agree with everything. Please don't attack me like that. Avalux Apr 2014 #22

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
1. People in Glass Houses shouldn't throw Stones
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 02:15 PM
Apr 2014

The Catholic Church scolding others on wastefulness. Too funny.

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
2. He says, speaking from a balcony in
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 02:16 PM
Apr 2014

a luxurious building. The RCC can help ameliorate that excess, if it wishes to. It does not wish to, apparently.

His words ring hollow to me. They could begin by ceasing their campaigning against the rights of women and LGBT people. In Minneapolis St. Paul, the archdiocese here spent millions trying to stop marriage equality, and has spent millions fighting reproductive choice for women. That money could easily have been spent in helping to solve the poverty problems in our inner cities.

I have no patience for this Pope. Let him act instead of speaking. That would improve my patience.

Riftaxe

(2,693 posts)
13. I kinda like the guy
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 06:15 PM
Apr 2014

While hardly a papist, and with the understanding that most of it is PR, it would still take a willful ignoramus to ignore the messages he is sending.

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
15. Perhaps you are only hearing the messages you like.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 07:40 PM
Apr 2014

Those are not the only messages he is sending.

Riftaxe

(2,693 posts)
19. Meaning it is a message with out merit?
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 10:16 PM
Apr 2014

I have no religious leanings, I do not know about deities and am perfectly fine with that, what is so offensive about what they are trying to get across to us?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
4. What a morally vacant human being this man is. He himself is responsible for much conflict
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 02:53 PM
Apr 2014

including a big stake in the horrible things going on in Uganda, where his Church accounts for 42% of the population, his Bishops have supported and publically celebrated these attacks on humanity and this man who named himself Francis has not said so much as a word to stop the mobs and the slamming of prison doors.
He is soaked in blood, as guilty as Scott Lively.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
8. Here's a cute link, Diocese of Honolulu's Land Asset Management Office
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 03:11 PM
Apr 2014

"The Diocesan Real Estate Director serves as:
•The Asset Manager for all of the real property owned by the Roman Catholic Church in the State of Hawaii. Interfaces with the designated managing agent and legal counsel to achieve the highest operating value for all investment properties. Includes providing leasing services and lease administration for investment properties."
http://www.catholichawaii.org/diocesan-offices/land-asset-management-office.aspx

When the message is 'eat kosher' and the messenger is having a pulled pork sandwich while speaking that message, the impact is somewhat diminished.

Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #8)

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
11. You disagree with the Pope and Catholic church you do not find this message meaningful?
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 03:39 PM
Apr 2014

that's OK ... If I saw these words scrawled in chalk on the asphalt parking surface of a mall, I would still find them meaningful and correct. That is not the case for you ...so be it.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. Ugandan Catholic Easter Message Calls for Genocide of Gays
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 09:57 AM
Apr 2014

"The Bishop of the Jinja Diocese of the Catholic Church, Bishop Rt. Rev. Fr. Charles Wamika, in today’s Easter Message delivered at St. Chalres Lwanga Catholic Church, praised the Members of Parliament for the Anti-Homosexuality Act that provides life in prison for gay (LGBTI) people in Uganda. The Bishop called for a blessing for Uganda’s Christians who worked so hard to ‘free the land of gays.’ The Bishope also asked for parents to hand over their gay children to authorities, so they would be rewarded in heaven. I would call that a statement praising and calling for a genocide."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024848820

I find it meaningful that none of you who celebrate the Pope have the basic decency to address the pogrom in Uganda, which the Pope refuses to condemn, which his Bishops are cheering for even as DUers promote the Pope.
I get that you think he got the trains to run on time, I just don't think that excuses hate and bigotry and pogrom.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
23. You are really painting with a broad brush
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 07:49 PM
Apr 2014

it is rude and unflattering to YOU considering my post stated "One may despise the messenger, but the message is valid and timely"

I wonder how you would feel about the Gay folk I have been closest too for most of my life .... they opted to join Roman Catholic Religious orders (one nun and two Franciscan brothers). Please do not share your opinion of them . They are phenomenal people that (even on an anonymous message board) should not in any way be linked to you.

THE POPE'S MESSAGE IS VALID AND TIMELY

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
7. Glad to see the Catholics have finally gotten back on message.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 03:01 PM
Apr 2014

If even the Catholics won't stand up for the poor, then we are all doomed.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
10. They could keep the art, if they just sold off the commercial real estate it would generate
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 03:38 PM
Apr 2014

billions, not to mention the vast holdings of stocks and bonds.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
17. It would have been a good time to toss the Ugandan church out on its ass
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 08:43 PM
Apr 2014

And any other church that is proposing harm to gays.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
18. Whether you believe or not, a positive message is a positive message.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 08:47 PM
Apr 2014

In this world, we don't have enough of them, especially from someone with so much influence. Sure there's a lot I wish he would do, but I like Pope Francis and what he has to say.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
21. Do you also like it when he says LGBT rights are a machination of the devil?
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 10:01 AM
Apr 2014

Do you really think that his years of attacking gay people are not a contributing factor to the support his Church is giving to genocide in Uganda? His Bishops cheer for this genocide and call for parents to turn in their gay children. Francis says nothing. His silence defines him, not his crafted public relations materials.....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024848820

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
22. Like I said, I don't agree with everything. Please don't attack me like that.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 11:04 AM
Apr 2014

I was raised Catholic and left the church years ago after going through a horrific annulment process.

I personally detest organized religion, but millions of people in this world think the Pope is as close to their god as it gets.
I'm in a place spiritually where as I said, positive messages should be supported, no matter who is giving them. Baby steps towards a change in how humans treat one another.

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