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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,026 posts)
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 02:17 PM Apr 2014

Oklahoma gun range applies to sell liquor to shooters



A gun range in Oklahoma is thought be the first in the state to apply for a liquor license.

“As a group we wanted to build a place, the first one in Oklahoma, where you could go in, shoot, enjoy the retail area and then go to the café,” Jeff Swanson, owner of the Wilshire Gun Club recently told KOKH.

When the club is complete, the 40,000 square-foot facility is expected to have 24 firearm lanes, 10 archery lanes, a simulation room, classrooms, and a VIP lounge with alcoholic beverages.

Swanson said that club members were being discouraged from shooting while impaired.

“Once your order a drink your driver’s license is scanned and you are red-flagged and you’re not allowed into any of the shooting facilities either as a spectator and certainly not as a shooter for the remainder of the day,” Swanson insisted.

Co-owner Jan Moran told The Journal Record that the policy would be to “shoot first, then drink.”

Capt. Brent Fairchild, spokesperson for Oklahoma’s Alcoholic Beverage Laws Enforcement (ABLE) Commission, pointed out that the idea was a recipe for disaster.

“Any misconceptions or joking aside, beer and bullets, guns and alcohol, they do not mix,” Swanson noted, adding that club policies to prevent drinkers from shooting could be circumvented because “where there’s a will there’s a way.”

“So no matter how many safeguards you do put in place there’s always someone who’s going to try to get around those,” he said.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/15/beer-and-bullets-oklahoma-gun-range-applies-to-sell-liquor-to-shooters/
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Oklahoma gun range applies to sell liquor to shooters (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2014 OP
What's the problem? They already sell shots! KamaAina Apr 2014 #1
Wrong CFLDem Apr 2014 #2
Seems like they're taking safety precautions. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #3
Ah, yes NV Whino Apr 2014 #4
This should end well liberal N proud Apr 2014 #5
So what could go wrong with this plan? MohRokTah Apr 2014 #6
I'm a big fan of booze as well as the 2nd amendment, but this is just a bad idea. Throd Apr 2014 #7
What could possibily go wrong?? yuiyoshida Apr 2014 #31
So, after our law-abiding gun owners have been served alcohol gratuitous Apr 2014 #8
Left to their own devices C_U_L8R Apr 2014 #9
In Norman, OK, supposedly there is (or was) a store called "Liquor. Guns and Ammo" LongTomH Apr 2014 #10
Hey, Jimmy, hold my beer and watch this... MineralMan Apr 2014 #11
I don't get the poutrage over this. linuxman Apr 2014 #12
I see more people laughing than clutching pearls. BTW, do the guns FSogol Apr 2014 #20
Of course not. linuxman Apr 2014 #21
May as well add a nudie bar, too Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #13
I'm all for it mindwalker_i Apr 2014 #14
"Shoot first, then drink." Aristus Apr 2014 #15
Hey, "Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms" -- thanks for the suggestion! . . . Journeyman Apr 2014 #16
It seems as if the owners of this facility Jenoch Apr 2014 #17
Gee what could possibly go wrong here? Initech Apr 2014 #18
Can they also start a policy or requiring the shooters to loudly vocalize their political, religious, FSogol Apr 2014 #19
We've got something similar with a Bass Pro Shops restaurant. X_Digger Apr 2014 #22
Great idea! Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #23
All together now: Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #24
Early jostling for the Darwin awards LondonReign2 Apr 2014 #25
They can drink before they go to the range. upaloopa Apr 2014 #26
Sure why not...alcohol & guns... one_voice Apr 2014 #27
Do it. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2014 #28
Breaking news - Bars have parking lots where people park their cars, then drink The Straight Story Apr 2014 #29
Future quote: "No one could have forseen anything going wrong" CanonRay Apr 2014 #30
Yeah... greytdemocrat Apr 2014 #32

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
3. Seems like they're taking safety precautions.
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 02:21 PM
Apr 2014
A gun range in Oklahoma is thought be the first in the state to apply for a liquor license.


I wonder gun ranges in other states have done this, and if so, I wonder what sort of issues they have had.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. So, after our law-abiding gun owners have been served alcohol
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 02:35 PM
Apr 2014

They'll be restricted from the shooting facilities for the remainder of the day. Presumably, these law-abiding gun owners will not have their shootin' arns confiscated or locked away. I wonder what someone might do, liquored up and not able to shoot at the range?

Oh well, best not to get too deep into hypotheticals, what with all the members and guests being law-abiding gun owners and everything. Sure hope nobody bad-mouths the Sooners football team.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
12. I don't get the poutrage over this.
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 02:40 PM
Apr 2014

Last edited Tue Apr 15, 2014, 03:42 PM - Edit history (1)

You aren't aloud to drink then shoot. I realize that the Faux Snooze-esque headline may have some of you confused, but you should really read the article. There is nothing to stop someone outside of this facility from drinking and then shooting til the cows come home. Why are you are so torn up about a facility where after you drink, you CAN'T SHOOT!?!

Reminds me of the pearl clutchers who get all riled over a gun store being within a certain distance of a school/daycare. "Oh no, something is NEAR something!!!"

There is a gun range that sells alcohol, but not to the shooters. BFD.

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
20. I see more people laughing than clutching pearls. BTW, do the guns
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 03:41 PM
Apr 2014

vanish the minute they start drinking?

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
21. Of course not.
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 03:45 PM
Apr 2014

However this range appears to be more conscious about stopping drinkers from shooting than other places. There are no safeguards at all outside of this establishment to stop drunks from shooting, unless interdicted by law enforcement.

I guess my issue with this is that I don't see the issue. Just more "blood in the streets!" BS.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
17. It seems as if the owners of this facility
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 03:09 PM
Apr 2014

are adding amenities to their range and doing it in a responsible manner.

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
19. Can they also start a policy or requiring the shooters to loudly vocalize their political, religious,
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 03:39 PM
Apr 2014

and scientific beliefs? Can they televise it?

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X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
22. We've got something similar with a Bass Pro Shops restaurant.
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 04:11 PM
Apr 2014

If you've seen one of the big Bass Pro shops, you know what I mean.. restaurant on one end (specializing in game meat dishes), massive retail space in the middle, boat shop on another corner, and a shooting range in back.

Hasn't been a problem since it opened that I can tell.




Did nobody actually read the article?

“Once your order a drink your driver’s license is scanned and you are red-flagged and you’re not allowed into any of the shooting facilities either as a spectator and certainly not as a shooter for the remainder of the day,” Swanson insisted.
 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
24. All together now:
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 04:22 PM
Apr 2014

"What could possibly go wrong?"

In all seriousness, though, the article makes it clear they are taking very serious precautions against having anyone who orders alcohol enter the shooting facility.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
26. They can drink before they go to the range.
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 04:42 PM
Apr 2014

I think they need to have people hang around to spend more money.
Even then they drive home lit up carrying a gun.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
29. Breaking news - Bars have parking lots where people park their cars, then drink
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 04:52 PM
Apr 2014

Maybe we should ban parking at bars and only let people walk there?

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