My encounter with a libertarian on MediaMatters

[Jamaal510]

Link: http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/04/11/drudge-report-recklessly-hypes-confrontation-be/198859

Here are two of his/her comments I responded to (their username is "kingh" BTW):
Comment #1

NintendoWii10: "And you prove a point that Milt Shook makes in one of his podcasts: that despite the fact that Speaker Pelosi's House got 373 bills passed that were blocked by the Republican minority in the Senate, you complain about the Democrats.

Was Social Security, the New Deal, FDA, OSHA, Medicare whole when they were first passed? It took DECADES for those programs to become as robust as they are now, yet you want the instant gratification unicorn. I enjoy what FDR accomplished, but he did it because he had a supermajority, and within that supermajority were the Dixiecrats, who were WORSE than Landrieu and the other red state Democrats are now."

kingh: "All of which you mentioned above he and his crony Congress and Senate had NO authority to pass he was the second big gooberment JUNKIE. Wilson started us off with the Fed Reserve ( Creature from Jekyll Island), Federal income TAX (Oh it will only be a TAX on the wealthy 1%) and the first IRS. Interesting how the Social Darwinist of the day supported every aspect of this crap. You really think the D and R are on 2 different teams lol. Wow you people are so smoked."

My response to kingh: "Oh for fuck's sake--not this "both parties are the same" BS again. Republicans have been the ones doing shit like blocking minimum wage increases, trying to cut social security, oppose gay rights, oppose voting rights, trying to start new wars, opposing tax hikes on the rich, opposing sensible gun laws, and repealing health care reform. Meanwhile, Democrats have been doing the opposite of that. If anything, the two parties are about the furthest apart on the spectrum that they've ever been. They can hardly agree on anything anymore!

Anybody who still tries to say that they are similar is either a liar or living in a cave."

Comment #2

abraham silverstein: "Bush spent to much money"

kingh: "Agree and Obama is following his (Bush) lead that is the problem. They all preach change and it is the same crap. I am amazed that some on the far left and far right can not see the similarities as they take our freedom. This is crazy to think we all agree on so much but it is how do we get there. It is also sad that I hear no one crying foul on the GE donations to Obama and they skated on an obscene amount of TAXES. Oh sorry that's who were supposed to be paying our taxes and not individuals. The departmentalization was planned so that know one knows what is going on and that is why the waste is off the chart. I am a libertarian and believe in the individual responsibility."

Me:
""Agree and Obama is following his lead that is the problem."

Um...no:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/08/projections-show-u-s-budget-deficit-will-shrink/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cbo-budget-deficit-2014

"I am amazed that some on the far left and far right can not see the similarities as they take our freedom."

So explain what EXACTLY Obama has done to take away our freedom. For example, you still have your right to free speech. You still have your right to have guns. You still have the right to vote. You still have the right to criticize him on the Internet. Everything in your post is simply pure hyperbole."

[Scootaloo]

1. You talk to libertarians?

God, why?

[Jamaal510]

7. I was just

bored last night and couldn't help it.

[hfojvt]

2. I say the parties ARE similar

they both could give a crap about the bottom 80%.

Posted from my cave.

Here's Dean Baker, lying his a$$ off. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022085948

[Cha]

3. THank you, Jamaal!

[Jamaal510]

8. No problem.

[Nanjing to Seoul]

4. Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level, then beat you with their experience

Arguing with a libertarian is like arguing with a howler monkey. . .all they do is scream and throw shit at you until you get tired and walk away, allowing them to think they won.

[Jamaal510]

9. Pretty much, but

"Arguing with a libertarian is like arguing with a howler monkey. . .all they do is scream and throw shit at you until you get tired and walk away, allowing them to think they won."

last night I was just bored and couldn't help it. I need to keep reminding myself that arguing with them (and just about every troll on that site) is like talking to a brick wall. It's fun to watch other people clown on them, but their opinions and talking points never change.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

5. I hear that "both sides are the same" from someone who watches CNN....

He also is a fan of the "It's always been this way, it's always going to BE this way and there's NOTHING you can do about it so why stress yourself over it?"

Then he will tell me the latest Hollywood gossip.

Oh,...and did you hear on tax day the moon will be as blood?

[Jamaal510]

10. Yeah that's

to be expected from a CNN viewer, I guess. And...

"Oh,...and did you hear on tax day the moon will be as blood?"

wow, are people out there really saying that?!

[rogerashton]

6. **fake** libertarian

Real libertarians are anarcho-communists.