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babylonsister

(171,090 posts)
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:11 AM Apr 2014

Why Clinton's Gender Problem Will Not Be Like Obama's Race Problem

http://prospect.org/article/why-clintons-gender-problem-will-not-be-obamas-race-problem

Why Clinton's Gender Problem Will Not Be Like Obama's Race Problem

Paul Waldman

April 9, 2014

Sexism in public rhetoric is still tolerated in a way racism isn't, and that could have a profound impact on 2016.

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It's true that there will be an extraordinary amount of sexism directed at Clinton, just as there always has been. But unlike Barack Obama, who spent years planning how to make white people comfortable with his race (which worked for a while, until his victory became a real possibility), Clinton has never tried to make her gender unthreatening. I suppose we could mention the way she stepped back from policy and did more traditional First Lady stuff after the Clinton health care plan failed in 1994, but that was a brief interregnum between times when she in effect told the country that she was going to be just as smart and knowledgeable and ambitious as a man in her position, and if they didn't like that, then it was their problem and not hers.

The other thing that's different is the way people, and particularly conservatives, talk about gender versus the way they talk about race. To put it simply, a lot of conservatives are still unashamedly sexist. When MSNBC calls out Rush Limbaugh for saying something sexist about Clinton, he doesn't try to convince people that it's a calumnious charge and he is in fact deeply committed to gender equality. He doesn't much care, and neither do a lot of other people.

To what degree that ends up working in Clinton's favor politically, we'll have to see. Race both helped and hurt Obama (researchers are still sorting through which way the scales tipped on net), and on first blush something similar is likely to happen with Clinton: there will be people who won't vote for a woman, and there will be people excited about voting for the first woman president. There will also be women who are so disgusted by the misogynistic attacks on her that it pushes them toward voting for her.

But there is going to be absolutely no subtlety in the sexist attacks on Hillary Clinton, and the people making them will barely attempt to argue that they aren't being sexist. Instead of "How dare you call me that!" their response to the accusation will be more along the lines of, "Shut yer trap, girlie!"
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gollygee

(22,336 posts)
1. I don't think the racist attacks against Obama have been subtle.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:14 AM
Apr 2014

Some are dog whistles and some are very blatant. And I imagine the sexist attacks against Clinton will be the same - some dog whistles and some very blatant.

babylonsister

(171,090 posts)
2. I don't think they have been either. It's
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:22 AM
Apr 2014

a good think Clinton has a thick hide; I wonder if it's worth it though.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,437 posts)
4. Have the unfortunate feeling
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:26 AM
Apr 2014

that if and when Hillary gets elected, instead of racism, we'll get 4-8 years of the worst kinds of misogny from the GOP (to the extent that their party survives the implosion that has gradually destroyed their party over President Obama). Not that that would be a reason not to elect her, of course.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
5. But some are going to find out very soon....that the Right hate women....
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:34 AM
Apr 2014

even more than they hate Black or Gay people....watch and see...

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
12. Yeah, it was a little while back...we were talking about how she hasn't driven since 1996
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 01:42 PM
Apr 2014

and it came up in conversation. She is still really big into cars funny enough. She want's to get a CTS-V and do a LS7 swap.

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