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kpete

(72,017 posts)
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 09:30 AM Apr 2014

George W. Bush Used Top Google Results for All Paintings; Who Will Sue for Copyright Infringement?

George W. Bush Used Top Google Results for All Paintings; Who Will Sue for Copyright Infringement?
Yes, that’s right. George W. Bush is an appropriation artist.


While many may have assumed that he used his experience in meeting with those world leaders in order to have an accurate representation of what they looked like, the truth is that he just pulled results from Google Image search result for each one. Literally. Some people have gone through and done Google Image searches on each of the subjects he painted, and discovered that the paintings were clearly all based on either the very first result, or very near the top search result.




Yes, that's right. George W. Bush is an appropriation artist.

Many of those images are from Wikipedia, where they're under Creative Commons licensing, but others are clearly covered by copyright. As Animal New York notes, the image of former French President Jacques Chirac comes from a photo of the cover of Chirac's book cover, where the copyright on the photo is actually held by the Associated Press.

http://animalnewyork.com/2014/george-w-bush-took-paintings-google-images/
http://www.truthdig.com/arts_culture/item/george_w_bush_used_top_google_results_for_paintings_copyright_20140410

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George W. Bush Used Top Google Results for All Paintings; Who Will Sue for Copyright Infringement? (Original Post) kpete Apr 2014 OP
AWOL Bush is compleat Republican Berlum Apr 2014 #1
Meh--let him have his painting. He's not a bad artist, really, and it keeps him TwilightGardener Apr 2014 #2
He's copying photographs . . . brush Apr 2014 #3
bush kpete Apr 2014 #4
So? What's the story? Dawgs Apr 2014 #15
Huh? brush Apr 2014 #31
Pretty simple. Why should anyone care that Bush likes to paint? Dawgs Apr 2014 #39
I agree brush Apr 2014 #40
Exactly. I don't get why Dems are getting so excited about this. Dawgs Apr 2014 #14
I think some are just put-off by the Corp-Media fawning over him. "Isnt he cute". nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #22
Maybe. The media is obviously trying to rehab the Bush name for Jebster, but TwilightGardener Apr 2014 #25
They are transformative Generic Other Apr 2014 #5
The Chirac and Sirleaf edhopper Apr 2014 #12
No-Class Action Suit. Octafish Apr 2014 #6
It is amusing that the investigators couldn't find the right Karzai photo Ms. Toad Apr 2014 #7
Copying from a photograph is not a copyright violation. NV Whino Apr 2014 #8
Agreed. Xyzse Apr 2014 #9
a cheat, a bad artist, and... Supersedeas Apr 2014 #13
Actually it can be as it is a 'derivative work'. PoliticAverse Apr 2014 #26
Then there's this NV Whino Apr 2014 #27
Somebody has WAAAAAAAAY too much time on their hands LOL snooper2 Apr 2014 #10
And Dubya had an mstinamotorcity2 Apr 2014 #11
that's "nookular" corkhead Apr 2014 #24
OOPS mstinamotorcity2 Apr 2014 #41
It would be a small, but savory, legal accountability nt/ UTUSN Apr 2014 #16
Copying from a photograph or image without permission is legal - until you try to sell it. canoeist52 Apr 2014 #17
Fairey lost his court challenge with the AP over his "HOPE" poster. progressoid Apr 2014 #18
Yeah but Fairey was selling his. dilby Apr 2014 #20
You never know. I bet there are poeple out there willing to buy that crap. progressoid Apr 2014 #21
Painting a photograph, doesn't that fall under "Fair use" clause of copyright law bobduca Apr 2014 #19
why does it remind me of this? corkhead Apr 2014 #23
That's how George Zimmerman does his too. PeteSelman Apr 2014 #28
zimmerman came to my mind, too grasswire Apr 2014 #29
Dubya is as good a painter as he was a world leader... n/t backscatter712 Apr 2014 #30
Hah! Your post tops them all. Agreed! nt brush Apr 2014 #32
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #33
Bush is both stupid and lazy Gothmog Apr 2014 #34
I wonder if that critic had heard about this copyright Sister to TxTowelie Apr 2014 #37
He's incapable of original thought, original vision for his "art." Sister to TxTowelie Apr 2014 #35
Then let's hope he Googled Santorum WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2014 #36
This falls under the doctrine of "parodic fair use" jmowreader Apr 2014 #38
the paintings themselves are ok, but it's just like him and his lack of depth JI7 Apr 2014 #42

brush

(53,871 posts)
3. He's copying photographs . . .
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 09:59 AM
Apr 2014

a beginner stage of artistic development. He has a ways to go to reach a creativity break through to originality.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
39. Pretty simple. Why should anyone care that Bush likes to paint?
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 02:15 PM
Apr 2014

It's really not that big a deal.

brush

(53,871 posts)
40. I agree
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 04:20 PM
Apr 2014

It's just that I'm in the field and he's giving artists a bad name. So I have to let people know that his stuff is not good — just mediocre beginner copying. Certainly not worthy of a one-man show.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
25. Maybe. The media is obviously trying to rehab the Bush name for Jebster, but
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 12:42 PM
Apr 2014

Junior's paintings aren't going to achieve that. So I'm inclined to be generous about it.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
5. They are transformative
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:05 AM
Apr 2014

He has changed them from the originals by painting them. He didn't trace them (I don't think).

edhopper

(33,615 posts)
12. The Chirac and Sirleaf
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:56 AM
Apr 2014

looked traced the Putin and Karsi don't.
I think he does a little of both.
Either way he is a mediocre beginner artist.
But I approve of him staying out of pol8itics and World affairs.

Ms. Toad

(34,090 posts)
7. It is amusing that the investigators couldn't find the right Karzai photo
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:16 AM
Apr 2014

so they grabbed another one, flipped it, and made up a story about why the image was flipped - when he hadn't flipped any of hte others. (The one above was flipped by the authors - follow the link to see the unflipped )version.

Actually, Afghanistan’s Hamid Karzai is flipped, probably by Bush using a basic technique of transferring photo to a canvas. Because human faces aren’t really symmetrical, he looks a little bit off.



Here's the one he more likely did copy (note the difference in how much neck is showing, the hat, the twinkle in the eyes, the line/scar on the chin (left in the picture), the more flared nostrils, the prominent soul patch).


NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
8. Copying from a photograph is not a copyright violation.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:32 AM
Apr 2014

Bush may be a cheat and a bad artist, but this is a non story.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
9. Agreed.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:37 AM
Apr 2014

Don't like him, but there are many other things to look at rather than this.

As others have mentioned, copying from photographs is what beginner artists do to learn.

Actually it is the golden age for nude art. Anything and everything you want to try to do, you can see a picture of in the internets.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
27. Then there's this
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 12:59 PM
Apr 2014

Infringement of Copyrighted Photographs
Under U.S. Copyright law, you violate the copyright owner's exclusive rights of copying and/or to create a derivative work by creating a work that is a copy of or "substantially similar" to another's. The courts determine whether the two works are substantially similar by comparing them and evaluating whether copyrightable elements have been used in the second work. A court is much more likely to find an infringement if the subject of the photo has been "set up" by the photographer and contains creative and original elements, compared to a photograph of subjects that already exist, such as in nature or a structure such as the Golden Gate Bridge.


I haven't seen all these paintings (nor do I want to), but I would guess some of the photographs fall under the "set up" category (formal portraits) and some do not (photo journalism or capturing a photo during an event).

But it is all moot, because it will never go to court.

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
11. And Dubya had an
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:46 AM
Apr 2014

Original thought when??? This is not surprising from a man who gave nuclear technology to India for Mangoes!!!

canoeist52

(2,282 posts)
17. Copying from a photograph or image without permission is legal - until you try to sell it.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 11:45 AM
Apr 2014

Then it becomes copyright infringement.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
20. Yeah but Fairey was selling his.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 12:00 PM
Apr 2014

I doubt Bush is going to sell his paintings or if there is anyone who would even buy them.

Response to kpete (Original post)

Gothmog

(145,562 posts)
34. Bush is both stupid and lazy
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 01:44 PM
Apr 2014

There was an art critic on the Chris Hayes show last night who really did not like Bush's works

37. I wonder if that critic had heard about this copyright
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 01:55 PM
Apr 2014

enfringement? I watched the last few minutes of the show last night, but there were a lot of distractions in the house. I like the substitute host.

35. He's incapable of original thought, original vision for his "art."
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 01:45 PM
Apr 2014

To me, this is now more of a "craft" that he's doing, not art. He might as well be painting clowns by number.

JI7

(89,269 posts)
42. the paintings themselves are ok, but it's just like him and his lack of depth
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 04:42 PM
Apr 2014

that he would paint based on that instead of anything deeper . the dumbass was actually president so you would think there would be moments that would stand out or inspire him in his work.

but it's just a google search.

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