If Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman beating him....

[Saturday]

then why in all the 911 calls from the neighbors do you hear Trayvon yelling "HELP" "HELP"??? If he were on top beating GZ up he wouldn't need help.

[HockeyMom]

1. With lax Florida gun laws

You never know who has a gun and will shoot you. That witness "John" said orignally the red sweater man (Zimmerman) was on top, but then the white hoodie black kid was. In that situation, wouldn't you too still be screaming Help?

[TheWraith]

3. Florida's laws are no more lax than any other state's.

And much more restrictive than many including Vermont. Law doesn't constrain someone who is willing to act unlawfully.

[HockeyMom]

10. As a former New Yorker in Florida

Flordia laws ARE lax.

[snagglepuss]

2. Their are witnesses who claim that it was Zimmerman who was the one

yelling for help and Zimmerman is saying the same thing.

[Vincardog]

5. Al the witnesses I heard said the "help" came from Trayvon. No one said it was Zimmerman except

Zimmerman and his friend who was not a witness.

[snagglepuss]

7. This is what I was referring to not that I buy it.

Several witnesses heard those cries, and there has been a dispute about whether they came from Zimmerman or Trayvon.

Lawyers for Trayvon's family say it was Trayvon, but police say their evidence indicates it was Zimmerman.

One witness, who has since talked to local television news reporters, told police he saw Zimmerman on the ground with Trayvon on top, pounding him — and was unequivocal that it was Zimmerman who was crying for help.


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-26/news/os-trayvon-martin-zimmerman-account-20120326_1_miami-schools-punch-unarmed-black-teenager

[Vincardog]

8. Are we supposed to believe that a 140 lb. 17 yo decked a 250Lb man with one punch and beat his head

on the concrete, but the victim managed to reach his gun and defend himself?

That is a load of horse shit. We know Zimmerman followed Trayvon.
We know Zimmerman had a previous arrest fro assaulting a police officer.
We know Zimmerman left the safety of his car to pursue Trayvon against the advice of the police.

Where is Zimmerman's hospital record?
If the police came on the scene and he had been assaulted the police would have made sure he was sent to the hospital.

This is the worst reporting I have seen outside of Faux so called SnewZ.

[Snake Alchemist]

11. 6'3" 150lb or 5'9" 250lb.

Tough to call. Lean muscle is usually more effective than short and bulbous, but it can really go either way. I all depends on the persons "heart".

[Fawke Em]

12. The police report says he was 6 feet tall, 160 pounds.

Weight is hard to guess, but height is not.

I've heard he was 6'1", 6'2" and 6'3". I'm gonna guess that 6'1" is probably accurate - and I say this as a mother of a middle school boy who was maybe 5'4" yesterday and is probably 5'5" today (yes, I'm being obtuse, but he grows an inch a week, lately) and 140 pounds.

My son is thin - not skinny - and he still weighs 140 pounds because of his big ole bones.

[Vincardog]

16. Where is Zimmerman's hospital record?

[TheWraith]

4. None of that story really meshes with the 911 tapes. nt

[Cali_Democrat]

6. Exactly

Or Mary Cutcher, one of the witnesses.

[underpants]

9. Why just a bloody nose and one wound on the back of the head?

did he only hit him in the nose? I've seen a fight like that

[Iris]

13. And it's not an excuse for battered women

why should it be excuse for a grown man?

[Thrill]

14. Even if he were beating him

He was following him for no reason. The kid was probably scared

[pokerfan]

15. Well, he should have been more circumspect, walking around like that

What was he thinking, walking around with that color of skin and wearing a hoodie?

Which is pretty much the typical FuxNews/Freeper perspective.