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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 01:45 PM Apr 2014

I have to ask this - but has George W. Bush been the least productive ex-president?

I know soon after Jimmy Carter was voted out of the office, he took a few months off then he started The Carter Center. Carter has been one of the most active of the Ex-Presidents not letting forced retirement to dampen his spirit or keep him out of the limelight.

Clinton has also been very active since retirement starting the Clinton Foundation. In fact the few times I've seen GWB in an active public role it was usually something he did with Clinton, like some of the fundraisers for crises around the globe.

I know Reagan did nothing in retirement because he was so old and probably in advanced Alzheimer's. And I don't think Bush Sr did a whole lot post presidency except a few projects again with Clinton.

But as for GWB - it's like the last 6 years he has vanished from existence. He has not helped with any republican campaigns or even speak at the 2012 GOP Convention (Clinton has been to all the conventions).

Life after a presidency is time to truly build ones legacy and it seems that Bush Jr's legacy is one of permanent retirement and vanishing from existence.

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I have to ask this - but has George W. Bush been the least productive ex-president? (Original Post) LynneSin Apr 2014 OP
Pretty sure Bush feels he is living the American Dream. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #1
Didn't he say the presidency was awesome and that he was famous.. Tikki Apr 2014 #6
Yeah. Guy is sitting at home painting crap and enjoying his retirement. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #12
If we added up all the money lost in retirement monies by our DUers during the boosh years... Tikki Apr 2014 #15
When I first heard that quote, Jamaal510 Apr 2014 #28
Least useful on the job. Least productive off the job. randome Apr 2014 #2
I have no idea sakabatou Apr 2014 #3
He does a charity bike ride with wounded warriors Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #4
Because of health reasons, LBJ did virtually nothing at all. 1000words Apr 2014 #5
Don't really care Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2014 #7
I've heard some pundits Jamaal510 Apr 2014 #29
He's a lazy, lazy man... Pre, mid and post presidency. tridim Apr 2014 #8
5 lazy idiots that voted for him, actually. Initech Apr 2014 #26
+1 Jamaal510 Apr 2014 #30
Harrison, Taylor, Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Harding, Roosevelt, Kennedy all did less. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #9
Hah pipi_k Apr 2014 #13
pushing up daisies is more productive than painting them poorly. unblock Apr 2014 #14
Not sure pipi_k Apr 2014 #10
His work in Africa was ok yeoman6987 Apr 2014 #36
Since Calvin Coolidge pscot Apr 2014 #11
+1 Johonny Apr 2014 #42
Isn't he doing some shit with his Lie-berry? nt Ilsa Apr 2014 #16
jesus, don't give him any ideas! for once he's not hurting anybody, let him drink\paint in peace! dionysus Apr 2014 #17
+1,000,000 Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2014 #37
I'm glad he's staying out of the way and doing awful paintings. sinkingfeeling Apr 2014 #18
especially these Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2014 #38
"But as for GWB - it's like the last 6 years he has vanished from existence." 3catwoman3 Apr 2014 #19
Did Ford do anything besides sit on corporate boards and play golf? Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2014 #20
He is ashamed of his legacy sorefeet Apr 2014 #21
Regan... rexcat Apr 2014 #22
He was only at the White House about one-third of the time Samantha Apr 2014 #23
He had to go underground, as it were TransitJohn Apr 2014 #24
pretty consistent with his tenure as president, too fishwax Apr 2014 #25
Malaria and AIDS fundraising Recursion Apr 2014 #27
True davidpdx Apr 2014 #33
Definitely agree there, and it will be totally un-sexy, and whatever Chicago needs (nt) Recursion Apr 2014 #34
Which is good because it keeps his visibility low profile in the states LynneSin Apr 2014 #39
Actually GWB keeps quite busy. npk Apr 2014 #31
as opposed to the rest of his life? nt UTUSN Apr 2014 #32
Ford golfed..Nixon was shamed into exile SoCalDem Apr 2014 #35
I prefer he stay at home and paint. Marrah_G Apr 2014 #40
Andrew Jackson hasn't done shit in like forever. AngryAmish Apr 2014 #41

Tikki

(14,559 posts)
6. Didn't he say the presidency was awesome and that he was famous..
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 01:52 PM
Apr 2014

I am pretty sure those sentiments are enough for him to live his life out and sleep well at night.



Tikki

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
12. Yeah. Guy is sitting at home painting crap and enjoying his retirement.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 01:56 PM
Apr 2014

I know so many people of retirement age who would like to paint shit and relax at home. Some can't do it in part because of that piece of shit.

Tikki

(14,559 posts)
15. If we added up all the money lost in retirement monies by our DUers during the boosh years...
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 02:00 PM
Apr 2014

I am sure it would be shocking. We lost around $40,000 plus how much more in wages that didn't keep up.

The Tikkis

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
28. When I first heard that quote,
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 12:20 AM
Apr 2014

it sounded like something I'd expect to hear on a Beavis and Butthead episode!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
2. Least useful on the job. Least productive off the job.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 01:48 PM
Apr 2014

Another lazy conservative.
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Nothing.
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Boom Sound 416

(4,185 posts)
4. He does a charity bike ride with wounded warriors
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 01:50 PM
Apr 2014

But I think ex-presidents do more when they are trying to change their legacy.

Even if bush wanted to change his, it ain't changin'

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
5. Because of health reasons, LBJ did virtually nothing at all.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 01:51 PM
Apr 2014

Nixon ... well, it's best he disappeared.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,422 posts)
7. Don't really care
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 01:52 PM
Apr 2014

He did enough damage while he was POTUS. I don't care if I never hear about/from him ever again. The only "decent" thing he has done since leaving office is not get out and slam President Obama like Cheney has (though the corporate media would hang on his every word if he did say anything).

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
29. I've heard some pundits
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 12:24 AM
Apr 2014

" The only "decent" thing he has done since leaving office is not get out and slam President Obama like Cheney has (though the corporate media would hang on his every word if he did say anything)."

say that it's typical for former Presidents to hold back on attacking their successors, though. For example, Clinton never really went after Bush ll, and Jimmy Carter never went after Reagan and Bush l much at all.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
8. He's a lazy, lazy man... Pre, mid and post presidency.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 01:52 PM
Apr 2014

He is exactly like the millions of lazy idiots who voted for him.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
10. Not sure
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 01:53 PM
Apr 2014

he did anything worthwhile even before his *residency, either, but yeah...afterward, it's pretty much business as usual for him, isn't it...


Unless, of course, he's doing all kinds of neat shit in secret because he's such a fine human being that he wouldn't want anyone to know what a fine human being he is....

.....

.....

.....

Nahhhhh.....

I don't believe that either.



 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
36. His work in Africa was ok
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 06:41 AM
Apr 2014

He didn't do much as President, but he did send additional money for expanded drugs to Africa. That is about it though while President.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
11. Since Calvin Coolidge
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 01:55 PM
Apr 2014

Nixon was productive but evil. He created a bimbo in his own image; Monica Crowley.

3catwoman3

(24,023 posts)
19. "But as for GWB - it's like the last 6 years he has vanished from existence."
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 10:17 PM
Apr 2014

Good. Too bad that couldn't have happened 14 years ago, before he got the chance to spend 8 years screwing up the country.

I feel ill anytime I see that smirking face.

sorefeet

(1,241 posts)
21. He is ashamed of his legacy
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 10:32 PM
Apr 2014

and he hides in fear. It is going to take a few more years but he will be indicted for war crimes. Along with Cheney and the gang. Didn't he buy some property in a country that won't extradite or something. Already got his hide out and lots of money.

rexcat

(3,622 posts)
22. Regan...
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 10:52 PM
Apr 2014

since his Alzheimer's Disease had such a detrimental affect on him. In fact one of the most corrupt administrations for the same reason since he was probably not competent prior to being shot and after the shooting his operatives found it difficult to hide his (Regan's) mental deficits. He had very few public appearances after his "recovery."

on edit: Bush 2 a close second.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
23. He was only at the White House about one-third of the time
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 10:55 PM
Apr 2014

He spent the balance at Camp David or his "ranch."

I am not sure what your definition of "productive" is in this context. George W. Bush* did a lot of harm (and that is an understatement) in the little time he was actually on the job. So I am thinking that might make him the most counter-productive person to ever occupy the White House, but that is just too kind of a way to describe the hideous acts he authorized.

Sam

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
24. He had to go underground, as it were
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 11:35 PM
Apr 2014

for a few years, he had no choice. His party didn't want him around, and neither did anyone in the USA, nor the world at large. He might never leave the country again.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
25. pretty consistent with his tenure as president, too
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 11:40 PM
Apr 2014

Lotta vacation. At least now he's not starting unnecessary wars, though. :/

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
33. True
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 03:19 AM
Apr 2014

and the wounded warrior run someone mentioned up thread. Supporting AIDS research was one of the very few things he did right.

I agree with the OP, compared to Carter and Clinton, Bush senior and junior have done very little. I would bet you anything right out of the gate after he retires (with a couple months of rest), President Obama will be giving old Jimmy and Bill a run for their money.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
39. Which is good because it keeps his visibility low profile in the states
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 01:17 PM
Apr 2014

That's all good stuff that he is doing but it's over in Africa, a place where he can't remind American voters how he fucked up this country.

npk

(3,660 posts)
31. Actually GWB keeps quite busy.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 12:32 AM
Apr 2014

Between his finger painting, cartoons in the morning, and afternoons of golfing, there is barely enough time for him to get fall down drunk and fall into the neighborhood fountain.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
35. Ford golfed..Nixon was shamed into exile
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:55 AM
Apr 2014

Eisenhower golfed

It seems to me that the Democratic presidents (if health permits) tend to be more productive..

No recent president can touch Carter's dedication to service though..


Johnson & Reagan had health issues ..

Most probably concentrate on writing their memoirs.

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