Stand-your-ground versus "turn the other cheek"

[Democrats_win]

Turning the other cheek really protects people from Zimmerman's situation. Zimmerman is crying for his own lost life. Most men realize that you can't really be hurt by another man unless that man has a knife or gun. Pain isn't really that bad. Real men turn the other cheek. This coward, Zimmerman shot and killed an unarmed man. This is not even manslaughter--it's cold-blooded murder.

Now that we know this law is unjust, inhumane, and against God, will the GOP do the right thing and reverse this law? Sadly they are buried so deep in the pockets of the NRA and ALEC and they're so prideful that they won't do the right thing. Who says the GOP is "christian?" Clearly the GOP is in the hands of Satan.

[dkf]

1. On the other hand dying from a beating is probably more painful than dying by gunshot.

At least a gunshot is fast.

[Hoyt]

2. True, but I'd whether defend myself from a beating, than a right winger with a gun or two.

However you cut it, I don't think we are better off by everyone arming up before they venture out into public.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

4. How would you defend yourself?

What if you were a small woman or an elderly person?

Would you rather take the beat down rather than soil your hands by using a firearm?

[Johnson20]

6. Professor it appears that very

few folks here have had any kind of defensive training, particulary force-on-force. Otherwise they would not spout such nonsense

[Hoyt]

7. I've got a lot of years on me and have been a lot of places without a friggin gun -- and I'm fine.

Maybe you guys should quit being so afraid of the citizenry, and stop thinking you need a gun everywhere you go like Chuck E Cheeze, churches, parks, etc.

That's not nonsense.

[Johnson20]

9. I am truly happy for you Hoyt, seriously.

I am 71 and fortunitly or unfortunitly my life has not been that uneventual.

[Hoyt]

11. So, do you plan on making up for it next time?

[Johnson20]

13. No you misjudge me I carry no anamosity towards anyone, but

I will defend myself, wife and family from death or great injury and I am prepared to do it by whatever means are at hand,be it gun, knife, ballpoint pen, belt, cane, my oxygen tubing, etc.

[Hoyt]

15. I'd suggest leaving the gun at home, and being careful where you go. You will be safe, and

society will be better for it. Good luck.

[Johnson20]

16. Sage advice! We probably have much in common

as long as we can agree to disagree like gentelmen like I think we have.

[Hoyt]

8. I am an elderly person. And I don't believe more guns in public are the answer.

[Democrats_win]

3. True. But you have no chance with the gunshot--depending on their shooting skills.

If being beat goes that far, one would hope that you could escape or someone might rescue you.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

5. Turn the other cheek is and should be an option, not a mandate

No duty to retreat is not inherently inhumane or unjust. Its situation at best.

What some mythical being thinks about it is irrelevant.

[Johnson20]

10. But, IMHO

duty to retreat laws enable bullies and gangbangers.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

12. Sometimes, and other times it saves victims lives

Tactically sometimes retreating is the right answer, other times it makes things more dangerous, all independent of laws of that jurisdiction.

There is a lot of fuzz and variables here. Those squealing in outrage are forgetting some of that. When they calm down, hopefully they will join in a reasoned discussion.

[Johnson20]

14. Boy I certainly hope so. You

folks that have been here for years understand this, but I'm agast at much of the thought and comment being express here.

[Edweird]

17. Sorry, but I stand up for myself and don't go down without a fight.

If you want to curl up in a ball or whatever - fine by me. But don't try to force your masochism on me. I'm just fine with SYG exactly as it is.