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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 02:16 PM Apr 2014

Ronald Reagan: "When MEN Were Free"

Remember When Republicans Said Social Security And Medicare Would Destroy Freedom Too?




"If Medicare passes into law, the consequences will be dire beyond imagining," Reagan said. If opponents failed to scuttle it, he warned, "One of these days you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children, and our children’s children, what it once was like in America when men were free."


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/gop-social-security-medicare-freedom
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Ronald Reagan: "When MEN Were Free" (Original Post) kpete Apr 2014 OP
You mean the freedom to not die from being broke? shenmue Apr 2014 #1
What a blubbering idiot. Whisp Apr 2014 #2
Oh but it sounds so good ... so American kydo Apr 2014 #3
kydo kpete Apr 2014 #4
I never to this day kydo Apr 2014 #16
"...who sadly paints better than he ran the country." 3catwoman3 Apr 2014 #13
Keep rotting, Ronnie. Arugula Latte Apr 2014 #5
His election is one big thing I'd change if I could Ilsa Apr 2014 #6
Would that... 3catwoman3 Apr 2014 #14
95% of the time, conservatives are wrong. Laelth Apr 2014 #7
*straight white Christian men with money YoungDemCA Apr 2014 #8
never ever forget wilt the stilt Apr 2014 #9
Yes, I found that shocking. A deliberate attempt to align with racists. Almost unbelievable. SharonAnn Apr 2014 #10
reagan thought he was a king....he was less than a pawn. spanone Apr 2014 #11
he started out as a liberal democrat in the 30's, he supported FDR... does anyone know what made dionysus Apr 2014 #12
Nancy. HubertHeaver Apr 2014 #17
eww. that makes it even worse, abandoning one's philosophy for her. dionysus Apr 2014 #18
I believe it is far more complex than that. HubertHeaver Apr 2014 #21
Before Jan, 20 1981 Wolf Frankula Apr 2014 #15
Reagan was the original teabagger Initech Apr 2014 #19
The greatest ambassador ... GeorgeGist Apr 2014 #20

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
1. You mean the freedom to not die from being broke?
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 02:17 PM
Apr 2014

That freedom?

Why do people not remember how scary this man was?

kydo

(2,679 posts)
3. Oh but it sounds so good ... so American
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 02:29 PM
Apr 2014

But alas it was all a b movie script that took a useless actor all the way the White House. Only in America would we not only elect the raygun but that thing called w, who sadly paints better then he ran the country, oh wait a dick ran the country. No not that repub dick, he was gonna be impeached so he quit. I meant the other dick that should have been put in jail. But if you ask me they are all .... um scum. No sense in shaming the male organ by calling it repub.

kpete

(71,997 posts)
4. kydo
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 02:33 PM
Apr 2014
alas it was all a b movie script that took a useless actor all the way the White House.

exactly how mr pete and i saw it too!!!

peace, kp

kydo

(2,679 posts)
16. I never to this day
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 07:48 PM
Apr 2014

could understand the raygun's appeal. Not to mention the hate repugs slapped on President Carter. I was 14 when Carter lost to that unemployed actor. Didn't like him then and I still don't like him. Actually I blame him for many of our current problems. Once, there was a brief time I thought maybe I was too harsh on the old guy. You know being President while not really having a working memory. 'Just go read these lines Mr. President just like you used to do in movies with chimps.' But then after about 90 seconds, my sympathy passed from him back to our country's reality which was royally screwed up, thanks to him.

This country hasn't elected a real republican since Ike. Nixon was a crook. Ford was a filler kind of easily forgotten other then helping to launch Chevy Chase and SNL. Raygun, depending on your point of view was either a god or the anti-christ ... I pick anti-Christ, the 666 things is all there. Bush Part 1 was bland boring one termer that seemed to vomit a lot, maybe it was all the coke his son was buying from across the street from his white house. Bush part 2 was complete take over of reality, will go down as the worst point in USA history. Like I said Ike was the last republican ever elected President.

3catwoman3

(24,010 posts)
13. "...who sadly paints better than he ran the country."
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 06:03 PM
Apr 2014

And he paints pretty badly, IMO. Every time I see his face, I still have trouble believing that he was president twice. Note that I do not say elected twice.

As for Reagan - there are no words sufficiently negative to express how I feel about that fool.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
6. His election is one big thing I'd change if I could
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 02:45 PM
Apr 2014

go back in time and had the power to control a major event.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
7. 95% of the time, conservatives are wrong.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 03:52 PM
Apr 2014

This is just more proof.

To quote Mark Shields, "A conservative is someone who agrees with liberal policy 20 years after it becomes law."

-Laelth

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
12. he started out as a liberal democrat in the 30's, he supported FDR... does anyone know what made
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 05:46 PM
Apr 2014

him go off the deep end? If I recall, it was his fear of "teh commies".

does anyone else know?

what made him go from this;

Reagan was a New Deal Democrat. He joked that he had probably become a Democrat by birth, given that his father, Jack, was so devoted to the Democratic Party. The younger Reagan cast his first presidential vote in 1932 for Franklin Roosevelt, and did so again in the succeeding three presidential contests. His faith in FDR remained undimmed even after World War II, when he called himself “a New Dealer to the core.” He summarized his views in this way: “I thought government could solve all our postwar problems just as it had ended the Depression and won the war. I didn’t trust big business. I thought government, not private companies, should own our big public utilities; if there wasn’t enough housing to shelter the American people, I thought government should build it; if we needed better medical care, the answer was socialized medicine.” When his brother, Moon, became a Republican and argued with his sibling, the younger Reagan concluded “he was just spouting Republican propaganda.”

to this;

HubertHeaver

(2,522 posts)
21. I believe it is far more complex than that.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 12:31 AM
Apr 2014

My current thinking is that he was, at best, a weak follower constantly looking for a leader. He found that leader in Nancy and Nancy's father along with the CEO of GE. A "cradle to grave" study on him would be fascinating. I think it would show his dementia beginning much earlier than 1990.

While I did lay his change at Nancy's feet, I think his relationship with her was coincidental to and not a cause of sharp right turn.

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
15. Before Jan, 20 1981
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 06:30 PM
Apr 2014

When Bonzo's co-star became preznit of the United States. That's when men were free.

Wolf

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