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gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:21 AM Apr 2014

Cesar Chavez: I saw the movie last night with my wife

while we were in Portland. It is an excellent movie and I would recommend anyone to go see it!

In a part of the movie, there is a clip of Ronald Reagan as governor of California bitching about how immoral Chavez and Robert Kennedy and the grape boycott is. You should have seen the clip, the venom in his voice and hatred on his face was clearly evident.

My wife who was with me leaned over and whispered, "I wouldn't be surprised if Reagan had something to do with Robert's assassination." I had never thought about that. I was really young and wasn't too cognizant of all the nuances of politics and the news plus, I was living in Germany at the time. DU'ers what do you think? Do think there is a possibility that the old fuck wad could have been complicit either by commission or omission in the RFK assassination? I know it may seem like a dumb question, but she got me to thinking.

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Cesar Chavez: I saw the movie last night with my wife (Original Post) gopiscrap Apr 2014 OP
Reagan was filfth. Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #1
I totally agree gopiscrap Apr 2014 #2
He did have the backing of some horrible people thoughout his political career. Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #10
It did happen on his turf Ken Burch Apr 2014 #11
A lot of respect for Minnesota and Washington D.C. yeoman6987 Apr 2014 #12
Saw the film last Saturday oldandhappy Apr 2014 #3
Thanks... Going This Weekend... WillyT Apr 2014 #4
Reagan fronted for hidden players. hunter Apr 2014 #5
What I meant was he might have turned a blind eye gopiscrap Apr 2014 #7
Something I never thought about, but everything turned out fine for Reagan mountain grammy Apr 2014 #6
those are kinda my thoughts also! gopiscrap Apr 2014 #8
I've always regarded Ronnie as an empty suit, the slick snake-oil salesman struggle4progress Apr 2014 #9

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
10. He did have the backing of some horrible people thoughout his political career.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:36 AM
Apr 2014

Anything is possible.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
11. It did happen on his turf
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:41 AM
Apr 2014

But Reagan was more likely the beneficiary, rather than a plotter(can you picture him personally plotting ANYTHING?)

Nixon seems more plausible(possibly in collusion with LBJ, since Bobby had forced Johnson out of the race and was the only Democrat with a realistic chance of getting nominated who had a real shot at stopping ol' Milhous).

I always kind of figured that, once LBJ knew he wouldn't get another term, he was bound and determined to make sure NO Democrat would replace him. That, to my mind, is the most plausible explanation for his insistence of forcing Humphrey to defend the war in his campaign speeches all the way to Chicago(since he knew Humphrey would make himself unelectable by doing that).

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
12. A lot of respect for Minnesota and Washington D.C.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 05:49 AM
Apr 2014

Those were the only two spots in the country to not reelect President Reagan in 1984. I am still shocked that Maryland went for Reagan….Ugh!

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
3. Saw the film last Saturday
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:31 AM
Apr 2014

and agree with you that it is worth seeing. I recommend it also. Re Reagan, I don't know. Hate has many forms. The growers and the politicians were definitely not on the side of the workers but that is nothing new then or now. I'll be interested to see what others have to say.

hunter

(38,318 posts)
5. Reagan fronted for hidden players.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:43 AM
Apr 2014

Whatever was going on in Reagan's mean, venal, empty, and incurious mind, he was an actor, not a director.

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
7. What I meant was he might have turned a blind eye
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:52 AM
Apr 2014

or knew before hand what was going to happen and didn't intercede....

mountain grammy

(26,626 posts)
6. Something I never thought about, but everything turned out fine for Reagan
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:52 AM
Apr 2014

not so much for RFK. what that blow did to all of us; proved once and for all, true liberals who capture the imagination of the people, who are popular, even loved, by the people, will no longer be allowed to survive in America. If character assassination won't do it, there's the real deal.
Yeah, I could believe Reagan was behind it. Probably silly, but the way things turned out...

struggle4progress

(118,297 posts)
9. I've always regarded Ronnie as an empty suit, the slick snake-oil salesman
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:34 AM
Apr 2014

His job was never to decide what happened: it was to deflect attention from whatever the boys were actually doing behind his caravan, a matter with which he never much concerned himself

Ronnie stood up and spoke sonorously, and when too many people tried to peek in back, he'd razzle-dazzle some controversy so everybody would run around front again to see what all the commotion was

In the 80s, I spent far too much time paying attention to Ronnie and far too little time attending to the creeps and thugs back behind his caravan: it was hard not to, because he was good at it:

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