'Winger Calls for Mass Slaughter of Muslims

[DonViejo]

JOSH MARSHALL – APRIL 2, 2014, 11:00 PM EDT

This from a conservative film-maker and contributing writer for Breitbart.com, in response to today's shootings at Fort Hood ...

Patrick Dollard Follow
@PatDollard

If there is even one more act of Muslim terrorism, it is then time for Americans to start slaughtering Muslims in the streets, all of them.

6:35 PM - 2 Apr 2014

Usually even the most sociopathic individuals quickly take these sorts of tweets down once the blow back starts. In this case, no.

Meanwhile, latest reports suggests the shooter had no apparent ties to terrorism and was being treated for mental illness and evaluated for PTSD.

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/winger-calls-for-mass-slaughter-of-muslims

[DinahMoeHum]

1. Read his website and puke. . .

http://patdollard.com/2014/03/u-s-civil-rights-commission-wants-obama-to-create-two-new-national-holidays-for-cesar-chavez-and-some-whiny-wwii-jap/

[el_bryanto]

5. Can I just puke without reading that website? Something tells me that might be more pleasant. nt

[redstatebluegirl]

2. Legal question?

If some nut job sitting at home listening to these guys gets all worked up and goes out "hunting for a Muslim" and kills someone, can the guy who instigated the action be tried for murder? I think it is long past time to make right wing media responsible for the actions they cause. You can't yell fire in a movie theater, why is this free speech?

[Cirque du So-What]

12. Your post got me wondering...

so I looked up 'sedition' on Wikipedia, which led to 'seditious conspiracy,' where I found the following gem:

The federal government has never won a sedition case against militia-types, white supremacists, or neo-Nazis. Since World War I, they have won numerous seditious conspiracy cases against Puerto Rican independentistas, communists and others on the left, but no one on the radical right has ever been convicted of plotting to overthrow by force of arms the government of the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seditious_conspiracy

No wonder the RW feels exceptionally emboldened.

[librechik]

3. He'll get his wish when Indonesia and Bangla Desh disappear under the rising ocean.

in about 20 years. Not to mention a lot of other places with no money but lots of Muslims.

Have patience. it's all in the plan.

[csziggy]

4. I think his last name is spelled incorrectly

Should be Dullard.

[giftedgirl77]

6. Evaluated for PTSD for what? Not combat according

to what's been released he did 4 mths in Iraq in 2011. There was no combat missions being ran, the only thing occurring was tearing down the bases.

[NuclearDem]

7. It doesn't matter whether combat missions were run or not.

Plenty of things could have led him to develop PTSD. Accidents, insurgent attacks during the tearing down, witnessing a death...not all psyches are the same, and the same level of trauma can affect different people differently.

Besides, all we know is that he was being assessed for PTSD. That's not necessarily "he had PTSD."

[giftedgirl77]

13. Just like he has a "self proclaimed TBI" also?

There were no fucking insurgent attacks that's what I'm trying to tell you. Those bullshit 4 mth tours were a joke, but ok let's start with the he possibly had PTSD line bc he was a "soldier" & therefore led to a killing spree.

[NuclearDem]

15. Oh, my bad, I didn't know you were in Iraq in 2011.

Or that you had access to this guy's medical records.

[giftedgirl77]

21. The TBI shit was just reported & I just got out of the

military Dec 2013. So I'm well aware of what was going on in Iraq in 2011, it sure as fuck wasn't insurgents but that's cute.

[NuclearDem]

23. Fine, first point retracted.

I'm still not sure how you conclusively know this guy didn't have some sort of mental disorder related to OIF or otherwise.

[giftedgirl77]

24. I'm not saying he didn't have any mental disorders at all.

Hell he may have had PTSD from something. I have a problem with the whole he went ballistic so it must have been from his deployment. There are plenty of us that are truly fucked up that don't go on killing sprees, hell there are a couple of us that have come damn close to the point of killing people in our units & sometimes our units ignore the warnings of our providers.

So maybe what I was trying to say got confused (it happens, I have major neurological issues). It seems the minute an issue with a soldier occurs regardless of consideration of their background it is immediately a PTSD, stonecold killer mentality. I know that's not what this OP was even related to, it just happened to be the one I responded to.

[NuclearDem]

26. True, no argument from that.

Plenty of my old Security Forces friends did multiple tours in Afghanistan and Iraq and came back without major issues, and then there were those that had noncombat roles in the rear that came back all kinds of fucked up (like the six month stint I did at Al Udeid flying surveillance and the PTSD I came back with).

It could have been from his deployment, and it just as easily might not have, regardless of whether he saw combat or not. Or it might not have been because of his time in at all, and something that happened stateside off base. Unless his medical records are released, we just don't know.

Sorry to hear about your situation though. As someone going through it as well, let me just say it gets better and sorry for my earlier snark.

[DonViejo]

9. He may have been suffering PTSD...

for things he experienced prior to his military service, e.g. my oldest son suffers from PTSD from the abuse (being used as a human ashtray and daily beatings) as well as from neglect (not being fed or taken to the MD for medical care) which his birth parents inflicted upon him. The article reports the soldier "was being treated for mental illness and evaluated for PTSD." My son will be 30 years old in August, he still goes to counselling to deal with his anger issues.

[JaneyVee]

8. A coke head alcoholic with a mental disorder.

SHOCKING.

[NuclearDem]

10. I'd recommend a self-delete.

That's dangerously close to over the line.

[JaneyVee]

14. no seriously, he is. Im not smearing him, its the truth.

ETA Not the soldier, the RWNJ tweeter. Sorry about confusion.

[NuclearDem]

17. Sounded much more like addiction and mental disorder shaming.

At least to this alcoholic with a mental disorder.

EDIT: Saw the reply down thread. At least it wasn't directed at the soldier. That's better.

[JaneyVee]

19. I updated, was talking about tweeter, not soldier.

[NuclearDem]

20. Yup, just edited my post.

Glad that got cleared up. Nothing justifies a shooting spree, but they'll only continue if we shame people for mental conditions and addictions.

[JaneyVee]

22. Sorry, I have many close friends and family who

Can relate to what you are going through. My comment wasn't meant shame. Stay strong.

[DonViejo]

11. Have a link to an article reporting

the soldier was "a coke head alcoholic," JaneyVee? If so, please post it, that could be important information for folks to be aware of. Thanks in advance!

[JaneyVee]

16. Im sorry, not the soldier, Tweeter Pat Dollard.

[DonViejo]

18. Ahhh! Thanks for clarifying that JaneyVee, much appreciated. eom

[LeftishBrit]

25. That is also supporting terrorism, and is disgusting!