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hexola

(4,835 posts)
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:37 AM Mar 2012

Quick question about "Stand Your Ground" application.

I guess I understand the essence of the law - what I dont understand is how it's used in the field...

I would have assumed the STG law would have been used as a defense IN COURT...and not as a way to create a pre-judicial moment of judgment.

It's almost like the cops had the trial on the scene - and found Zimm "Not Guilty"

Is this the proper application of this law?

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Quick question about "Stand Your Ground" application. (Original Post) hexola Mar 2012 OP
Mixture zipplewrath Mar 2012 #1
No TheMastersNemesis Mar 2012 #2

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
1. Mixture
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:42 AM
Mar 2012

The law has been applied in the courts by determining if certain cases could even get to a jury in the first place. A judge decides if the SYG law applies and if it does, the jury never hears the case. The police have to determine if they have a case for arresting someone. If they don't, they won't arrest someone, although there may still be a further investigation. A prosecutor was called that night, so they weren't acting alone. At this point, they'd be hard pressed to arrest him, short of a grand jury indictment, or a demonstrable risk that he was about to flee.

The SYG law makes it HARDER to arrest and convict people in this situation. However, the story that's being spun now would have tended to still not generated an arrest. The police were called to the location of a 911 call, because there was a "suspicious person" in the neighborhood. The story gets told that this suspicious person attacked, and the person attacked fought back. It might have been far more "borderline" without SYG, but as it was, without further investigation, the night might have played out just as it did anyway.

SYG needs to be modified to increase the burden on the shooter as they become more provocative in their own behavior. But the colorful story being spun today may have worked with, or without, the SYG law.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
2. No
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:46 AM
Mar 2012

They gave him a pass and covered up a murder. By deliberately not following crime procedures they gave him a free pass to murder. What is left of the evidence most likely will never get any kind of conviction because "reasonable doubt" is all over it. The tapes are not enough and by the time you talk to witnesses now it is too late. The SYG law is also a problem.

To top that amended police reports are most likely a fabrication and a cover up for racist reasons. No doubt the whole department is a "dirty" cop department. It will be difficult for Justice to step in because it will cause huge political problems for Obama. And the memes being put out right now will make it more likely that STG will stand in this case even though is does NOT really apply.

He is already being accused of turning the country over to Moslems and minorities.

They made sure this guy will walk as far as I can tell.

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