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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Police created this mess! They should be the focus.
As one poster pointed out the other day the focus should be on the Police and not on Zimmerman. In fact had the police done their jobs and arrested Zimmerman and done a full investigation in the first place, this never would have been a story and Zimmerman would not be hiding out and fearing for his life now. Perhaps he would have still gotten off but then had a regular life to go back to. I don't think that is possible now, Zimmerman will never have a normal life even if he ends up innocent because the police screwed up. No one won here because the police dropped the ball by most likely assuming Martin was a "hood" and taking Zimmerman by his word and not listening to witness accounts that called other witness accounts into question. Since NO ONE witnessed how the altercation started or ended, police had duty to try and fill in the gaps since those two things are a million times more important than who was beating up who at one point.
We really don't know much right now. No one witnessed how the altercation started or how it ended. We just have bits and pieces before the altercation and during it meaning autopsy reports, ballistics and a skilled team of experts will have to fill in the gaps. It's a tough case but there are a few things that could occur in the investigation to clear things up one way or another. For example who was crying when the shots were fired and did Zimmerman pursue Martin after the fight and gun him down?
This is a huge mess because the police treated a black child with no respect and wanted to sweep this under the rug. That in my opinion is where the focus should be and not on Zimmerman even though he seems like a slime bag. Police need to learn to do their dam jobs and not get lazy just because a kid is wearing a hoodie. EVERY Citizen deserves respect from the Police.
Also, the idiot Black Panthers should be raising money to get Trayvon's parents a good team of top notch lawyers to expose all the mistakes by the police and not be putting a bounty out on anyone.
On Edit: It's also the god dam police who are smearing Trayvon right now trying to cover their piece of shit investigation. These slime bags need to be exposed!
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)What matters is whether or not the grand jury hands down an indictment.
Quixote1818
(28,944 posts)so this kind of thing will stop happening.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)That's another issue.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)The media circus would have been avoided if he'd been treated like anyone else. It gives the appearance of favortism. He could have used the judicial system to be excused with the SYG law then.
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)It's happened before.
starroute
(12,977 posts)They're a fringe bunch of wackos. at best -- and as I look at what I've quoted below, I'm not all that sure they aren't a false flag operation of the GOP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Black_Panther_Party
The New Black Panther Party (NBPP), whose formal name is the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, is a U.S.-based black political organization founded in Dallas, Texas in 1989. Despite its name, NBPP is not an official successor to the Black Panther Party. Members of the original Black Panther Party have insisted that the newer party is illegitimate and have firmly declared that "there is no new Black Panther Party". The Anti-Defamation League, the Southern Poverty Law Center, and the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights consider the New Black Panthers to be a hate group. . . .
The NBPP is largely seen by both the general public and by prominent members of the original party as illegitimate. Huey Newton Foundation members, containing a significant number of the original party's leaders, once successfully sued the group; their ultimate objective in doing so to prevent the NBPP from using the Panther name appears to have been unsuccessful. . . .
The New Black Panther Party provoked a melee outside Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney's campaign headquarters after she had lost a Democratic primary election to her opponent, Hank Johnson. The NBPP's Chief of Staff, Hashim Nzinga, had been acting as security detail for McKinney when he physically attacked reporters, calling them "Jews" and insisting that they must focus on Hank Johnson rather than on McKinney, since Johnson, he alleged, was a "Tom". In a subsequent appearance on the Fox News Channel program Hannity & Colmes, Nzinga defended these actions. He accused his interviewers of being part of a Zionist media complex bent on defaming African Americans and, by extension, the New Black Panthers. . . .
During the 2008 presidential election, poll watchers found two New Black Panther militia members shouting racial slurs outside a polling place in Philadelphia. One of the two was a credentialed poll watcher, while the other was a New Black Panther member who had brought a police-style nightstick baton. A University of Pennsylvania student, Stephen Robert Morse, was hired by the local Republican Party on behalf of the John McCain presidential campaign to film the incident. His video aired on several news outlets throughout the country. Republican poll watcher Chris Hill stated that voters had been complaining about intimidation, while the District Attorney's office stated that they had not been contacted by any voters.
Probably not idiots after all. More likely paid provocateurs
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)They publicly announced on February 29 that they planned to turn over the information to the state attorney.
On March 12 they announced that they were ready to turn it over to the state attorney.
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/TwinLakesTownhomesShootingUpDate.pdf
They turned it over to the state attorney, just as they said they would.
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/TwinLakesTownhomesShootingUpDate2.pdf
The fact that every bit of evidence collected at the scene, photos, medical examination results, every word of every interview with every suspect, etc. have not been published on the Web proves nothing.
If they botched the investigation or were negligent, that will become clear AFTER the grand jury decides what to do. If the grand jury is unable to figure out what really happened, then and only then will I be convinced that the Sanford PD screwed up, or worse.
People are being very impatient. The grand jury won't even start working on the case until April 10 at the earliest. I really don't like the mob mentality that is being intentionally drummed up, or the way the media are releasing "new" twists and surprises every day in a transparent effort to sustain interest.
Quixote1818
(28,944 posts)to give their side but no one would call them back so they went to the media? What about sending a narcotics investigator to the scene and not a homicide investigator?