How much freedom did Obamacare cost us?

[kpete]

TUE APR 01, 2014 AT 07:30 AM PDT
How much freedom did Obamacare cost us?
bykos

Serious question. We're going to see around seven million people get private insurance (as the Heritage Foundation intended) through the exchanges. Medicaid expansion will deliver health insurance to anywhere between 4.7 and 6.5 million more. And don't forget the three million or so young adults who are able to stay on their parents' insurance until they're 26.

So ... how much freedom did that cost us?

You see, conservatives keep talking about the "death of freedom" and the jackbooted Obamacare Nazi Alinsky thugs who will [fill in the blank and make it really horrible]. So now that the Affordable Care Act has been (mostly) implemented and millions of people now have insurance when they didn't before, or are paying less for better insurance than they had before, it's time for a proper accounting.

Anyone know how much freedom was lost? Was it, like, 13? More than that?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/01/1288767/-How-much-freedom-did-Obamacare-cost-us

[NuclearDem]

1. Obamacare accidentally freedom.

All of it.

[tridim]

2. Damn you Obama for taking away the freedom of insurance co's to screw people at will!

Racist Repubs are worried that they have lost their freedom to hate everything the black president has done for them, even though they are white. It makes no sense to them.

[Demo_Chris]

3. It cost you the freedom to choose who you will or will not do business with...

That's so fucking huge it staggers the imagination.

[rhett o rick]

12. Are you being sarcastic? nm

[Demo_Chris]

13. Are you? Do you not understand the implications of this?

The Foundation of our capitalist society is the freedom to do business, or not, with partners of our choosing. This strips that away, and it is unprecedented. You no longer have that freedom. We have abandoned capitalism, not for socialism as the talk-radio right so often claims, but for the grinding gears of soulless corporatism.

If you don't think the ACA sets a precedent, think again. ANYTHING that the government claims to be a necessity or public good can now be mandated in this way. Any private corporate product or offering. If I can dream it up, so can the fine folks at Chase. The only limit is the imagination and wallet of the corporate ghoul lobbying for it.

[rhett o rick]

14. If you arent then let's go at it. You said, "It cost you the freedom to choose who you will or will

not do business with..." Wrong. It doesnt effect me at all directly. In fact it doesnt effect 85% of Americans that arent affected by the ACA.

"The Foundation of our capitalist society is the freedom to do business, or not, with partners of our choosing. " First of all I dont believe that at all. There are lots of regulations. Second, if it did apply, we should change it.

The ACA is saving millions of lives. If that is a precedent, then great.

[Demobrat]

4. It took away your right

To lose everything you worked for all your life if you get sick.

[Scuba]

5. It took away the right of employers to bind you to a shitty job because for the insurance.

[spinbaby]

6. +1

Because of Obamacare, we'll be able to retire before we hit Medicare age and spend our time with reading and gardening and all those other non-profitable activities.

[rhett o rick]

8. And I think that right is in the Constitution (for employers to bind you to a shitty job)

Expect the SCOTUS to repeal Obamacare any day.

[Tikki]

7. It took away our freedom to keep money in a special account to pay for our adult son's..

medical care if he needed it.
Now we are free to spend that money on something for ourselves…"bad parents, bad parents."


The Tikkis

[rhett o rick]

9. I dont get how you came up with a number like 13.

I can only get 12 1/2.

[Bandit]

11. Did you divide by seven and change the X to Y

Most people forget that part.

[Arkana]

10. I've only got about a third of my winter stock of freedom left.

Damn Obamacare consumes freedom at a crazy-ass rate.

[Aristus]

15. Affordable Care Act Freedom Loss Level: 11.

The repubs will no doubt wish to move to North Korea, which must have more freedom than us by now...

[moondust]

16. Some crooks and swindlers lost some freedom...

to be crooks and swindlers. They hate that.