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How would you all feel about a Clinton/O'Malley ticket in 2016? (Original Post) FarLeftFist Mar 2012 OP
Hilary doesn't want to run for President. Period. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2012 #1
Correct. And who is O'Malley? freshwest Mar 2012 #2
I have NO idea! CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2012 #3
Well, we had a lot of help quick on that! How about Warren/Grayson? freshwest Mar 2012 #10
I think Warren be would be better served in the Senate for a couple of years, a great ally. Also, FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #14
Well, O'Malley as Governor is good. But he's not from a big state, though. A lot of influence, true, freshwest Mar 2012 #19
I see your point, but I sometimes think that people would respond to his no bullshit gateley Mar 2012 #24
They certainly would if the media gave him a chance to talk! freshwest Mar 2012 #28
Maryland Governor. elleng Mar 2012 #6
Governor of Maryland CakeGrrl Mar 2012 #7
The governor of Maryland Son of Gob Mar 2012 #8
See him here dismantle Bob McDonnell in front of his face. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #12
Let me see if that'll play. He sounds like a progressive, signing that bill. freshwest Mar 2012 #20
Oh, I remember this one. Sounds like a great Democrat! freshwest Mar 2012 #22
And not afraid, dismantled McDonnell and conservative ideology right to his face. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #27
Hell yes for O'Malley edgineered Mar 2012 #32
Governor Martin O"Malley, Maryland FSogol Mar 2012 #38
Guessing the Governor of Maryland Xyzse Mar 2012 #40
Progressive Dem Governor of Maryland. He's smart and he's attractive. I saw him get into it CTyankee Mar 2012 #44
I'm thinking O'Malley and VP Warren. Both have powerful minds and hearts. freshwest Mar 2012 #47
I'm tired of thinking as women only as VP candidates, not Pres. It's way past time for CTyankee Mar 2012 #52
The only reason I put her in the VP slot is the old Governors are better meme. But that didn't stop freshwest Mar 2012 #54
Not taking Hillary at her word, then? CakeGrrl Mar 2012 #4
No thanks Son of Gob Mar 2012 #5
If you say no please add reasoning. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #9
How about an FDR Democrat like Liz Warren for a change? MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #11
What Manny said..... marmar Mar 2012 #16
Clinton for the WIN factor and name recognition, O'Malley to keep her left-minded during presidency. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #17
I was just discussing this with a Hillary supporter the other day, and I never knew, before gateley Mar 2012 #31
Would love to see O'Malley run. CC Mar 2012 #13
No thanks. marmar Mar 2012 #15
Perhaps Cuomo/O'Malley 2016? FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #18
No TorchTheWitch Mar 2012 #21
Can the Clintons have a rest? jberryhill Mar 2012 #23
O'Malley's March to the White House kwassa Mar 2012 #25
Introducing Gov. O'Malley safeinOhio Mar 2012 #26
Hillary is not going to run. boxman15 Mar 2012 #29
Clinton ain't running, but O'Malley is my favorite in '16... Drunken Irishman Mar 2012 #30
Makes my heart beat faster. Yes. emilyg Mar 2012 #33
She said she would not run DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #34
I'm old. Want to see a woman prez. before I die. emilyg Mar 2012 #36
ok, any woman DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #43
Me, too. I voted for Hillary in my CT primary because I wanted the feeling that I had at least CTyankee Mar 2012 #45
I even wrote in her name in general. emilyg Mar 2012 #50
Bless your heart. AtomicKitten Mar 2012 #55
You want to REALLY stomp the Republicans and fire up the Democrats? jmowreader Mar 2012 #35
Schweitzer has been a fave of mine since I heard Al Franken interview him on his Air America CTyankee Mar 2012 #53
let's get thru this election first before beginning to speculate on 2016? WI_DEM Mar 2012 #37
+1 n/t FSogol Mar 2012 #39
I don't think HRC is going to run, and I don't like the idea of hifiguy Mar 2012 #41
I can see it. MrSlayer Mar 2012 #42
Yes. Trump who is a emilyg Mar 2012 #56
I think Hillary means it when she is going to retire, but..... Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2012 #46
Ironic - Tommy Carcetti endorses O'Malley JPZenger Mar 2012 #49
They claim Carcetti was a composite character..... Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2012 #51
Hillary Looks very tired, O'Malley may be presidential candidate in 2016 JPZenger Mar 2012 #48

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
10. Well, we had a lot of help quick on that! How about Warren/Grayson?
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:48 PM
Mar 2012

She can figure things out and he can keep the pubbies in line. Sometimes the VP does a lot of the talking.

Anyone else you have in mind?

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
14. I think Warren be would be better served in the Senate for a couple of years, a great ally. Also,
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:53 PM
Mar 2012

And don't get me wrong, I LOVE Grayson's style, but I'm looking to WIN. ALOT of people in this country view Grayson as a bit 'out there', similar to Kucinich who just recently lost.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
19. Well, O'Malley as Governor is good. But he's not from a big state, though. A lot of influence, true,
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:58 PM
Mar 2012

But almost unknown in the rest of the country as a whole. What is he about, has he been there a long time, etc.?

gateley

(62,683 posts)
24. I see your point, but I sometimes think that people would respond to his no bullshit
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:05 PM
Mar 2012

manner -- like the Republicans do with Chris Christie.

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
27. And not afraid, dismantled McDonnell and conservative ideology right to his face.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:16 PM
Mar 2012

I think he could keep Hillary to the Left while rallying that base and Hillary would win MANY Independents, women, blue collar, Unions, etc.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
32. Hell yes for O'Malley
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:39 PM
Mar 2012

I watched TRMS that night and could not believe how O'Malley dominated and destroyed McDonnell, not with a personal attack that is the norm, but on his political stance. Thanks for the link!

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
40. Guessing the Governor of Maryland
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 12:27 PM
Mar 2012

If I am not mistaken.

Either way, I don't think so. There should be other prominent Democrats to step up.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
44. Progressive Dem Governor of Maryland. He's smart and he's attractive. I saw him get into it
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:51 PM
Mar 2012

with Gov. Christie in some debate and the difference between the likeable, intelligent O'Malley and the snarling, in yer face Christie was really a sight to behold! God help Christie if he is on the national ticket in 2016 against O'Malley. Or Warren, for that matter.

Warren/O'Malley would be an incredibly powerful match.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
52. I'm tired of thinking as women only as VP candidates, not Pres. It's way past time for
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 03:28 PM
Mar 2012

a woman candidate and Warren is more than qualified to be president, particularly after some years in the Senate.

There are more women in the legislature of Afghanistan than in the U.S. We ought to be ashamed of ourselves.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
54. The only reason I put her in the VP slot is the old Governors are better meme. But that didn't stop
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 03:44 PM
Mar 2012

Senator Obama from winning, did it?

And it would be much better than any of the faux feministas of the GOP.

In the meantime, Obama is it for 2012.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
4. Not taking Hillary at her word, then?
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:45 PM
Mar 2012

She's said repeatedly that she doesn't want to run.

And what's this "base" of which you speak? You'll be contending with the anti-DLC crowd who want a completely fresh start. Good luck with that.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
11. How about an FDR Democrat like Liz Warren for a change?
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:49 PM
Mar 2012

It's time to admit to ourselves that the third-way thing isn't working out.

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
17. Clinton for the WIN factor and name recognition, O'Malley to keep her left-minded during presidency.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:57 PM
Mar 2012

Although I believe Hillary is alot more Left than we believe. ALOT. And because she see's how far to the right the RWers have gone.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
31. I was just discussing this with a Hillary supporter the other day, and I never knew, before
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:27 PM
Mar 2012

the 2008 campaign, how much Clinton hate there is. I think the Republicans hate the Clintons like we hate the Bushes. And after the woeful turnout for the mid-terms, I'm not confident the Dems are going to show up in 2016.

CC

(8,039 posts)
13. Would love to see O'Malley run.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:50 PM
Mar 2012

But Clinton no to another run.



For those that do not know who O'Malley is, he is the gov. of MD.



TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
21. No
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:00 PM
Mar 2012

No more DLC'ers. No more Clintons, no more Bushes. No more family presidencies - it stinks of monarchy.

I have absolutely no damn idea who O'Malley is.

Suppose we focus on the election at hand? DU always seems to like puzzling out elections years down the road rather than the one hear and now. It smacks of politics as sport.


 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
23. Can the Clintons have a rest?
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:05 PM
Mar 2012

They've earned it.

Let's see some up and comers in the batting line up. There are 300 million people in this country. I'm sure sure many of them will be over 35 years old in 2016, citizens by birth, and 14 years a resident.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
25. O'Malley's March to the White House
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:09 PM
Mar 2012

O'Malley may well be the next Dem nominee.

A great local Dem governor with his own great Irish band



boxman15

(1,033 posts)
29. Hillary is not going to run.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:23 PM
Mar 2012

I'd love to see O'Malley run in 2016, though. I think he'd make a great president.

But let's focus on 2012 first. And then 2014.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
34. She said she would not run
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:45 AM
Mar 2012

And frankly, if we learned anything these last few years, it is that we need to skew TO THE LEFT. Sadly,Clinton would have made the same mistake O did, try to make friends with the opposition.

O did not disappoint because he did not act like Clinton, but that he acted TOO MUCH like Clinton, with the same appointees, and the same "let's bring people together" error. He need someone that willo GET IN THE RIGHT WING"S FACE and smash teeth!

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
43. ok, any woman
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:04 PM
Mar 2012

I do not think you will want the sort the GOP provide, and frankly, whatever can be said about Hillary, let's have no illusions about her being to the left. She has years in the senate, and on her campaign, to prove she was, but instead, she let Bill slobber all over the place. I still have hoper for the Gillibrands, the Sibeliuse, the napolitanos, and the warrens.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
45. Me, too. I voted for Hillary in my CT primary because I wanted the feeling that I had at least
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:56 PM
Mar 2012

ONCE voted for a woman for president. My early favorite, John (may he rot in hell) Edwards, had dropped out before the primary and thank god for that.

I think a Warren/O'Malley ticket would be so attractive and appealing to so many people that it would be a natural. However, the only drawback, if that drawback still exists, would be region. Maybe Warren/Schweitzer (bringing in the mountain west states) would work better. But I'd hate to give up O'Malley.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
35. You want to REALLY stomp the Republicans and fire up the Democrats?
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 02:34 AM
Mar 2012

Brian Schweitzer/Martin O'Malley 2016

Montana is red as a Corvette and still reelected Brian Schweitzer. Because he's so fucking good.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
53. Schweitzer has been a fave of mine since I heard Al Franken interview him on his Air America
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 03:31 PM
Mar 2012

radio show back in 07.

But I want a woman running for president on the Dem ticket in 2016. We've got many, many great women to choose from. Why is it so hard to bring down that glass ceiling at long last?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
41. I don't think HRC is going to run, and I don't like the idea of
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 12:34 PM
Mar 2012

dynasties.

Everything I've heard about O'Malley I like so far.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
42. I can see it.
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 12:38 PM
Mar 2012

Hillary says she's done with politics but I can see her retiring from State if President Obama wins a second term to recharge her batteries for a final run for the Presidency.

It could happen and probably will.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
46. I think Hillary means it when she is going to retire, but.....
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:57 PM
Mar 2012

.....I love the idea of Martin O'Malley being on the 2016, whether it be top or bottom.

But I don't think Hillary's going to run. Between her and Bill, I don't think there are two people with a more impressive list of accomplishments and I think they've probably reached the apex. Bill will be doing his thing worldwide, and Hillary will be over 70, I believe. Perhaps Chelsea will be a mom by then and maybe Hillary might want to just enjoy sitting back and being a grandparent. But I don't know.

But yes definitely to O'Malley. Maryland has avoided the worst of the Great Recession thanks to O'Malley's policies, and Maryland has arguably the best public education system in the state. Plus the guy is a rock star. Literally. A rock star.

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
49. Ironic - Tommy Carcetti endorses O'Malley
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 02:55 PM
Mar 2012

That's great - in the above post, fictional Baltimore Mayor and Md. Governor Carcetti endorses real-life Baltimore Mayor and Md. Governor O'Malley.

The writers of the The Wire insist that Carcetti was not based upon O'Malley. In fact, most of the events in the Wire are loosely based upon things that happened in Baltimore in earlier years.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
51. They claim Carcetti was a composite character.....
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 03:00 PM
Mar 2012

...however, the scene where Carcetti had to go to Annapolis to beg for school funding from the governor was straight out of an incident involving then-Mayor O'Malley and then-Governor Robert Erlich. As a nod to the situation, Erlich himself played the Governor's security guard in that scene.

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
48. Hillary Looks very tired, O'Malley may be presidential candidate in 2016
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 02:53 PM
Mar 2012

I think voters will be looking for someone who cannot be blamed for the impasses in DC. O'Malley seems to be towards the top of the list for 2016.

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