The smear of Trayvon Martin is backfiring

[MrScorpio]

The supporters of Zimmerman are stoking the fires of outrage and indignation with lies and distortion.

The people standing with Trayvon are not standing down, they're standing with justice.

[spanone]

1. k&r...

[rustydog]

2. What sickens me is even if, and it's an enormous IF,

One one thousandth of their claims were true...
it still does not change the facts surrounding the murder.

Trayvon was judged guilty of being black in Zimmerman's subdivision and Zimmerman meted outswift "justice" then got to go home and enjoy dinner in his home.

[JDPriestly]

3. All the accusations against Tryvon, even if true, would not

change his right to be treated as a victim until proven otherwise in a court of law.

Taking the consideration of the facts surrounding a possible murder charge out of the purview of a jury and judge is just unthinkable.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

5. +1 n/t

[Retrograde]

20. Too true

Saint or not, it doesn't matter: Martin had every right to walk where he did and Zimmerman had no right to challenge him. Period. I see an effort by Zimmerman's defenders to portray Martin as a doped-out thug, but it's irrelevant: even if true there was no justification for shooting.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. Well people are seeing the claims of drug use...maybe

As completely unrelated.

And kids try weed, so what?

[nanabugg]

9. And weed doesn't make one an aggressor unless mixed with something else.

You weedies know, all you want to do is chill and eat brownies.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Brownies, weed, giggling teenagers

and worried parents...I will leave it at that.

[Stan Smith]

14. They act as if weed is something horrible.

When in reality weed is only bad because some rich white men decided that they wanted to make it illegal.
They didn't learn a damn thing from Prohibition. The real crime is not that Trayvon may have had weed, the real crime is that a racist asshole blew him away for the crime of being black.

[1monster]

24. They learned a lot from prohibition. Make anything illegal that hitherto has been

legal and used by the people, and there is mucho money to be made for some, and mucho power to be had for others... Also, mucho money and mucho power for the few.

[Pachamama]

30. Was Trayvon ever "charged" with possession? All I have heard is a "bag" with residue was found.

When Trayvon's body was "tested" (unlike the murderer) they found no drugs in his system. From all I have heard, Trayvon was suspended for the fact that he had this bag in his possesion, not that he had possession of the drug itself. I have heard nothing that he was ever tested positively for drugs.

Truancy? Show me any kid, that hasnt "cut" school once in their life (oh yes, and that incudes parents falsely excusing their kids saying they are sick when its to go catch a plane for a holiday to Aspen or Hawaii....that too is truancy from school).....

Vandalism? There are many things that can be classified as vandalism and it could be something as simple as deciding to remove some school property from one area to another....all it takes is pissing off the wrong teacher or administrator and you can be suspended for a lot of things. When I was in highschool, a bunch of my friends on the cheer team went to the rival school and "decorated" and were charged with vandalism and per state educational rules had to be suspended for a few days and go clean it up. Oh yeah, they were all priveleged white kids including the daughter of a mid-west Senator.

Bottom line is they can try to paint Trayvon as a pot-smoking juvenile delinquent.....he is no different than any other highschool kid in America, regardless of race, socio-economic background etc. And none of the things he's been "accused" of are something that should change the minds of anyone about who Trayvon was.....a good kid in the prime of his life with a future ahead of him, stalked and killed by a man with a record (domestic violence, assaulting a police officer) as he came back from a 7-11 with his Skittles and Ice Tea as he walked home to his fathers house.

The real situation:
A police force that failed to investigate and conduct a real investigation and take forensic evidence, photos of crime scene etc. A killer with an arrest record allowed to go free and stand behind a law that allows to shoot first and ask no questions of the dead. A dead child left to lay in the morgue as a John Doe as his parents worried why he hadnt come home.

And they want us to believe Trayvon is what????

[mainer]

32. EXACTLY. If this was leaked by the police, how would they know about it?

Was Trayvon ever charged with possession? How come there's no arrest record? And if there's no arrest record, how did the police know the reason for his suspension?

Did they make it all up?

[SmileyRose]

6. I heard it and my brain said "WTF?!"

1. Who's the stupid idiot that put this out in the media.
2. Who's the stupid idiot in the media that catapulted this.

Like things weren't already restless enough....... may as well add some fuel. Unbelievable.

[Blue_Tires]

34. Clearly a cop or someone connected somewhere leaked it

When one of their own gets burned (Sanford Police chief, among others) for what they believe are political reasons, they strike back in their own way, hard and heavy...It wouldn't surprise me if Zimmerman's attorney had a pipeline of info coming from officers connected to the case -- Sanford police have already been tainted as corrupt, incompetent and indifferent, so why not go full retard? There's no reputation or pride to salvage, and if Zimmerman isn't fully exonerated, some or all of them are going to lose their jobs anyway...

Right now they are probably spending more time digging into Martin's past instead of investigating the case, and they haven't even started to fight dirty yet...Coming up next? Criminal records of Martin's parents/siblings/close relatives...Bank on it

[meanit]

7. The right wing

is exposing themselves for the vicious racists that they are. They may have the bigger microphones, so they could win the screeching contest, but to what avail? They are defending a man who shot down an unarmed youth and most people besides the FOX news crowd knows it. Why would any thinking person vote for or support politicians that these talking heads carry water for?

[freshwest]

41. +1

[Lifelong Protester]

8. we will not stand down

we have to stand strong on this.

America, do NOT move on to the 'next thing' until justice is served.

[robinlynne]

22. There is no doubt Zimmerman is going down. They better not even think about possibility of parole.

[1monster]

25. In Florida, one has to serve 85% of his/her sentence before becoming eligible

for parole.

[Joseph8th]

10. Exactly! Enough of the bullies! Never let up the pressure! nt

[goclark]

11. +1

[Uncle Joe]

13. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, MrScorpio.

[Skraxx]

15. Big time

Not only that, this like nothing else will energize people to effect change.

[WillyT]

16. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[MindandSoul]

17. Yes, these people are disgusting, demonizing a kid for their own political goals

[Hoyt]

18. I know what happened in my mind. But I hope those investigating now, find some good witnesses if

it gets to court. But, what will really tick me off is if they taint this innocent young man. Unfortunately, they will keep trying.

[C_U_L8R]

19. The cover-up gets these creeps every time

once they start lying, the whole thing unravels

[Canuckistanian]

21. Even if true

The lies have ZERO bearing on the rage that's building.

They're totally irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

[robinlynne]

23. You got it. This is just like Emmett Till. this is just like so many huge injustices throughout

history. There is no way they can get away with this.

[Old and In the Way]

26. I agree

The Right always seems to react to what the Left does. Once we take a side, they naturally take the opposite position. No doubt, had we concluded Zimmerman was the victim, they'd be taking up Trayvon's cause. Unfortunately for them, they are again on the wrong side of the issue. I notice that they always seem to wait until they see how a controversial story develops and which side the Left supports. Because we're more honest brokers about facts and how we support the issue, they become the champions of the wrong side of the issue. In this case, the issues are bad law (SYG - ALEC/Koch/GOP) and guns...so they have to be on Zimmerman's side, no matter how morally disgusting their defense is. Sucks to be them.

[sarge43]

27. People are taking the smears personally

Black kid murdered: That could be my child

Woman called a slut: That could be my sister

Immigrants slandered: That could have been my grandfather

Gays and lesbians maligned: That could be my neighbors

Faith questioned: That could be my co-worker

The poor attacked: That's me

Keep it up bigots. You're pissing off the silent majority and it's finding its voice.

[Pachamama]

29. Shuffle any of those answers around and people identify.....

In any case, people are starting to say enough and identify with all the attacks....

Yes, the silent majority is starting to find its voice as the bigots step-up their assault....

[yardwork]

35. good post

Good thread

[SalviaBlue]

36. This is a really great reply! Well Put. Simple. True.

[Pachamama]

28. The Smear Campaign is making people angrier & more resolved in their demands for Justice...

It is just emphasizing more the corruption and incompetence of the Sanford Police, the racism and bias that exists and why George Zimmerman needs to be arrested and charged.

The attempt to try this case in the public arena, smear Trayvon as a pot-smoking juvenile delinquent and George Zimmerman as a clean-cut upstanding citizen (w/ Black friends!) is disgusting and wrong. The new meme that the Zimmerman supporters are pushing that he was attacked by Trayvon first sounds so disengenius that it only is drawing more attention to how badly Mr George Zimmerman needs to be arrested and charged and how bad things are with the Sanford Police Dept. And meanwhile, if they think its going to help their case, its not....its going to make things worse and actually incite more racial tension.....



Then again, maybe that's the idea and goal....

[BlueIris]

31. Good.

Attempts to smear a murder victim are the lowest of the low. I can't believe the lie mongers thought it would work, frankly.

[Blue_Tires]

33. I've only strengthened my resolve...

kick

[gateley]

37. I think most people made up their minds pretty early on, and what comes out (on both sides, true

or false) will only strengthen their convictions.

For example, I feel Zimmerman was wrong and essentially stalking/following/harrassing Trayvon.

Hearing about Trayvon's school suspensions and other alleged problems doesn't change my mind that Zimmerman needs to be arrested and charged.

Those who felt that Zimmerman was in the right wouldn't change their minds regardless of what evidence might be presented -- they'd hold on to the school/whatever issues as proof he "asked for it".

Its' like that with most issues, I think. Very little comes down the pike that will change minds in a substantive way, IMO.

[RufusTFirefly]

40. It shouldn't be a matter of opinion. It should be a LEGAL matter.

WTF are the cops doing letting a guy who killed a kid go free? Regardless of his guilt or innocence, Zimmerman should've been hauled in to the police station. There's no way he should've been released at the scene of the crime.

All other information about the pasts of both Zimmerman and Martin are completely irrelevant in that respect -- like the distractors in an old-fashioned math word problem.

What occurred only serves to reinforce a Northerner's worst nightmares about corrupt racist Southern cops.

[ellisonz]

38. Ain't that the truth...

[underpants]

39. The smear is actually cutting away the fray to the central questions

Why was he killed?
Why did the cops screw up so much?

Those were always the root of the story.