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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy are you so mad about what happened at Sanford?
The Trayvon Martin killing is galling in two distinct ways. The one is actually understandable and unpreventable; the other is much more aggravating and disturbing in its frequency.
The part that is not preventable, save for the decimation of a constitutionally protected freedom, is a man taking it upon himself to be the self appointed neighborhood watchmen for those who would dare go bump in his night. He carried a gun because, Damn it! It his right. It made him feel big, it made him feel strong, it drugged his blood with adrenaline and made him confront that dark skinned fucking coon, a manifestation of all those assholes that got away from the 46 other times he called the police. Confrontation, fight, cries for help (to be fair we dont know for sure whos cries they actually were
yet) gun shot, and an unarmed kid, up to no bad, trying to get back to his family, is dead. These tragedies will continue to happen, society will always include those who make decisions poorly.
The second aspect of this case is sickening, and the only reason we are hearing about this at all, the attempted police cover up and the utter failure to treat a capital murder case, and the victim of it, with the respect and dignity expected from a modern police force. The police didnt treat Trayvon as a person, they treated him like just another Hes bl-ack statistic, unimportant, easily dismissed, and easily swept under the proverbial rug, and it almost worked
WHO THE FUCK DO THE POLICE THINK THEY ARE!!?? SERIOUSLY?
The police lie
a lot, and I for one am sick of it. Think about this, every word you say to a cop is admissible in a court of law, yet there is no way to insure that they are ever telling the truth
oh wait there is, and its cheap.
How can there be a cheap, easy solution, for all of our countries unprofessional, over zealous, and abusive police? You may ask, and I will answer. Helmet cam technology. For a one time, low price of $75 to $200 (depending on model) per on duty officer, every police force will have a publicly available (with redacted consideration for an officers non official privacy of course) and court admissible documentary of every call, every case, every order, and every utterance, heard or said, by the individual officer while on the clock. Helmet cam technology, will protect the police from lawsuit when they follow procedure, and allow swift reprimand of corrupt officers where they dont.
And for those who say helmet cams would infringes on the police officers civil liberties
The police dont have civil liberties when they are performing their paid vocational duty, they are the direct hand of government, the watchmen of society already, they are big brother. Not to mention the fact that no civil liberties exist at all for you if a cop takes them away and theres no one around to see him do it, and youve been denied the way to prove otherwise.
So who watches the watchmen? We make them watch themselves, then watch what they were watching, and become roiled only when the system does not police itself.
Trayvons death is a tragedy, but its the police who truly made it so.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)And welcome to DU!
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)I simply cannot stomach such laws, as they reek of fascism in action.
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)It may be dangerous.
It may get you arrested.
But it is not illegal.
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)The states may say this but constitutionally it is not illegal.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)good idea.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)atheistprogress
(30 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)atheistprogress
(30 posts)TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)No, no damn way do I want a helmet cam on the heads of police officers so they can film me behaving like a normal person whether or not they're even engaged in speaking to me or whether or not I even know they're around at all. If the police want to spy on me they can get a damn warrant.
I already hate it that we live in a culture of everyone being an amature papparazzi and everyone else being a celebrity. Putting cameras and videos into mobile phones was a really bad idea, and I was horrified of it when I first found out about it. What ever happened to people having the common courtesy to mind their own fucking business? Anyone that wants to film me can ask my permission FIRST and PAY me for providing them and whatever they want to do with the film such entertainment.
Triloon
(506 posts)are free.
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)they always wave good-bye. Isn't that sweet?
atheistprogress
(30 posts)But think about this, every cop you meet is an idiot. This is fact, if you are too smart, and test too well, you cant be an officer under the current system. However, if there was a system that was devoted more to watching what the cop was doing, we wouldnt have to worry so much about the smart criminal becoming a cop because we as a society would have a better way to evaluate the moral and ethical behavior of every single officer. Yes dealing with cops really sucks, never gonna change, i just want to see things better. And a solid way to hold our police accountable sounds great to me.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Why do you say that? I have known smart police officers. One was the father of a friend of one of my children. I'm sorry, but I disagree with you on that.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)if you are too smart, and you test too well, you cannot be a teacher! Anti-intellectualism is thriving in our pathetic, disintegrating nation.
(I realize this is off-topic, but it is extremely salient to me how much we vilify intelligence in most disciplines, and yet we project a 'false intelligence' on the sociopathic Corporate Megalomaniacs who've usurped our media, our politics and our global economy.)
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Because your right to not be filmed (and thus require permission and pay) ends when you go out in public. If the photons and sound waves can be detected by any random passer-by, then they can be recorded by a camera.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)As someone who worked in Sanford, FL for a while, I know what little racist Florida towns are all about. As someone who is quite familiar with local govt, I also know that shit in a police dept flows "downhill".
Also, when it comes to video technology in a helmet, you're talking secured data, which is a bit more expensive for law enforcement to continually manage than you figured.
All said, accountability of a police force doesn't need technology to "protect and serve". It takes leadership and an adherence to ethics, which you only get when major positions in Sanford GO (as in, never come back, and top down changes.
I keep saying during all the unbelievable news of these days that there are good police, and people who want to do well. We have not seen it in Sanford.
FiggyJay
(55 posts)my hubby and I saw rows of police that had no identification and their helmets masked their faces. It was disconcerting to say the least. Helmet cams could have been beneficial - at least the police brutality would have been filmed by the cop/perp.