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Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 07:14 PM Mar 2014

To the CEO of Hobby Lobby

Last edited Sat Mar 29, 2014, 08:14 PM - Edit history (1)

Dear Corporate Head:

I drove by the new Lakewood, Washington store today. I spend a lot of money on art supplies, so seeing your spanking new store should have sent me swooning into the parking lot waving my debit card. But I won't be doing that. Sadly, I can't support a store who fails to provide basic health care coverage for workers and uses faith to justify such a policy.

I know that I am just one potential customer, but I am not the only one who feels this way. I will never feel welcome in your store because of your decision to treat women's reproductive health issues as within your right to control.

I am sad as I suspect I could easily have become a valued customer.

***********************************************


You can leave them a message too -- if you are so inclined.

http://www.hobbylobby.com/customer_service/contact_us_form.cfm?company=1&addr=1&dept=1&mypage=1

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To the CEO of Hobby Lobby (Original Post) Generic Other Mar 2014 OP
Dear mercuryblues Mar 2014 #1
Dear Holly Lobby glinda Mar 2014 #2
They are a brand-new presence in my area Generic Other Mar 2014 #3
My sympathies..... glinda Mar 2014 #48
I think I may just do that (leave them a message). Control-Z Mar 2014 #4
Clicked on your link. Control-Z Mar 2014 #5
Oops Generic Other Mar 2014 #7
I kind of feel the same way... bayareaboy Mar 2014 #6
Seriously I hate that the art supply stores have become sellers of crap Generic Other Mar 2014 #8
Gotta love the term... 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #9
"Artsy-crapsy"! Sounds like a good generic slogan for Hobby Lobby. calimary Mar 2014 #11
Viagra + money = big man. Generic Other Mar 2014 #16
Regretsy Treant Mar 2014 #31
Done. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #10
We are the target group for this Hobby Lobby outfit Generic Other Mar 2014 #18
Went to the link mwyn8 Mar 2014 #12
You would be the poster child for their dream customer! Generic Other Mar 2014 #21
Ditto joanbarnes Mar 2014 #13
forcing men to have maternity coverage...politically worth it? quadrature Mar 2014 #14
Forcing women to have babies is the alternative? Generic Other Mar 2014 #17
Yep mwyn8 Mar 2014 #20
There are a number of countries with maternity leave for both Generic Other Mar 2014 #22
That is because those countries value their citizens. Brigid Mar 2014 #28
Ding, ding, ding--correct answer! TexasTowelie Mar 2014 #29
Thanks Texas Towelie mwyn8 Mar 2014 #40
There is a Hobby Lobby not too far from my house. progressoid Mar 2014 #15
VOTE WITH YOUR DOLLARS rurallib Mar 2014 #19
Dear Hobby Lobby: christx30 Mar 2014 #23
Done. n/t onestepforward Mar 2014 #24
I am starting to think the CEO needs to be glitter bombed! Generic Other Mar 2014 #25
Good idea blahdeblahblahblah Mar 2014 #27
I suggest dung dropping, but a lot of those people wouldn't be able to distinguish it from their own TexasTowelie Mar 2014 #30
I don't know, dung lacks that festive quality... blahdeblahblahblah Mar 2014 #42
There are people who really hate glitter. In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #46
Done, thank you for doing the legwork. Great idea! DrewFlorida Mar 2014 #26
you framed the benefit correctly...we are talking about BASIC HEALTH CARE and wiggs Mar 2014 #32
They will learn what Papa John's, Appleby's, Chik-filet (xsp?), and other such reactionary fools tblue37 Mar 2014 #33
Thank you for the link... chillfactor Mar 2014 #34
Dear Hobbylobby isitreal Mar 2014 #35
WELL said. mwyn8 Mar 2014 #37
Two new DUers! Welcome. Generic Other Mar 2014 #43
Wow! Very well done! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2014 #45
Of course, another benefit of single payer is that corporations would not be involved in this stuff, Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #36
Shhh.... senseandsensibility Mar 2014 #38
I am a pro-capitalist, pro-free markets DUer, Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #39
Making profit off other people's misery Generic Other Mar 2014 #44
Thank you. I left them a message too. mountain grammy Mar 2014 #41
Weekly Email PADemD Mar 2014 #47
Dear Hobby Lobbyist otohara Mar 2014 #49

glinda

(14,807 posts)
2. Dear Holly Lobby
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 07:30 PM
Mar 2014

I have never shopped at your store because I knew what kind of business you were a long time ago. Now at least more people are learning about you.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
3. They are a brand-new presence in my area
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 07:36 PM
Mar 2014

They were putting up the bland strip mall storefront just last week.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
4. I think I may just do that (leave them a message).
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 07:36 PM
Mar 2014

I have an abundance of art supplies - enough to do almost any project without leaving home. Obviously, I have to shop to keep my home supply in stock. (Not to mention that it's kind of an addiction, I think.) But I will never buy from Hobby Lobby no matter how badly I need something. They will never get a penny from me. Even if SCOTUS rules against them.

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
6. I kind of feel the same way...
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 07:48 PM
Mar 2014

I looked at their website and it was a mess, so a few months ago I went to their store in Roseville and it was actually worse and they had no help working the floor and it was huge with a bunch of Chinese ideas of what artsy-fartsy decor pieces they think the public should like.

Lakewood, I lived in Tacoma, during the 1970s and I actually missed the rain. I got over it though.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
8. Seriously I hate that the art supply stores have become sellers of crap
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 08:15 PM
Mar 2014

I want supplies to make my own crap not pre-made crap.

calimary

(81,308 posts)
11. "Artsy-crapsy"! Sounds like a good generic slogan for Hobby Lobby.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 08:57 PM
Mar 2014

Especially their attitude towards their female employees. And I expect that same CEO sees no problem with the rest of us having to help fund his Viagra coverage.

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
10. Done.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 08:52 PM
Mar 2014

I added in the whole lack of morals thing about buying from a communist country with forced abortions while denying their own female employees needed healthcare. I don't have a problem with China, actually, but I know many conservatives do.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
18. We are the target group for this Hobby Lobby outfit
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 09:11 PM
Mar 2014

Good for you sharing your feelings. That is a double standard I hadn't considered!

mwyn8

(84 posts)
12. Went to the link
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 08:59 PM
Mar 2014

and posted my comments as follow.

I indulge in various creative endeavors. Stained glass, knitting, calligraphy, sewing, embroidery, gardening, woodburning, wire work. Unfortunately you have lost me as a customer. You think it is your right to piecemeal health care for women. It's a moral justification. However, you purchase a great many items from China, which has a forced abortion mandate. Hypocritical double standard.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
21. You would be the poster child for their dream customer!
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 09:18 PM
Mar 2014

Too bad they drove you out the door. Makes no sense at all.

 

quadrature

(2,049 posts)
14. forcing men to have maternity coverage...politically worth it?
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 08:59 PM
Mar 2014

(just my opinion)

the way to make lots of enemies

mwyn8

(84 posts)
20. Yep
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 09:14 PM
Mar 2014

I think men should be able to take time off when a child is borne. It's a good idea. If I remember correctly many nations offer paid time off for men as well as women.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
22. There are a number of countries with maternity leave for both
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 09:24 PM
Mar 2014

and studies that point to better adjusted children. It's not a bad idea at all.

TexasTowelie

(112,237 posts)
29. Ding, ding, ding--correct answer!
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 09:48 PM
Mar 2014

Men deserve to be at home to take care of their families also when a child is born. Welcome to DU!

mwyn8

(84 posts)
40. Thanks Texas Towelie
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 10:36 PM
Mar 2014

I've gone to DU for a couple years now. Just recently decided to chime in. Appreciate the welcome.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
15. There is a Hobby Lobby not too far from my house.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 09:05 PM
Mar 2014

We now travel a little farther to shop at their competition if we need anything they have.

rurallib

(62,423 posts)
19. VOTE WITH YOUR DOLLARS
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 09:14 PM
Mar 2014

it is all they understand.
what you buy at Hobby Lobby you can sure buy anyplace else.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
23. Dear Hobby Lobby:
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 09:25 PM
Mar 2014

If you are against contraception and abortion, maybe you shouldn't buy your cheap stuff from China, where they have forced abortions at gun point. Someone might say it makes you a hypocrite. You want to support life, boycott China.

A Michael's and Tuesday Morning customer.

TexasTowelie

(112,237 posts)
30. I suggest dung dropping, but a lot of those people wouldn't be able to distinguish it from their own
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 09:50 PM
Mar 2014

shiite that they are full of already.

Welcome to DU!

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
26. Done, thank you for doing the legwork. Great idea!
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 09:33 PM
Mar 2014

Those scumbags will never see a penny of my hard earned money.

wiggs

(7,814 posts)
32. you framed the benefit correctly...we are talking about BASIC HEALTH CARE and
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 10:10 PM
Mar 2014

PREVENTATIVE HEALTH CARE. Dem leaders should be discussing it that way...should be saying that basic health insurance should provide for preventative and basic health care in all aspects required, and that men and women should not be charged different rates. It should be simple. Could also say:

"The RW is against basic health care, except for the wealthy"

"The RW wants men to pay less for basic health care insurance than women"

"The RW doesn't want to require health insurance companies to meet minimum, basic thresholds of service. It's like not requiring car makers to install brake lights on new cars."

"The RW doesn't believe in preventative medicine...would rather we pay much more later to address more serious, costly conditions"

"The entire rest of the industrialized world knows that a system with for-profit and uncovered basic/preventative health care/insurance is an expensive, immoral system that creates bankruptcies, winners and losers wrt surviving disease and disaster, uneven economies, wealth inequality, and fear."

tblue37

(65,403 posts)
33. They will learn what Papa John's, Appleby's, Chik-filet (xsp?), and other such reactionary fools
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 10:21 PM
Mar 2014

have learned. It isn't wise to alienate large chunks of your customer base. Hobby Lobby's customer base is predominantly female.

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
34. Thank you for the link...
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 10:23 PM
Mar 2014

I design, make, and sell all-occasion cards..i used to spend a ton of money at Hobby Lobby for supplies..I have not since this disgusting piece of crap CEO decided woman have no right to health care...yet he advocates Viagara coverage for men..seems he has no problem with coverage for men....what an asshat this CEO is...

I went on the Hobby Lobby link and gave them an eyeful....besides pulling my money out of their store I gave them my two cents worth of words as to this disgusting action against women's health care as well

isitreal

(25 posts)
35. Dear Hobbylobby
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 10:24 PM
Mar 2014

what I sent to the link..

Dear Hobby lobby,
I am very confused with how you can justify trying to control what heath care your women workers will be covered for.
It seems to me that you are choosing to say that you want to force your religious beliefs on your employes regardless of their own beliefs. I suspect that the real reason you are attempting to do this has more to do with the bottom line of your profit as opposed to following what you say your God's desires are.

Why do I say this? You seems to think that it is ok for your suppliers to have a total disregard of these same ethics as long as they supply you with product at a low price.

Many of your goods are produced by women in China. China has very strict rules when it come to reproduction. It is not a secret that women are forced to have abortions when they already have a child.

The cultural pressure to have a male baby causes an even more heinous act of female infanticide. Studies show 10's of Millions of females are missing from the population. Information is available about how young girl babies are not only aborted but are also killed within a year of birth. One of the methods used is to put the infant in a basin of cold water. I personally know a woman that had to do this for her mothers girl babies.

Your actions of stocking your store with the amount of Chinese products that you do shows me that non of this matters to you when profits are at stake.

This leads me to believe that your decisions to oppose full coverage of reproductive health care for women is more about a miss belief of the impact to your profits than a religious principle that you hold up as the reason.

Personally I can not condone either the Chinese behavior in these matters or the path you have chosen. I believe it is important for corporations to be good citizens of the country and world. I believe in making my voice heard by voting with my wallet. As long as you deny your female workers full reproductive health care I will not be shopping at your stores.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
36. Of course, another benefit of single payer is that corporations would not be involved in this stuff,
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 10:28 PM
Mar 2014

and it would not matter what kind of religious views company owners did or did not have.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
39. I am a pro-capitalist, pro-free markets DUer,
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 10:36 PM
Mar 2014

but I recognize that there are some things that simply should not be part of a profit-pursuing free market. And the main example of this is healthcare. It is simply morally wrong that some insurance company employee's end of year bonus is dictated by how many health care claims he or she successfully denied that year.

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