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Last edited Sat Mar 29, 2014, 08:14 PM - Edit history (1)
Dear Corporate Head:
I drove by the new Lakewood, Washington store today. I spend a lot of money on art supplies, so seeing your spanking new store should have sent me swooning into the parking lot waving my debit card. But I won't be doing that. Sadly, I can't support a store who fails to provide basic health care coverage for workers and uses faith to justify such a policy.
I know that I am just one potential customer, but I am not the only one who feels this way. I will never feel welcome in your store because of your decision to treat women's reproductive health issues as within your right to control.
I am sad as I suspect I could easily have become a valued customer.
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You can leave them a message too -- if you are so inclined.
http://www.hobbylobby.com/customer_service/contact_us_form.cfm?company=1&addr=1&dept=1&mypage=1
mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)Holly Lobby. I saw your new store. I would have gone in, but I didn't need a pap smear.
glinda
(14,807 posts)I have never shopped at your store because I knew what kind of business you were a long time ago. Now at least more people are learning about you.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)They were putting up the bland strip mall storefront just last week.
glinda
(14,807 posts)Control-Z
(15,682 posts)I have an abundance of art supplies - enough to do almost any project without leaving home. Obviously, I have to shop to keep my home supply in stock. (Not to mention that it's kind of an addiction, I think.) But I will never buy from Hobby Lobby no matter how badly I need something. They will never get a penny from me. Even if SCOTUS rules against them.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)Sorry, an error has occurred and we cannot complete your request
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Fixed, I think! Thanks.
bayareaboy
(793 posts)I looked at their website and it was a mess, so a few months ago I went to their store in Roseville and it was actually worse and they had no help working the floor and it was huge with a bunch of Chinese ideas of what artsy-fartsy decor pieces they think the public should like.
Lakewood, I lived in Tacoma, during the 1970s and I actually missed the rain. I got over it though.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)I want supplies to make my own crap not pre-made crap.
3catwoman3
(24,006 posts)..."artsy-crapsy." I heard this years ago when macrame' owls were everywhere.
calimary
(81,308 posts)Especially their attitude towards their female employees. And I expect that same CEO sees no problem with the rest of us having to help fund his Viagra coverage.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Even if he smells of scented candles and fake flowers.
Treant
(1,968 posts)Is the term I use, from the fantastic Web site that used to exist and does no longer.
knitter4democracy
(14,350 posts)I added in the whole lack of morals thing about buying from a communist country with forced abortions while denying their own female employees needed healthcare. I don't have a problem with China, actually, but I know many conservatives do.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Good for you sharing your feelings. That is a double standard I hadn't considered!
mwyn8
(84 posts)and posted my comments as follow.
I indulge in various creative endeavors. Stained glass, knitting, calligraphy, sewing, embroidery, gardening, woodburning, wire work. Unfortunately you have lost me as a customer. You think it is your right to piecemeal health care for women. It's a moral justification. However, you purchase a great many items from China, which has a forced abortion mandate. Hypocritical double standard.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Too bad they drove you out the door. Makes no sense at all.
joanbarnes
(1,722 posts)quadrature
(2,049 posts)(just my opinion)
the way to make lots of enemies
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)That's the way to make a lot more poor people.
I think men should be able to take time off when a child is borne. It's a good idea. If I remember correctly many nations offer paid time off for men as well as women.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)and studies that point to better adjusted children. It's not a bad idea at all.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)This one does not.
TexasTowelie
(112,237 posts)Men deserve to be at home to take care of their families also when a child is born. Welcome to DU!
mwyn8
(84 posts)I've gone to DU for a couple years now. Just recently decided to chime in. Appreciate the welcome.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)We now travel a little farther to shop at their competition if we need anything they have.
rurallib
(62,423 posts)it is all they understand.
what you buy at Hobby Lobby you can sure buy anyplace else.
christx30
(6,241 posts)If you are against contraception and abortion, maybe you shouldn't buy your cheap stuff from China, where they have forced abortions at gun point. Someone might say it makes you a hypocrite. You want to support life, boycott China.
A Michael's and Tuesday Morning customer.
onestepforward
(3,691 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)blahdeblahblahblah
(5 posts)I love glitter bombing, we need a lot more of it.
TexasTowelie
(112,237 posts)shiite that they are full of already.
Welcome to DU!
blahdeblahblahblah
(5 posts)but I understand the impulse.
Thanks for the welcome.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)DrewFlorida
(1,096 posts)Those scumbags will never see a penny of my hard earned money.
wiggs
(7,814 posts)PREVENTATIVE HEALTH CARE. Dem leaders should be discussing it that way...should be saying that basic health insurance should provide for preventative and basic health care in all aspects required, and that men and women should not be charged different rates. It should be simple. Could also say:
"The RW is against basic health care, except for the wealthy"
"The RW wants men to pay less for basic health care insurance than women"
"The RW doesn't want to require health insurance companies to meet minimum, basic thresholds of service. It's like not requiring car makers to install brake lights on new cars."
"The RW doesn't believe in preventative medicine...would rather we pay much more later to address more serious, costly conditions"
"The entire rest of the industrialized world knows that a system with for-profit and uncovered basic/preventative health care/insurance is an expensive, immoral system that creates bankruptcies, winners and losers wrt surviving disease and disaster, uneven economies, wealth inequality, and fear."
tblue37
(65,403 posts)have learned. It isn't wise to alienate large chunks of your customer base. Hobby Lobby's customer base is predominantly female.
chillfactor
(7,576 posts)I design, make, and sell all-occasion cards..i used to spend a ton of money at Hobby Lobby for supplies..I have not since this disgusting piece of crap CEO decided woman have no right to health care...yet he advocates Viagara coverage for men..seems he has no problem with coverage for men....what an asshat this CEO is...
I went on the Hobby Lobby link and gave them an eyeful....besides pulling my money out of their store I gave them my two cents worth of words as to this disgusting action against women's health care as well
isitreal
(25 posts)what I sent to the link..
Dear Hobby lobby,
I am very confused with how you can justify trying to control what heath care your women workers will be covered for.
It seems to me that you are choosing to say that you want to force your religious beliefs on your employes regardless of their own beliefs. I suspect that the real reason you are attempting to do this has more to do with the bottom line of your profit as opposed to following what you say your God's desires are.
Why do I say this? You seems to think that it is ok for your suppliers to have a total disregard of these same ethics as long as they supply you with product at a low price.
Many of your goods are produced by women in China. China has very strict rules when it come to reproduction. It is not a secret that women are forced to have abortions when they already have a child.
The cultural pressure to have a male baby causes an even more heinous act of female infanticide. Studies show 10's of Millions of females are missing from the population. Information is available about how young girl babies are not only aborted but are also killed within a year of birth. One of the methods used is to put the infant in a basin of cold water. I personally know a woman that had to do this for her mothers girl babies.
Your actions of stocking your store with the amount of Chinese products that you do shows me that non of this matters to you when profits are at stake.
This leads me to believe that your decisions to oppose full coverage of reproductive health care for women is more about a miss belief of the impact to your profits than a religious principle that you hold up as the reason.
Personally I can not condone either the Chinese behavior in these matters or the path you have chosen. I believe it is important for corporations to be good citizens of the country and world. I believe in making my voice heard by voting with my wallet. As long as you deny your female workers full reproductive health care I will not be shopping at your stores.
You covered the things I didn't. Wonderful
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Maybe we can start our own pussy riot!!
Rhiannon12866
(205,467 posts)And welcome to DU, isitreal! It's great to have you with us!
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)and it would not matter what kind of religious views company owners did or did not have.
senseandsensibility
(17,063 posts)I don't think we're supposed to say that anymore. Or were we ever?
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)but I recognize that there are some things that simply should not be part of a profit-pursuing free market. And the main example of this is healthcare. It is simply morally wrong that some insurance company employee's end of year bonus is dictated by how many health care claims he or she successfully denied that year.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)makes capitalism seem cold and heartless.
mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)PADemD
(4,482 posts)I haven't left them a message yet, but I did unsubscribe to their weekly email.
otohara
(24,135 posts)please apply for your lobbying registration if you haven't already.
http://lobbyingdisclosure.house.gov/register.html