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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJimmy Carter: "I don't pay any attention to criminal Oliver North"
Go, President Carter! You tell 'em!
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/03/jimmy-carter-i-dont-pay-any-attention-criminal
..."ERIN BURNETT: Im curious what you think about this because I know this has to frustrate you on some level. The right links you to President Obama all the time. Former Reagan official Oliver North just recently said: President Obama showed a failure of leadership with Ukraine. Putin has handed this by what is essentially Jimmy Carter on steroids. How does that make you feel?
JIMMY CARTER: I dont pay any attention to Oliver North and Im kind of sorry to hear you quote him. He was a criminal during the Iranian Contra crisis and was convicted of betraying the best interest of our country. And of course he is famous now because he is a constant critic of the democratic party and the democrats. But I dont worry about that. As of a matter of fact, I dont think anyone could have moved more strongly against the Soviet Union when they went into Afghanistan than I did."...
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)quinnox
(20,600 posts)lastlib
(23,244 posts)Let's not be guilty of just telling half-truths about 'em.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)a good stepping stone to the White House.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)I'm really sick of being governed by republican crooks.
japple
(9,833 posts)eom
gademocrat7
(10,659 posts)Hoping Jason Carter will be our next governor. Although he will have to contend with the nest of vipers in our legislature.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)We need someone with a great brain to lead this Country.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)And the one that I take the most pride in.
Glorfindel
(9,730 posts)and twice for president of the USA. His loss to the Upper Right-Hand Square was a huge, huge tragedy for this country.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)elzenmahn
(904 posts)TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)Solly Mack
(90,771 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Why aren't our elected Democratic officials talking like he is?
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)Because they ALL are beholden to the CORPORATOCRACY! Once that link is broken, we can get back to being awesome. Until then, we head down the road to failed empires.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)failed republics.
bring back the awesome!
MADem
(135,425 posts)underpants
(182,826 posts)UTUSN
(70,706 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,666 posts)I cringe whenever I hear some RWer quoting that piece of shit. He couldn't sniff Chesty Puller's boxers.
He shamed the uniform, the country, and himself, and in typical RW clueless manner, he still gets air time.
Fuck him.
Grins
(7,218 posts)In my past life I dealt with a lot of active duty military during the Reagan and Bush "the smarter" years. In July of '97 when North was testifying before Congress - in uniform - the Marines I knew were just bat-shit crazy enraged. They just hated him. Even a West Pointer I knew hated him. Said a mere Lt. Col in the White House was no more than an "easel carrier" for the guys with real responsibility and authority.
Carter should have added that Reagan fired the bastard.
sammytko
(2,480 posts)It was breakfast. He was sitting by himself and I was surprised he wasn't surrounded by "admirers". Sad looking little man.
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/war-stories/2013/03/18/operation-iraqi-freedom-ten-years
Can't believe he hadn't practiced putting on his stupid chem suit!
2banon
(7,321 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)That's the good ol' "Liberal Media" for ya.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)adirondacker
(2,921 posts)deserve that level of respect. ie NONE.
spooky3
(34,458 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)North deserved more time in the clink, as did ALL the BAD actors of Iran Contra, INCLUDING the 41st POTUS!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,735 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)their unddies bunch up,do they not. Watch all the Nutteries hammer Mr. Carter in the next 48 hrs.
One issue that has me P.Oed over the years has been the lack of PR from the Dems when we get whacked over the head by the Thugs.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)We need more straight talk about who these people are, and Oliver North is indisputably a CONVICTED CRIMINAL and should always be introduced as such anywhere he appears. (ha ha, I know, dream on) Well at least Carter shows that the fact can still be introduced into the conversation.
lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)He couldn't be any more right on target.
Gotta love that man.
reddread
(6,896 posts)by quoting it and promoting it.
and the media should be shamed just as he did em.
spanone
(135,844 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)calimary
(81,310 posts)progressoid
(49,991 posts)We all are Mr. President.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)Oliver North was never a journalist or a politician. He was famous for breaking the law.
Then other people like Kristol who was a big cheerleader for Iraq.
These people have no credibility. Why are they considered worthy of quoting?
Erin Burnette is a journalist. Why not at least quote a journalist or a historian rather than an opportunist?
I mean when Bush was in power was the media quoting Bill Ayers and Angela Davis as an authoritative source?
Why are criminals and people who have been persistently wrong quoted or used in news shows? Would anybody in the mainstream news quote Marion Berry?
Zambero
(8,964 posts)This guy is so far removed from mainstream thinking that even many Virginia Republicans had the good sense to cross party lines in the general election. Carter's portrayal of North as a convicted criminal who had worked contrary to the country's best interests is entirely factual and very appropriate.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)Zambero
(8,964 posts)However, given demographic and political changes I doubt if North would fare as well if he was to run for office in Virginia today.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I like what he says!
red dog 1
(27,817 posts)(Quote from the Crooks & Liars link cited above)
In an interview with NBC's Andrea Mitchell on "Meet the Press" last week, Carter said that Obama was the only President who has not asked him for any advice.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024714784/
From "Jimmy Carter's Forgotten History Lesson" (Salon.com)
"President Carter started no wars, bombed no civilians, and committed no crimes against the Constitution.
He did not sell weapons to terrorists or spy on his political opponents."
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/19/jimmy_carters_forgotten_history_lesson/
One has to wonder what a Carter 2nd term might have been like.
If I'm not mistaken, Carter won the first of two debates with Reagan.
Fearing that he would also win the second debate, William Casey arranged for White House CIA official Donald Gregg to copy Carters notes for the 2nd debate, smuggle them out of the White House, and then George Will used the stolen debate notes to coach Reagan before the 2nd debate, which Reagan "won" because he knew ahead of time what Carter would say.
("Well, there you go again"
I still wonder why Casey, Gregg, Will and all others who were involved in "Debate-Gate" weren't tried for treason?
Isn't illegally copying the President's secret notes for the 2nd debate & smuggling them out of the White House a treasonous act?
And then there was "October Surprise", in which Casey & other Rethugs met secretly with top Iranian officials (who were about to release the hostages) & told them that if they waited until Reagan was elected, and THEN released the hostages, they would be rewarded by being able to buy advanced military aircraft and weapons, which the Iranians desperately needed to fight Sadaam Husein in the Iran-Iraq War. (Selling weapons to terrorists)
Meeting covertly with foreign officials and asking them to delay the release of the hostages in a "quid pro quo" to sell them advanced military weapons?
Wasn't that also a treasonous act?
Oliver North is a disgrace to his uniform; and he deserved to go to jail.
IMO, William Casey, Donald Gregg, George Will et.al. also deserved to go to jail...for treasonous acts!
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)blindfolds and cigarettes. Treason is a capital offense.
red dog 1
(27,817 posts)lastlib
(23,244 posts)TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)red dog 1
(27,817 posts)otherone
(973 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)The man who wrote the following was a DEA agent, stationed in Central America. Celerino "Cele" Castillo witnessed Ollie North's people unloading guns and loading cocaine for the trip North (no pun intended). The testimony also shows why the pukes hate the guy who has the goods on them -- John Kerry.
CONTRA-INTELLIGENCE
ON OLIVER L. NORTH
By Celerino "Cele" Castillo, 3rd
Former Federal Drug Agent and Author of:
Powderburns- Cocaine, Contras & the Drug War
EXCERPT...
Several years ago, the extreme right arm of the Christian Coalition selected to support Oliver North for U.S. Senate. Their support backfired and North became one of two Republicans who lost the elections that year. During North's campaign, I traveled to the Virginia to educate concern citizens on Oliver North. I went out to "grassroots" communities, and educated them on the criminal activities that Oliver North had been involved in during the 1980s. I went as far as challenging North to a debate. Of course, he refused.
During his failed 1994 campaign, he frequently claimed that there was no basis for any charges of his complicity in drug running, because as he keeps saying, "I'm the most investigated man on this planet." The truth of the matter is that the Iran-Contra special prosecutor, Lawrence Walsh, never investigated the drug trafficking allegations, because he did not consider it part of his mandate. The special prosecutor's original mandate from Congress was defined very narrowly, concentrating on the Iranian arms sales, the "diversion" of funds from the Iranian arms sales to the Contra operation, and on the Contra support operation as a violation of U.S. law.
During all the misdirected hoopla about Iran-Contra, the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee (known as the "Kerry committee" continued its work. Jack Blum, an investigator for Senator Kerry, testified to the committee on Feb. 11, 1987 that the Contras move drugs "not by the pound, not by the bag, but by the ton, by the cargo planeloads."
In 1987, Henry Hyde, as a member of the congressional Iran-contra committee and a defense attorney, helped steer the panel away from any serious investigation of the contra-cocaine connection. His focus was to spare President Ronald Reagan and his vice president, George Bush from possible impeachment over the Iran-contra scandal and related drug crimes implicating the Nicaraguan contra army.
CONTINUED...
http://www.drugwar.com/castillonorthmay1104.shtm
red dog 1
(27,817 posts)Plane loads of illegal arms flown down to the Contras.
Plane loads of illegal cocaine flown back to the states.
No wasted trips.
Were it not for Eugene Hasenfus, they probably would never have been caught; and, thanks to
Lawrence Walsh, the plane loads of cocaine flown back to the U.S. were never investigated
(Because they weren't part of his "mandate"
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)A real low-life traitor.
777man
(374 posts)KILL the Messenger Film Release date OCT 10, 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022291453
Kill the Messenger, Starring Jeremy Renner, is Coming in October
Source: Focus Features
March 5, 2014
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Octafish
(55,745 posts)Gothmog
(145,313 posts)Oliver North is a criminal and blowhard
Initech
(100,080 posts)sailfla
(239 posts)Rush: Druggie
North: Convicted felon
Orielly: Sexual harassment
G Liddy: felon, ex con
Gotta take a crap or I'd think of more
red dog 1
(27,817 posts)William Casey: Treasonous bastard
Donald Gregg: Treasonous bastard
George Will: Treasonous bastard
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Really, it's the only way to survive in a media owned by conservative billionaires. There is no difference between them and the paid Koch Brothers propaganda outfits, such as AFP, FW, TPP, etc. Rand Paul and Paul Ryan are at the top of the push to nationalize their goals.
Some links as to what is at stake, with many more links on the page below, with numerous websites and videos well-worth the time to search out. While people have been taught to disdain the style of government that Carter espoused, they need to know they will pay a high cost for walking away.
The vacuum left is being filled by ALEC. It's no mystery how the radical and hateful society was created, fed by big money and media presence using the hard left and hard ight to advance their goal which is to end democracy and subjugate us permanently under the boot of business. Sadly, some fail to realize that freedom from elected government means they'll bow directly to plutocrats.
What is The United States of ALEC?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/what-is-the-united-states-of-alec/2012/09/27/06dfb1ca-08b6-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_blog.html
Skittles
(153,169 posts)yes INDEED
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)johnnyreb
(915 posts)Ollie North - High Treason (2 minute clip from American Dad)
http://videosift.com/video/Ollie-North-High-Treason
Wash. state Desk Jet
(3,426 posts)Fukushima as it was coined at it's happening or at that point was compared to Chernobyl on steroids. That was said in print.
At this point I would say North's views have flown south and this is Houdinigate. North jumping from one point in time to another and than again. At this point in it however, it remains hard to say who actually shortend at this or that point in time to at that point or this point in it. From Watergate to Houdinigate,what a leap in time ! It's all one big gated commuinty to Oli, what a rush !.
Wolf Frankula
(3,601 posts)Now deceased, called Oliver North a Traitor and said he deserved to have been hanged.
Wolf
JHB
(37,160 posts)...thanks to two politically active federal judges (Lawrence Silbeman and David Sentelle) who magically changed their tune about standards of evidence when they were overssung Kenneth Starr's investigation of Bill Clinton.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)his country and shamed himself the day he testified before congress, wearing the uniform of the United States like a prop, raised his claw, swore to tell the whole truth, and proceeded to flick his forked tongue and lie through the gap in his teeth. The Marines "retired" him for it. The government convicted him of it, and still the son of a bitch slithered away scot-free to crawl up on his right wing soap box, where he's made a handsome living suckering the zombie vote ever sense.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)I remember when the hearings were underway in the late 1980s and North wore a uniform to testify that he never wore while working in the White House.
I was listening to morning talk radio during this time when Sen. Inouye was questioning him. The talk-show hosts were discussing the hearings when some rube phoned in and asked why a "Jap" was questioning a US Marine.
I just don't understand this kind of mentality...
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)as the zombie called him, won the Medal of Honor in WWII, and lost most of an arm doing it while serving in the most highly decorated unit in the history of the United States. After the war, that "Jap" served in the US Senate for 40 years. Daniel Inouye served his country above and beyond the call of duty for his entire life. Zombie and Ollie should have done half as much.
IkeRepublican
(406 posts)That Reagan pillow-biter can go pound dirt. If any one of us pulled anything like Lt. North's outright treasonous behavior, we'd be pushing up daisies over 20 years ago.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)such bullshit right back at them -- calling them out on their idiotic lines of questioning, false premises, and blatant stupidity. Hurray for Jimmy Carter!
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Republicans talk like big machos about fighting Russia. But if they were in the White House and declared war on Russia, they would just make one huge mess. War with Russia would not be as easy to win as war in Iraq, and that proved to be way over their heads.
People who don't like taxes should not talk about being tough and going to war. Wars require nations to raise taxes -- a lot.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Packerowner740
(676 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)DiverDave
(4,886 posts)For saying what I have since the traitor was convicted.
Yes, you trolling r's he is a traitor.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Rider3
(919 posts)He didn't deserve the nastiness he experienced during his time as President.
90-percent
(6,829 posts)I recall a few years ago she was on MSNBC right before slobbering Chris Mathews. They were doing the anchor-to-anchor chit chat between shows and it seemed like Chris never met her before. He slobbered and stammered and said, in so many words; "Hot damn , beyotch! You are one hot piece of ass!"
Not his very words, of course. She is one of the most attractive agenda driven corporate propagandists on cable today. And I think she shills excessively for Wall Street and Big Banks because that's what her husband does for a living?
-90% Jimmy
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Because he's a constant critic of democrats and the democratic party.
"Liberal media"--yeh, right.