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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 06:57 AM Mar 2014

How Deficit Hawks Are Trying to Pit Millennials Against Seniors to Attack Social Security, Medicare

http://www.alternet.org/economy/how-deficit-hawks-are-trying-pit-millennials-against-seniors-attack-social-security-and



Generational grievances pitting struggling young millennials against supposedly better-off seniors is creeping back into American politics, fanned by a new wave of deficit hawks who want to undermine public confidence in Social Security and Medicare—as the first step in cutting the social insurance programs.

In a string of recent examples— rants from MSNBC’s wealthy young commentator, a notorious elderly-attacking House candidate, think tanks promoted on NPR—generational warfare cheerleaders are proclaiming that America is heading toward an epic and immoral conflict as better-off seniors are robbing millennials of shrinking federal dollars because retirement programs cost too much. That’s simply false, as Social Security is solvent through 2033, and spending on all mandatory programs as a percentage of GDP is close to where it’s been since 1975, at 21 percent.

This line of attack isn’t in a political vacuum. It comes as some Democrats are reframing the debate on Social Security and campaigning for increased benefits. Nor is it a new argument, as a right-wing club of libertarians, Wall Street bankers and deficit hawks have tried for decades to undermine and privatize the program. Amazingly, the generational warmongers are not just irking progressives who see shifting political winds; they're scaring at least one Republican congressman who called out the generational warfare ruse and game plan in a fundraising letter.

Pennsylvania Republican Tom Marino is a former U.S. Attorney and conservative two-term incumbent. His re-election website boasts he is anti-Obamacare, pro-gun, pro-fracking and anti-gay marriage. Yet, the top news item on his website is a letter from Vivian Mae Marino, “to let all of you know that my son, Tom Marino, will save Medicare and strengthen Social Security.”
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How Deficit Hawks Are Trying to Pit Millennials Against Seniors to Attack Social Security, Medicare (Original Post) xchrom Mar 2014 OP
Marino will save Medicare and SS House of Roberts Mar 2014 #1
Yep. That was my first thought too when I saw that line....... socialist_n_TN Mar 2014 #14
Driving wedges is what they think politics is all about, it's their big weakness. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #2
I'd say wedges are the means. BadgerKid Mar 2014 #3
And that's why you don't vote for people who are greedy, regardless. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #4
K&R.... daleanime Mar 2014 #5
The group who will be needing social security and medicare most better be rethinking Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #6
Actually, they are trying to pit millennials against themselves. dawg Mar 2014 #7
As a Millennial the problem should be solved not by cutting SS/medicare but by MillennialDem Mar 2014 #8
As a baby boomer, I think you are completely on target with what needs to be done nt karynnj Mar 2014 #11
As a boomer (1947) benefiting from SS/Medicare, I thank you mountain grammy Mar 2014 #12
it's working with some of them Locrian Mar 2014 #9
Divide and conquer. DesertDiamond Mar 2014 #10
Dear Mrs. Marino: your son will throw us all to the wolves. mountain grammy Mar 2014 #13
And the truth is that Millennials are only paying for their own Social Security fasttense Mar 2014 #15
Wait -- you mean it ISN'T the fault of the selfish Boomers? Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #17
So true, so true. n/t fasttense Mar 2014 #18
K&R woo me with science Mar 2014 #16
kick woo me with science Mar 2014 #19

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
14. Yep. That was my first thought too when I saw that line.......
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 10:18 AM
Mar 2014

It's the classic, "We had to burn the village to save it!" attitude.

BadgerKid

(4,553 posts)
3. I'd say wedges are the means.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 08:18 AM
Mar 2014

Greed for power and money are the drivers. Campaign private donations, kickbacks, creating middlemen (which is ironically job creation), etc.


Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. The group who will be needing social security and medicare most better be rethinking
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 08:31 AM
Mar 2014

Their tactics. The success rate in which Republicans have in busting unions has left less than desirable wages and no pensions. If the young is very used to making lots of money and not saving most if it is not going to be happy seriously curtailing their living status to
$0 to survive. Yes when you are young money may come easy but when the working days are over it is going to be really hard on many. One reason why some seniors has put away money was they lived through the Depression, they learned to be frugal.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
7. Actually, they are trying to pit millennials against themselves.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 08:32 AM
Mar 2014

Current seniors are already getting *their* benefits. Gen X'er and Millennials are the ones that conservatives want to shaft.

 

MillennialDem

(2,367 posts)
8. As a Millennial the problem should be solved not by cutting SS/medicare but by
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 08:33 AM
Mar 2014

eliminating the cap and also applying SS/medicare to capital gains/carried interest.

mountain grammy

(26,623 posts)
12. As a boomer (1947) benefiting from SS/Medicare, I thank you
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 09:56 AM
Mar 2014

for advocating for the simple solution to the problem. You're not fooled, make sure you're friends aren't either.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
9. it's working with some of them
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 09:13 AM
Mar 2014

Usually the ones already with a 'libertarian' bent.

Their strategy is simple: teach them to "kiss up and kick down". Of course, eventually they get kicked to the ground as well...

mountain grammy

(26,623 posts)
13. Dear Mrs. Marino: your son will throw us all to the wolves.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 09:58 AM
Mar 2014

Well, maybe not you, so it's all good, right? Wake up, old lady.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
15. And the truth is that Millennials are only paying for their own Social Security
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 10:49 AM
Mar 2014

When the bad actor Raygun was president he doubled everyone's (except the very wealthy) Social Security payments. Half of the Boomers payments were taken to pay for their parent's retirement. And the other half was put aside in the Social Security Trust Fund to pay for the Boomer's retirement. The trust fund is suppose to run dry as the payments are made to the Boomer's retirement. We Boomers were the 1st generation to pay both for our parent's retirement and our own. The money put into Social Security now by everyone after the Boomers, is going to pay for only their own retirement.

So what is there to get all upset about? We Boomers stepped up and paid double for us and our parents leaving all other generation the need to only pay for their own.

By the way, if the RepubliCONS got their way and gave the Social Security Trust Fund to Wall Street bankers like Pete Peterson, do you really believe the kids of those suffering Boomers are going to let their parents die in abject misery? I doubt it. So those children will be left with the full responsibility of taking care of their elderly parents.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
17. Wait -- you mean it ISN'T the fault of the selfish Boomers?
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 11:47 AM
Mar 2014


I am amazed at how often on DU I see the Boomers blamed for everything
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