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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 05:03 PM Mar 2012

Romney: Yes, I’ll eliminate whole departments, but I won’t tell you which ones

Romney: Yes, I’ll eliminate whole departments, but I won’t tell you which ones

By Greg Sargent

Jonathan Chait points us to a remarkable Mitt Romney interview with the Weekly Standard, in which Romney confirms that he intends to eliminate whole departments of the federal government. But he’s reluctant to tell us which ones, because so doing could be politically damaging:

Romney, ever cautious, is reluctant to get specific about the programs he would like to kill. He did this in his bid for the Senate 18 years ago and remembers the political ramifications.

“One of the things I found in a short campaign against Ted Kennedy was that when I said, for instance, that I wanted to eliminate the Department of Education, that was used to suggest I don’t care about education,” Romney recalled. “So I think it’s important for me to point out that I anticipate that there will be departments and agencies that will either be eliminated or combined with other agencies. So for instance, I anticipate that housing vouchers will be turned over to the states rather than be administered at the federal level, and so at this point I think of the programs to be eliminated or to be returned to the states, and we’ll see what consolidation opportunities exist as a result of those program eliminations.

“So will there be some that get eliminated or combined? The answer is yes, but I’m not going to give you a list right now.”

Chait sees this as a moment of unintentional political candor, in which Romney is admitting that detailing specific plans for cutting government risks being unpopular. Americans always say they hate government in the abstract, but their anti-government zeal suddenly goes wobbly when specific progams are on the chopping block. So Romney is avoiding detailing specifics that could damage him in the general election.

That’s bad enough. But there’s still another layer to the rhetorical contortions on display here. Romney isn’t just refusing to detail specifics because he’s worried about hurting himself in the fall. He’s also trying to sell conservatives on the idea that he shouldn’t have to detail all the ways he’ll downsize government, because it will weaken him against Obama. Romney’s intended audience here is conservatives who want reassurances that he genuinely intends to pursue a major downsizing of government. He’s basically asking them to let him keep things vague (wink, wink) so Dems can’t use his promises against him.

Indeed, the writer of the Weekly Standard piece explains that his answer is another reason conservatives may be suspicious of him. What this really amounts to is a moment of unintentional candor wrapped up in more dissembling. Perhaps this is another promise to conservatives that can simply be Etch-A-Sketched away when the time comes.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/romney-yes-ill-eliminate-whole-departments-but-i-wont-tell-you-which-ones/2012/03/26/gIQAAbIdcS_blog.html

Romney admits that, outside of the RW, Americans don't want cuts to government programs.

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Romney: Yes, I’ll eliminate whole departments, but I won’t tell you which ones (Original Post) ProSense Mar 2012 OP
Are the GOP candidates having a stupid contest with each other?? Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #1
+1 Auggie Mar 2012 #4
Yes. n/t ProSense Mar 2012 #7
Hell, Ma'am, At Least Perry Honestly Could Not Remember.... The Magistrate Mar 2012 #2
Harry Truman made an observation about Tricky Dick Nixon hifiguy Mar 2012 #3
That, Sir, Is How The Thing Is Done! The Magistrate Mar 2012 #5
That was my thought. efhmc Mar 2012 #12
Go ahead. Eliminate the Dept. of Ed. That won't eliminate FAPE however--lawsuits galore. MichiganVote Mar 2012 #6
And today, Etch-A-Sketch criticized Obama for not wanting to give details on missile defense until aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2012 #8
And this is different from ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2012 #9
Well, ProSense Mar 2012 #10
That's exactly my point ... Thanks. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2012 #16
Hey, Romney, I'm going to eliminate a political party this election season. mwooldri Mar 2012 #11
Romney Pull Out Nixon Model DallasNE Mar 2012 #13
Scaredy Cat! politicasista Mar 2012 #14
I see he's channeling rick, cement head, perry. Javaman Mar 2012 #15

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
1. Are the GOP candidates having a stupid contest with each other??
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 05:09 PM
Mar 2012

Because if they are, it is going to be hard to select a winner.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
2. Hell, Ma'am, At Least Perry Honestly Could Not Remember....
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 05:14 PM
Mar 2012

This man lies compulsively; he lies when the truth would serve.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
3. Harry Truman made an observation about Tricky Dick Nixon
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 05:17 PM
Mar 2012

that applies equally well to Rmoney:

"Richard Nixon is a no good, lying bastard. He can lie out of both sides of his mouth at the same time, and if he ever caught himself telling the truth, he'd lie just to keep his hand in. ” ― Harry S. Truman

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
6. Go ahead. Eliminate the Dept. of Ed. That won't eliminate FAPE however--lawsuits galore.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 05:27 PM
Mar 2012

FAPE=Free and Appropriate Education

Not to mention IDEA and a whole roster of civil rights issues associated with the Dept. of Ed. Gonna be a busy Supreme Court season....

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
8. And today, Etch-A-Sketch criticized Obama for not wanting to give details on missile defense until
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 06:39 PM
Mar 2012

after the election. Umpteen debates and Etch-A-Sketch has yet to give any details on how he would govern as President and yet has the temerity to criticize Obama. Typically Republican isn't it?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
9. And this is different from ...
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 06:49 PM
Mar 2012

President Obama's "hot mike" gaffe that has the right ... including Romney all aghast, how?

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
10. Well,
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 07:30 PM
Mar 2012

"And this is different from ...President Obama's 'hot mike' gaffe that has the right ... including Romney all aghast, how?"

...here are a few ways:

1) Obama isn't hiding his entire agenda.

2) The President knows what he's talking about: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002475056

3) Romney doesn't know what he's talking about: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002479337

4) Romney is tone deaf: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002211850

5) Etch-A-Sketch: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002452416


Should I continue?

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
11. Hey, Romney, I'm going to eliminate a political party this election season.
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:29 PM
Mar 2012

But I am not going to tell you which one either.


DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
13. Romney Pull Out Nixon Model
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 11:54 PM
Mar 2012

Nixon called it revenue sharing and Romney calls it vouchers. Not a dimes worth of difference between the two. So, what happened to Nixon's revenue sharing, you ask. Well, the States used the money how they wanted rather than what it was earmarked for. Same thing would happen with these vouchers Romney wants to send out. It has no chance of working. Secondly, since there is no transparency we are being asked to buy a pig in a poke. No thanks!!!!

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