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I just heard some talking head on TV say that. Is that true?
Does that include those that wish it were a 'single payer' plan and it just didn't go far enough in their eyes? My guess is that those people are for the ACA but just wish it were stronger. Are the Repugs including these people and that is why they have come up with the meme that "a majority of Americans disagree with ACA"? If so - that is really dishonest.
If a majority of Americans disagree with ACA - why haven't the Obama Administration and the Dems done a better job at communicating and educating the American People of the benefits to them?
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)With no public option to control the costs and offer real competition, I object to being forced to buy.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)that's republican spin.
aptal
(304 posts)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act
That is what you call "forced."
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Up to $695 ($2,085 per family) in 2016 or 2.5% of your adjusted gross income, whichever is greater.
Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)I have a choice. I can spend $5,880.00 I don't have on insurance, or be fined $700.00 I still don't have, and won't have coverage either.
global1
(25,251 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I suspect it includes a group that thought it was too little, as well as those that think it went too far. There is also alot of dislike over the mandate. It's really too bad they left that in because it is the GOP's strongest talking point.
cindyperry2010
(846 posts)that as more of it kicks in and people understand what they are getting the more they like it
Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)but does some bad, too. The mandate is bad. Lack of effective price controls is worse. Lack of real competition is the worst of them all.
But it's something to build on. I'm just worried that if it stands too many people are going to use that as an excuse not to solve the problems with the bill.
mike_c
(36,281 posts)I am STRONGLY opposed to that provision, but would like to see most of the rest of the act preserved, and strengthened. If that is damaging to insurance companies, that's a bonus in my view and it hastens the day when single payer will replace their sorry asses. Until then, ripping the profit out of their greedy hands will do just fine.
global1
(25,251 posts)mike_c
(36,281 posts)Presently, I have a good union job and have decent, but not spectacular health insurance through my employer (PersChoice through Anthem BC in California, for those who know it, a bottom-ish tier plan for state employees in areas with few insurance choices). Prior to this, I was uninsured for about fifteen years, and before that-- now we're talking 30 years ago-- the whole health care/insurance relationship was different, but of course I was young and healthy.
One of the reasons I object to the individual mandate-- aside from my general objection about government telling me that I MUST buy the product of an industry that is the cause of the health care crisis-- I mean, that is just absurd-- but another reason is that I fear that the individual mandate will begin a period of declining employer provided health insurance, as employers find they can pass the burden off to their employees because the government now requires them to purchase insurance themselves otherwise. That takes us FURTHER away from single payer health care rather than closer to it, IMO.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)...it does.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002473375
Still, that doesn't prevent people from pushing the RW numbers.
louis-t
(23,295 posts)are against what they are TOLD is in the bill. Repugs are really good salespeople.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)just right .........................................25%
Not enough X ................................25%
Too much X ....................................25%
Don't know X about X ...............25%
our media reports it as 75 % AGAINST "just right"
just1voice
(1,362 posts)That's why the so-called benefits of a for-profit health system aren't being communicated -- NOBODY WANTS THEM.