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nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 07:25 PM Mar 2014

Charlene Dill was murdered by Rick Scott, FL republicans RE Medicaid funding ("donut hole" death)

Last edited Mon Mar 24, 2014, 08:01 PM - Edit history (1)

This was written by a friend of mine (news of the death came this weekend). Posted with permission.

I was aware of Charlene's predicament with not being able to get meds or see a doc with her heart condition -- Kathleen (the writer) did a fundraiser to get her meds a while back. Now she's doing a GoFundMe for her funeral.

This is so horrific, and predictable. And preventable. And the result of Republicans in their insane crusade against Obama using the people of Florida as sacrificial lambs. And I just can't even begin to imagine all the other millions of people in Florida who aren't covered, and how many will also die or suffer permanent disability or lose their homes… the list just goes on and on.





Kathleen Voss Woolrich: A Loss Of Life, Caused By Partisan Politics – The Denial Of Obamacare

An unedited story told by a fellow Floridian. The consequences of Florida’s modern day partisan politics. A call to vote for change.

March 24, 2014

By: Kathleen Voss Woolrich

“Born in Pennsylvania to a warm family, Charlene moved to Florida when she was 18 years old. She worked at fast food joints and Disney, cleaned houses and babysat, but through the years found herself as a single mother with 3 kids. She had heart issues that needed to be managed. Her teeth needed to be fixed and constantly had infections, but Charlene never complained. She made $11,000 dollars last year – babysitting other peoples’ children and cleaning other peoples’ houses. She proudly paid her property taxes in February and took care of her little trailer, which she owned and took all three kids to school.

But, Charlene had no health insurance. Charlene was unable to get Obamacare, because she made too little to get the subsidies to purchase health insurance. She had no dental insurance. Her teeth hurt her at night and had so many cavities, but could not find a way to get the decay in her teeth fixed. She was denied medicaid and when she went to get Obamcare she was told she could not get subsidies.

So she went to the emergency room 2012. She had heart issues and was told to get on medicine and be monitored. But, had no health insurance to do so. 2012 Obama won and we all were so sure… NOW Charlene would have health insurance. But the Republican Party of Florida and Rick Scott turned down medicaid expansion. In December Charlene went to the emergency room with abcesses in her legs. Her teeth hurt her constantly. Charlene never complained. She took her two older kids to school each day and reported for work at her various jobs. Recently she began selling vaccuum cleaners in addition to the babysitting and house cleaning. She took antibiotics. She got her healthcare at Florida hospital emergency rooms.

On March 21st, she was supposed to come see me – on my first day off, in a while. She was excited about seeing my daughter who she had raised since she was 3. The kids were all going to play together. She had only 2 short appointments in Osceola County, to show the vaccum to customers. At about 4 pm, that afternoon, I got a message from her niece that she had died at the customers house. They rushed her to Poinciana Medical Center and worked on her. They could not bring my best friend back. She died. She was 32.



You see, the main argument Republicans use is that its some lazy person who needs medicaid expansion. That, those of us living without healthcare or dental care are lazy. But my friend, a single beautiful mother, worked 3 jobs. She paid taxes. She paid her house taxes. And now she’s dead.

Please think of Charlene when you decide who you are going to vote for in August and December. Please vote democrat. Please vote for people who want people like Charlene and me to have healthcare – to have a fighting chance.

I am burying my best friend soon, because of Rick Scott and Will Weatherford. I am buring my best friend, because of the policies of the Republican Party. I am burying my best friend, because had medicaid expansion passed her needs would have been met. She is one of the 7 people who will die each day, because the Florida House of Represenatives Republicans and Tea Party decided that we are not worth living. We are not worth healthcare. We were not worth medicaid expansion.




Please vote for Charlene.

Please help get the Republicans out and expand medicaid. I’ll never have her back. I’ll never see my friend again. I’ll never have another day with her, because of the Republican House of Representatives. Please, for Charlene and for me, register to vote and promise to vote against Rick Scott and any Florida Republican who runs. They need to know we know. We know who they hurt and we see what they are doing to the poor of Florida.”

– Charlene Dill 1981 to 2014

if you want to help the family:
http://www.gofundme.com/17bf60

Here's some information and an info graphic on the Medicaid Gap:

http://kff.org/health-reform/issue-brief/the-coverage-gap-uninsured-poor-adults-in-states-that-do-not-expand-medicaid/

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Charlene Dill was murdered by Rick Scott, FL republicans RE Medicaid funding ("donut hole" death) (Original Post) nashville_brook Mar 2014 OP
PRick Scott killed and made her kids orphans. Ilsa Mar 2014 #1
it's like Rick Scott's refusal to accept money for high speed rail, only this time with dead people nashville_brook Mar 2014 #4
Thom Hartman is talking about her now! Rockyj Mar 2014 #90
OMG!!!! nashville_brook Mar 2014 #94
my life without her kathleenvosswoolrich Feb 2015 #112
Yes, you do matter, kathleenvosswoolrich. NYC_SKP Feb 2015 #113
This is the only way to deal with these ReTHUG malaise Mar 2014 #2
Republicans are essentially murdering Americans by refusing to expand Medicaid in so many states Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #3
truly, there's nothing more important than getting Dems out in off-years nashville_brook Mar 2014 #46
Did Governor Skeletor get a copy of this? Brigid Mar 2014 #5
this picture should follow him everywhere he goes - project it on the side of the capitol building nashville_brook Mar 2014 #6
In a civilized country . . . Brigid Mar 2014 #7
i actually sat on this for a day before posting b/c i just couldn't nashville_brook Mar 2014 #24
Good post, good show of conscience packman Mar 2014 #88
thank you :) nashville_brook Mar 2014 #99
Why is this not the first thing every capitol "D" Democrat running in 2014 opens with? genwah Mar 2014 #104
She is so beautiful Rockyj Mar 2014 #87
Goddamnit. And Scott thinks he's earned re-election? DirkGently Mar 2014 #8
Crist is hammering him in the polls this week, and ACA/Medicaid is the big discussion. nashville_brook Mar 2014 #10
Did Crist get a copy of this? Brigid Mar 2014 #15
i'm trying to get it to his people right now. nashville_brook Mar 2014 #22
his money is just starting to kick in - saw two ads in the past day DrDan Mar 2014 #50
This breaks my heart. Control-Z Mar 2014 #9
Rick Scott & the FL GOP murdered Charlene Dill. DirkGently Mar 2014 #11
they created this donut hole -- it was done by design to "punish" obama nashville_brook Mar 2014 #48
Republicans' aim is to prevent government from helping people ... DirkGently Mar 2014 #53
she died over the weekend and we're all just starting to digest it. nashville_brook Mar 2014 #12
So sad maryellen99 Mar 2014 #36
yes, thank you -- victim is exactly the right word. nashville_brook Mar 2014 #45
Tweet & E-Mail Ed Show & Maddow Rockyj Mar 2014 #91
Murderer will probably be re-elected. ErikJ Mar 2014 #13
right now Crist's numbers are in the "wins comfortably" zone nashville_brook Mar 2014 #23
Scott is touring the state, promising everything DirkGently Mar 2014 #56
i've seen Crist respond to this, and he really nails it nashville_brook Mar 2014 #72
I will take a busload of Charlie Crists if they rid us of Rick Scott. DirkGently Mar 2014 #74
WTF?! ErikJ Mar 2014 #33
amen. nashville_brook Mar 2014 #40
There but for the grace of God, go I............ mrmpa Mar 2014 #14
And there's no reason for it. DirkGently Mar 2014 #17
and it's our money. FL give more in federal taxes than smaller states nashville_brook Mar 2014 #25
One payer system......medicare for everyone....... mrmpa Mar 2014 #43
AMEN, the hobby lobby thing might turn out to be the wedge there nashville_brook Mar 2014 #47
All of this only proves that MORE. DirkGently Mar 2014 #93
This should go to every voter here in FL mcar Mar 2014 #16
agreed, and very good points on healthcare republican reps provide for themselves at OUR expense nashville_brook Mar 2014 #19
She was within striking distance mcar Mar 2014 #26
devastating direct mail hit on every anti-medicaid repub up for reelection. nashville_brook Mar 2014 #29
Whoever runs against the Space Alien HockeyMom Mar 2014 #54
precisely -- i hope the right people are listening. nashville_brook Mar 2014 #100
Heartbreaking. I lost my best friend 2 years ago. mountain grammy Mar 2014 #18
Please, can you provide an update on tea and oranges Mar 2014 #20
i will let you know as soon as i know -- there's aunts nashville_brook Mar 2014 #21
Besides getting a copy of this to spartan61 Mar 2014 #27
that is a wonderful idea! and Thom Hartmann, and Rachel! and Chris. nashville_brook Mar 2014 #28
Didn't Rick Scott want to take the Medicaid money, but the legislature stopped him? bluestateguy Mar 2014 #30
no, that's not what happened ,he said yes to it cause he knew their legislature would say no. leftyohiolib Mar 2014 #34
it's even worse than that -- the fact that anyone REMEMBERS that he supported the expansion nashville_brook Mar 2014 #51
Yeah. Nice sleight of hand there, Rick. "Well, I TRIED DirkGently Mar 2014 #58
the FL senate unanimously passed the legislation. then, nashville_brook Mar 2014 #41
Republicans are always okay with innocent people dying as long as the guilty get punished. Kablooie Mar 2014 #31
Republicans on FB have left messages like "I have no sympathy for stupid people" nashville_brook Mar 2014 #49
jeez,! I hope FB will remove such nastiness. Ilsa Mar 2014 #52
I hope they don't. jeff47 Mar 2014 #60
there's such nonsense that comes from repubs on healthcare -- they think nashville_brook Mar 2014 #67
The zero-sum fallacy. DirkGently Mar 2014 #102
such strong statements from anonymous cowards leftyohiolib Mar 2014 #57
most were actually people on Facebook who are known in the community nashville_brook Mar 2014 #69
Human suffering seems to be their index of success. n/t DirkGently Mar 2014 #61
ain't that the truth! nashville_brook Mar 2014 #66
to those who say dems pols need to "motivate" my ass to get me to vote- is this enough? leftyohiolib Mar 2014 #32
since this is on Rick Scott and the radical republicans in the house, i'm hoping this will stick nashville_brook Mar 2014 #39
So sorry to hear this, nb.. mahalo for Cha Mar 2014 #35
i hope we can make a difference nashville_brook Mar 2014 #37
I can imagine.. :( Cha Mar 2014 #38
So sorry for Charlene's needless death. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #42
morning kick nashville_brook Mar 2014 #44
Wow, this is really terrible to hear. giftedgirl77 Mar 2014 #55
conservatives are so concerned about fetuses, would be nice if that concern extended to families nashville_brook Mar 2014 #73
He was too busy profiting from welfare drug-testing Blue Owl Mar 2014 #59
Does he still own a piece of HCA? Along with Bill Frist? read this. Fuddnik Mar 2014 #62
Hope some Democrat is making a commercial of this. People of Florida simply sinkingfeeling Mar 2014 #63
me too! we'll see. nashville_brook Mar 2014 #76
is this posted anywhere I can repost to FB? BanzaiBonnie Mar 2014 #64
please repost widely -- and share knowing that the writer nashville_brook Mar 2014 #65
Daily Kos has it. DirkGently Mar 2014 #68
freaking AWESOME! nashville_brook Mar 2014 #70
**UPDATE** the fundraiser is almost to the goal nashville_brook Mar 2014 #71
Scott is a soulless opportunistic weasel. lpbk2713 Mar 2014 #75
he's definitely rocking a reptilian look with the tiny bald head and lack of eyebrows. nashville_brook Mar 2014 #77
It's the soulless gleam in the eye. DirkGently Mar 2014 #78
little shoes. nashville_brook Mar 2014 #79
Kids: Do NOT help this man "find his kitty." DirkGently Mar 2014 #89
K& R Tsiyu Mar 2014 #80
Thom Hartmann just did a segment on her on his show today. Cleita Mar 2014 #81
Wow. Maybe now people will pay more attention DirkGently Mar 2014 #82
He also just mentioned this thread and told people Cleita Mar 2014 #84
I understand he may have donated himself as well. DirkGently Mar 2014 #85
He said he did and encouraged others to do so. n/t Cleita Mar 2014 #86
omg - that is SO amazing! i knew he reads DU :) nashville_brook Mar 2014 #95
He posts videos from his show in the video forum. Cleita Mar 2014 #96
I will totally be on the lookout for those!! thank you so much for flagging this! nashville_brook Mar 2014 #98
Can you stream? Cleita Mar 2014 #101
Thom also blogged about her Rockyj Mar 2014 #107
Time to expand the subsidies. GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #83
here's a map of states that have expanded or are considering expanding Medicaid nashville_brook Mar 2014 #97
I'm in one of those states. GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #103
This is what RepubliCONS do . The're killers , Gangsters , liers ,and destroyers of all that's good geretogo Mar 2014 #92
New Here, Some Thoughts Baconeater Mar 2014 #105
Your last sentence says the truth. In Canada she would have gotten the Cleita Mar 2014 #108
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #106
Republican death panels Pharaoh Jul 2014 #109
Republican Death Panels Pharaoh Jul 2014 #110
Amen. nashville_brook Jul 2014 #111

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
1. PRick Scott killed and made her kids orphans.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 07:33 PM
Mar 2014

Shame on him. Shame on the USA for allowing a working citizen to die without help.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
4. it's like Rick Scott's refusal to accept money for high speed rail, only this time with dead people
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 07:42 PM
Mar 2014

he's got to go.

112. my life without her
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 05:16 PM
Feb 2015

On the cardiac observation floor.
I had two seizures today and I have never had a seizure in my life
I dont have regular health insurance because medicaid did not expand in the state of florida so even if they find out why I have no way to get a consult outside of the hospital. Untreated heart failure and lupus wreaked havoc all over my body and I am now having seizures. I had one the middle of an actual examination
Think it did not matter that the republican house got relelected and is denying almost a million people in Florida healthcare? It mattered to me. It mattered to my kids
I matter

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
113. Yes, you do matter, kathleenvosswoolrich.
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 08:47 PM
Feb 2015

I hope your seizures end and that you're provided with appropriate care.

Welcome to DU.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
3. Republicans are essentially murdering Americans by refusing to expand Medicaid in so many states
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 07:37 PM
Mar 2014

This is why voting is no joke, people.

Please GOTV and get those Republicans out of office.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
46. truly, there's nothing more important than getting Dems out in off-years
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:23 AM
Mar 2014

if there's ONE place we should be putting resources, it's there.

it would be so amazing to have the money to send vote-by-mail requests to every single dem in the state.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
24. i actually sat on this for a day before posting b/c i just couldn't
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 09:30 PM
Mar 2014

i know…civilized. we have a ways to go.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
88. Good post, good show of conscience
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:16 PM
Mar 2014

I hate that shit Scott with every breath a suffering Floridian takes. What a corrupt soul, if he has one. Sitting on his ill-gotten fortune like a diseased toad croaking out his tea-party crap.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
99. thank you :)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:43 PM
Mar 2014

it's really a coterie of demons in the state house right. we HAVE to get them out.

November is going to more of an exorcism than an election the way I see it

genwah

(574 posts)
104. Why is this not the first thing every capitol "D" Democrat running in 2014 opens with?
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:25 PM
Mar 2014

Goddammit, people! Everyone running in Florida should open with, "Hey, we're sending money to Washington, and our idiot governor is keeping a lot of it from coming back. People are dying here, who's lives can be saved. Here's a picture of just one..."

Rockyj

(538 posts)
87. She is so beautiful
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:11 PM
Mar 2014

And did not deserve to die because of a heartless Governor & sociopathic GOP.
I swear they are not human...
My prayers to her children, family and friends.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
8. Goddamnit. And Scott thinks he's earned re-election?
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 07:52 PM
Mar 2014

His political career and those of every other filthy Republican governor and legislator murdering people to prop up their crazy- eyed hatred for government, healthcare, and Barack Obama should be beaten instantly to death for what they've done.

Their cartoon rhetoric KILLS PEOPLE.

Enough all fucking ready.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
10. Crist is hammering him in the polls this week, and ACA/Medicaid is the big discussion.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 07:58 PM
Mar 2014

Wow -- imagine if he picked up on Charlene's story. This is so tragic and so powerful. It MUST be talked about.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
22. i'm trying to get it to his people right now.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 09:23 PM
Mar 2014

everyone is emailing everyone, sharing on Facebook and making calls.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
9. This breaks my heart.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 07:56 PM
Mar 2014

Where is the television ad about Charlene's Obamacare horror story? These are the real horror stories. People denied healthcare. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. This poor woman lived and died in a horribly unfair and painful hell.

This story needs to go to the president, and to each and every senator, representative, and governor of each and every state. Is anyone doing this?

Those poor dear children.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
11. Rick Scott & the FL GOP murdered Charlene Dill.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 08:03 PM
Mar 2014

Those words should follow these grotesque creeps and their depraved anti-ACA tantrums everywhere.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
48. they created this donut hole -- it was done by design to "punish" obama
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:27 AM
Mar 2014

they should have to live with the images of all the people who've died b/c of it.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
53. Republicans' aim is to prevent government from helping people ...
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:21 AM
Mar 2014

... in order to prove that government can't help people.

It's truly demented twist of logic, and one they are carrying to increasing extremes. What government can do, and what they talk about much less, is funnel wealth upward from taxpayers to, say, a private clinic stealing Medicare funds.

Worked for Rick Scott. He is rich man who has profited most from that taxpayer-to-private interest funnel.

Now he's out to apply his model of government of, by, and for private pecuniary interests to the entire state, no matter what the cost to the people.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
12. she died over the weekend and we're all just starting to digest it.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 08:03 PM
Mar 2014

i'm hoping the story gets picked up. i'm hoping people pay attention. she's like so many people i know in FL cobbling a life together of part-time work, kids and barely getting by.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
23. right now Crist's numbers are in the "wins comfortably" zone
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 09:27 PM
Mar 2014

lots can change btwn now and then, but it's a good sign. shows that people are warming to his message, and the lack of medicaid funding has been a feature of his argument for election. people get it. i hope they vote.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
56. Scott is touring the state, promising everything
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 10:06 AM
Mar 2014

... to everyone. Money for airports. Money for schools. He's a big spender all of a sudden, after eviscerating our schools and turning away billions our own federal tax dollars marked for high-speed rail and the Medicaid expansions.

I would hope no one would buy it, but Scott's millions somehow were enough for people to overlook his dodgy past the last time around.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
72. i've seen Crist respond to this, and he really nails it
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:29 PM
Mar 2014

That, Rick Scott is offering too little too late. He practically broke education in the state and now he wants to cut a check to every teacher to buy their votes. Everyone sees thru that.

He turned down high speed rail that would have put 24,000 people to work and brought the state into the 21st Century. These are not actions that will be forgotten by writing checks to airports.

He then says, Florida needs someone who truly loves this state.

It's a great message for him. Charlie Crist is not my first choice, but he's a better choice than Rick Scott, and everyone knows that he truly loves the state. That's worth a lot. Rick Scott has shown nothing but contempt for Florida and Floridians.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
74. I will take a busload of Charlie Crists if they rid us of Rick Scott.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:33 PM
Mar 2014

Yes, his views seem to bend gently in the political breeze from time to time. But he refused to help Bush by cutting early voting hours and also, he IS NOT RICK SCOTT.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
14. There but for the grace of God, go I............
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 08:21 PM
Mar 2014

I m eligible for Medicaid under federal guidelines, but it was not expanded in my state either. I can't afford the health insurance rates, keep my fingers crossed and go to a free clinic.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
17. And there's no reason for it.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 08:58 PM
Mar 2014

The ACA is supposed to expand Medicaid so no one is left out.

We need to fix this.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
25. and it's our money. FL give more in federal taxes than smaller states
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 09:31 PM
Mar 2014

but we're paying for their healthcare while our people die. it's grotesque.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
93. All of this only proves that MORE.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:46 PM
Mar 2014

The ACA *is* a good thing. But all the issues -- Republican generated and otherwise -- just point further to the need for true unversal healthcare. No one in "the richest country in the world" should have to juggle paperwork or dig for money, never mind go without healthcare.

One card in your wallet. No out-of-pocket costs to pay. Period.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
16. This should go to every voter here in FL
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 08:36 PM
Mar 2014

Every Dem in Alex Sink's district who just stayed home should hang their heads in shame, because we should be voting in every election to prevent this very travesty from happening.

RIP this lovely women and blessings on her family and friends.

The Fl legislature pays $8 per month for their health insurance but they don't believe Charlene and people like her are worthy of health insurance because they don't work hard enough, or look right, or make enough money or live in the right neighborhoods - or something.

FL House Speaker Will Weatherford married into his job so apparently he earned his $8 monthly high quality health care. Senate president Gaetz is a multi -millionaire so apparently he earned his $8 monthly health care. Guess Charlene and her kids just don't rate in Florida.

The truly frustrating thing is how many Floridians in similar dire circumstances will vote R in November

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
19. agreed, and very good points on healthcare republican reps provide for themselves at OUR expense
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 09:11 PM
Mar 2014

this is exactly the sort of story to help turn that tide in November. people HAVE to see the real faces on this issue. the lives of people aren't political footballs -- we're moms and sisters and daughters and best friends. We're FLORIDIANS -- we're supposed to care about each other.


on the Alex Sink thing -- i don't read too much into that except that it's a wake up call for the party. there's a tremendous amount of work to educate people on "down ballot" voting, and special elections and all the non-presidential year stuff. i hope that lesson gets through to those who control those things.

Alex could have won with more feet on the ground she was within that kind of striking distance given the overall low turnout. also, Jolly might not be able to hold on to that seat given the changing demographics in that district.


mcar

(42,334 posts)
26. She was within striking distance
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 09:35 PM
Mar 2014

And there were far more registered Rs in that district than Ds. Charlene is a real and tragic face on the Healthcare issue.

I hope it helps to make a difference here. GOTV 2014!

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
54. Whoever runs against the Space Alien
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:25 AM
Mar 2014

Should blast the airwaves with this story. A few years ago he wanted to CUT Medicaid. Show the faces of exactly who is getting Medicaid. A non-profit agency serving the MR/DD population ran ads on TV showing their Consumers. These are the people who Rick Scott thinks are" lazy loafs on Medicaid".

Put a FACE on these people, like this woman and her children.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
100. precisely -- i hope the right people are listening.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:46 PM
Mar 2014

i hope we're getting thru to them.

the thinking lately (inside baseball here) has been not to attack Rick Scott, but to champion issue that work for Floridians. I think we need both. The milquetoast approach has achieved nothing.

spartan61

(2,091 posts)
27. Besides getting a copy of this to
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 09:35 PM
Mar 2014

Scott and President Obama, we should make sure that Ed Schultz gets a copy too. He will certainly give it a lot of air time. This really needs to be publicized so all those jerk governors who have denied their citizens expanded Medicaid can see what their decisions have really done. This is so heartbreaking.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
30. Didn't Rick Scott want to take the Medicaid money, but the legislature stopped him?
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 09:51 PM
Mar 2014

Not that he put up much of a fight when the legislature said no.

At least Jan Brewer genuinely fought to take the Medicaid money. Rick Snyder too.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
51. it's even worse than that -- the fact that anyone REMEMBERS that he supported the expansion
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:35 AM
Mar 2014

is wrong. he supported a privatized scheme where he and his cronies would profit, THEN he did nothing to get the Speaker of the House to bring it to the floor. NOT ONE PHONE CALL.

nothing but a PR stunt.

the bill passed in the Senate. we were all waiting on the House to act. nothing. not a peep from rick scott.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
58. Yeah. Nice sleight of hand there, Rick. "Well, I TRIED
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 10:49 AM
Mar 2014

to get a Teaparty-acceptable private scheme going ..."

He didn't. Not that that would be okay in the first place.

I don't know that I have ever seen so blatantly malicious a public figure as Rick Scott. He's hurting people at every opportunity, wearing his cocky custom-made boots with our state seal on them, then going to The Villages to have hand-picked cadres of elderly conservatives and coerced children with pre-made signs congratulate him.

He's like the Michael Keaton character in Pacific Heights, locking the doors of our house while he destroys everything from within, and daring us to evict him.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
41. the FL senate unanimously passed the legislation. then,
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:23 PM
Mar 2014

for one hot minute rick scott said he'd approve a "private" scheme. but he never did anything on it. it was all show. political cover.

the House is run by tea party radicals and they wouldn't give the bill a vote, which rick scott knew they wouldn't, and plus, it wasn't the private scheme he was asking for.

so, we have $50+ billion in federal money that we can't give to dying people b/c the tea party has to show that they will no way no how work with a black president. and i'm sorry -- but that's what this on the level of the House republicans in FL. they would rather have floridians die before affirming a policy put forth by Obama. on the most base level, it's because he's black and they won't "legitimize" him. that's the way they think.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
31. Republicans are always okay with innocent people dying as long as the guilty get punished.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 09:51 PM
Mar 2014

It's the opposite of what we say we believe, that it is better for the guilty to go free than to have the innocent unjustly punished.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
49. Republicans on FB have left messages like "I have no sympathy for stupid people"
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:31 AM
Mar 2014

and, "she made her bed, now she must lie in it."

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
52. jeez,! I hope FB will remove such nastiness.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:41 AM
Mar 2014

She was WORKING! I suppose if she had quit her jobs she could have gotten coverage, but she was trying to make sure she could pay her rent.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
67. there's such nonsense that comes from repubs on healthcare -- they think
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:16 PM
Mar 2014

that if someone who is poor gets to see a doctor, that somehow that reduces the value of their own healthcare. as if, status should be assigned to the ability to see a doctor, where only the most wealthy get good healthcare. working folks can have *some* access, but not as much as the wealthy. and poor people, well, they should just die quickly.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
102. The zero-sum fallacy.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:36 PM
Mar 2014

"If you're getting more, I must be getting less."

Except it doesn't even work that way. We all pay when people suffer; we all benefit when they are freed to live their lives without the constant threat of needing astronomically expensive healthcare and either not being able to get it, or being financially ruined trying to pay for it.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
69. most were actually people on Facebook who are known in the community
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:18 PM
Mar 2014

and were not at all shy about the world seeing how callous they are -- in fact, they're PROUD of their Galtitude.

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
32. to those who say dems pols need to "motivate" my ass to get me to vote- is this enough?
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:22 PM
Mar 2014

to those who say "I want to vote for someone not against someone" is this enough to get you to the polls

to the person who said this to me "I will not vote for another Democrat just because they have the letter D in front of their name ... " is this enough

will the whining and excusing ever end geeez just shut up and vote

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
39. since this is on Rick Scott and the radical republicans in the house, i'm hoping this will stick
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:46 PM
Mar 2014

it's black and white -- no shades of grey. the republicans are refusing this money b/c they want poor working people to suffer. Charlene made just $450 too much to qualify for Medicaid without the expansion. that's insane -- that turning down $450 of work would have been the difference between life or death for a mother of three.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
35. So sorry to hear this, nb.. mahalo for
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:27 PM
Mar 2014

enlightening us and for the really nice tribute to Charlene Dill.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
37. i hope we can make a difference
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:41 PM
Mar 2014

we'll start the work in earnest tomorrow to get some press going. it's just been so horrible for everyone. just sad messages back and forth. people haven't been able to collect their thoughts yet.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
73. conservatives are so concerned about fetuses, would be nice if that concern extended to families
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:31 PM
Mar 2014

once the fetuses are born. children need mothers who don't die from lack of healthcare. you'd think that would be an American Value regardless of political stripe.

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
63. Hope some Democrat is making a commercial of this. People of Florida simply
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:25 PM
Mar 2014

don't understand what is being done by the GOP.

RIP Charlene.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
76. me too! we'll see.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:34 PM
Mar 2014

this just happens to be the tragedy that we're aware of at the moment -- i've seen stats that show we're likely having a few people die every day for lack of healthcare in the state.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
71. **UPDATE** the fundraiser is almost to the goal
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:23 PM
Mar 2014

The writer of the piece, Kathleen Voss Woolrich, started the GoFundMe to pay for the funeral. It's not going to bring her back, but it's making things a little easier on the family. We were chatting on FB while I posted this last night and she was not optimistic about being able to raise enough for the cremation and service. But today it looks like she'll get there.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
78. It's the soulless gleam in the eye.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:50 PM
Mar 2014


... reminds me so much of Mitt Romney. The sociopath with a dead kitten in his pocket, who thinks no one knows.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
89. Kids: Do NOT help this man "find his kitty."
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:17 PM
Mar 2014

... all I'm saying.

In all seriousness, I don't see Rick Scott, or any of the new breed of really horrific Republican governors betraying an ounce of empathy for the people they were hired to represent. I see an ice-cold dedication to the destruction of anything that might benefit the community as a whole, or raise quality of life or opportunity for anyone, save a presumed small circle of privileged cronies.

And Scott in particular seems to feel that the best and perhaps only use of government is to funnel money to wealthy interests, preferably his own.

Not just bad governance, but actually chilling.

These are bad people, and they are going to do bad things until we make them stop.



Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
80. K& R
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:14 PM
Mar 2014

Heartbreaking. She tried to do everything right, and Republicans STILL killed her for being working class.

My condolences to those beautiful children and to all who loved this fine, awesome mom.

RIP Charlene

Think also of the many people who have no loved one to tell their story, who die because of abject greed.

My governor, the rich golden boy Haslam, has done the same thing here. He wants the poor to remain sick, to be locked up, or alternately, they can just die of their diseases. Haslam's buddies need a lot more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

because CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS are far more important than the lives of working class Tennesseans

When does the greed STOP?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
81. Thom Hartmann just did a segment on her on his show today.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:20 PM
Mar 2014

He called Rick Scott a murder and said he should be prosecuted.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
96. He posts videos from his show in the video forum.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:32 PM
Mar 2014

Maybe he'll post that segment in the next few days, I hope.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
98. I will totally be on the lookout for those!! thank you so much for flagging this!
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:42 PM
Mar 2014

I haven't had Sirus/XM in a while, and that's one of the two things I miss (Underground Garage being the other).

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
101. Can you stream?
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:15 PM
Mar 2014

He might have some clips or articles on his website, or Free Speech TV might. I can't post links right now but you can get there with google.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
83. Time to expand the subsidies.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:39 PM
Mar 2014

I'm one of those lucky people who doesn't make enough to qualify for Medicaid. ( Nor, do I qualify for Medicaid, which is limited to people with children in my state--which didn't expand Medicaid or set up exchanges. So, odds are that I will wind up just like Ms. Dill. Lovely. I don't have $400+/mo. for the crappy "catastrophic" plans available to the people in my state, let alone something decent.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
97. here's a map of states that have expanded or are considering expanding Medicaid
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:40 PM
Mar 2014

It's (largely) the states with a history of slavery/racism that are the hold-outs. The second map below shows states where slavery was concentrated according to the 1860 census.


When I read the comment on FB, I can't help but see the veiled racism. That "people are lazy," "too stupid," and "don't deserve healthcare if they can't 'afford' it." It's all this "otherness" that reeks of racism.










The majority of America's racists live where slavery was most common a new study has revealed.
The University of Rochester has found that despite the abolition of slavery 150 years ago, white Southerners who live in the Cotton Belt where the economy was build on slaves and plantations are much more likely to express negative attitudes toward blacks than their fellow Southerners who live where there were less slaves.

Indeed, these white people are also more likely to identify as Republican and to hold opinions on race-related political policies such as affirmative action.

The study by is believed to be the first to demonstrate the lasting effects of slavery on racial attitudes in the South.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2428103/Majority-Americas-racists-live-areas-slavery-common-says-new-study.html#ixzz2x171KCdy
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GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
103. I'm in one of those states.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:37 PM
Mar 2014

It's not just racism. It's "I got mine. Screw you." Bunch of phoney Christians, who accuse people of being lazy in order to absolve themselves from actually acting like the Christians they claim to be. Wish I could get the hell out of here.

Baconeater

(15 posts)
105. New Here, Some Thoughts
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:02 AM
Mar 2014

I'm a Canadian, but I have disdain for the GOP, mainly because they want to shove religion down America's throat. I've been on a mainly anti-Obama forum site of late (even though I'm not anti-Obama) where I regularly expose their lies and call them out on their hypocrisies. I found that lots of the Obama bashing stems from articles that are blatantly false or use worst case scenarios as the basis for them. It makes me skeptical about everything I read on the internet, and that includes articles from the left and center as well.
I want to say that I believe this article. But it seems to missing some key things like if the father or fathers of the kids give any support, and what exactly did she die from. The skeptic in me made me do a google search. I found a site that is asking for donations for her funeral. Looks like the goal was met. But then I went to the funeral home, and a search of her name comes up empty. Maybe it isn't posted yet since her funeral is supposedly on Saturday.
But I did find her Facebook page. There are no messages after early March. No condolences that you usually see when someone passes. And what I really found strange is that friends were accepted a few days after she supposedly died (that could be explained by someone else having access to her computer and accepting the friends). https://www.facebook.com/charlene.campbell.376

Anyway, I still believe the story is true. But I'm not 100%. Bottom line, depending on what exactly she died from, there is a very good chance that if she lived in Canada, and not Florida, she would be alive today.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
108. Your last sentence says the truth. In Canada she would have gotten the
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 01:39 PM
Mar 2014

health care she needed to stay alive and raise her children.

Response to nashville_brook (Original post)

 

Pharaoh

(8,209 posts)
109. Republican death panels
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 08:19 PM
Jul 2014

That's what we should call them,

using their own terms against them.

It fits doesn't it?

 

Pharaoh

(8,209 posts)
110. Republican Death Panels
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 08:21 PM
Jul 2014

That's what we should call them,

using their own terms against them.

It fits doesn't it?

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