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(4,876 posts)Please?
K&R
Phlem
(6,323 posts)What a perfect day dream.
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rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)going to happen. Clintons were part of the DLC founding group. They LOVE corporate money.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)Clinton-Sachs is brilliant.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)How high does the poverty rate get before Democrats figure out that corporate bought Democrats will not save us?
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)spin
(17,493 posts)despite the fact that they have far more "experience" than she does.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)spin
(17,493 posts)included the thingy.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)spin
(17,493 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)Not to mention his age will be an issue for some just as McCains was in 08, fair or not. But I doubt he'll run. If Hillary opts out, all bets are off!
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Trying to prove she's tough on other countries and business friendly when that's not the kind of Democrat we want or need.
7962
(11,841 posts)So if she runs, thats who we'll get. But its early, you never know what will happen over 2 years
yurbud
(39,405 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)Obama was brilliant for running after 2 years in the Senate, which is exactly where Warren will be. The argument goes that his opponents had no record on him to run against. Hillary, by contrast, has loads of baggage.
But the good news is, it sounds like Robert Reich may step up and rescue the Party, yet
spin
(17,493 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)Progressive on the issues, but enough insider experience to know which buttons and levers make the machine work.
spin
(17,493 posts)any more Clintons or Bushes in the White House.
After Bush the Younger, I developed an intense dislike of Presidential dynasties.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)With the advice (or orders) of Robert Rubin and the likes of Larry Summers, he paved the way for our economic destruction under Bush.
Hillary shows no signs of being more of an economic populist.
spin
(17,493 posts)supercats
(429 posts)She could be 'the game changer' America needs. She could lead the charge to undo all the
corporatization that Reagan started some thirty years ago...We don't need yet another wall
street friend, like Hilary Clinton. Obama and Clinton are interchangeable.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)She'd make a great Prez.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Cal33
(7,018 posts)are there?
brooklynboy49
(287 posts)But if Warren or Sanders or Grayson runs, she or he has my vote. In fact, I'll vote for them many, many times using that rampant voter abuse thingy
brooklynboy49
(287 posts)In fact, I've only had two.
Barbara Jordan.
And now Elizabeth Warren.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Jordan was an amazing person, my father loved her and taught me to do the same.
brooklynboy49
(287 posts)Not many days go by that I don't think of Barbara Jordan at least once. What a president she would have made.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)She nailed it to the wall with that one.
Chisox08
(1,898 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)Then I could die happy.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I'd want a clone of 435 of her and Bernie sprinkled liberally throughout the House of Representatives.
dotymed
(5,610 posts)Autumn
(45,092 posts)rec
Scuba
(53,475 posts)allan01
(1,950 posts)love this woman
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)We certainly don't need another Wall Street ass kisser.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)Elizabeth Warren wouldn't be able to do much of anything. Let's try
to make sure that that won't happen, shall we?
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)red dog 1
(27,804 posts)"Part of my job is to make sense of all that I hear, and to retell it in a forceful way so that the decision-makers at Treasury can hear it...At least that's how I see it."
Elizabeth Warren
stage left
(2,962 posts)We need more like them.
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Not a surprise that the Obama team did almost nothing in response to massive classic financial fraud. Not only that but a lot of our money in the bailout went into $500 million dollar golden parachutes for CEOs presiding over this fraud. I think we wound up fining some firms 20 million or something like that, it's like fining most of us $20. That's it, no copious perp walks like we should have seen.
No shock because look at Obama's financial team. It was the first punch in the gut, the first clue that I and a lot of us had been hoodwinked in 2008, no change like we were promised, the same old in and out of Wall Street Rubin crowd that got us into this mess.
If people have not watched "Inside Job" I urge you to watch it, it explains this fraud and our corrupt system better than anything I've seen.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)And here we are looking a HRC POTUS bid squarely in the face, more of the same or even worse. Yet many here see fit to do nothing more than bash Republicans and those who are willing to point out the obvious captured state of our own party are framed as Republican enablers by many on DU.
How do we move forward in this context? Does the Democratic Party even ideologically represent an alternative to this? I see almost no evidence of it anymore. Warren and Grayson are close to the only exceptions, Sanders is no Dem so as awesome as he is, his existence hardly validates our party's ideology. In fact I'd argue the opposite side of that, our party is so owned by big monetary interests that Sanders doesn't really belong in it.
It's a shame, because it's a time where we really need a vital and ideologically sound Democratic Party to counter the overreach of the capitalists. Instead, we work hard to get "our people" elected and they immediately appoint the worst offenders of rigged capitalism to continue the economic slaughter. Turns out they are corporations, not people. Let's treat them as some invading alien life-form consuming the rest of us, and out them as such, it would be a start and a way to stigmatize the greed-heads.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)Too much common sense for the David Gregorys and the Fox Newses of the world...
We can use more of her, I agree.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth