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FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 09:52 AM Mar 2014

Witness: Why I didn't interfere with the liquor store beating

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/25009728/witness-why-i-didnt-interfere-with-the-liquor-store-beating

DETROIT (WJBK) -
A witness to the deadly beating inside a Detroit liquor store spoke up about why he didn't interfere. Surveillance footage captured the attack while several onlookers appeared to stand by.

Edwin Johnson says he has been friends with the victim, Carl Bell, for decades. He says he was inside the liquor store at the time of the incident and says he didn't step in because he was "not as strong" as the attackers. Johnson adds that he is 52 years old.

But Johnson also says he wasn't alone, and no one else inside the liquor store intervened either

~ snip ~


This is a sad case. You want to believe people would step in to help. But as the one gentleman pointed out - he probably just would have been another victim.

All throughout this world, human life is considered too cheap.
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Witness: Why I didn't interfere with the liquor store beating (Original Post) FrodosPet Mar 2014 OP
Is it really that pipi_k Mar 2014 #1
Start throwing shit off the shelves at these guys... lame54 Mar 2014 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #3
I can see being afraid of getting shot. But a friend seem worth it. nt Logical Mar 2014 #4
We know what we THINK we would do FrodosPet Mar 2014 #5
I agree, easy to say what you would do. nt Logical Mar 2014 #6
"We know what we THINK we would do" awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #10
People who step in to these situations often end up dead or severely injured, don't be too quick to mulsh Mar 2014 #7
I have intervened in the past. Damn near got killed doing it. riqster Mar 2014 #8
As old and out of shape as I am Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #9

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
1. Is it really that
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:20 AM
Mar 2014

human life is considered too cheap?

Or were there other reasons?

Like the fact that there were two attackers (and a third person) involved.

No word on how many other people were in the store at the time

the guy on the video is 52. Against a 36 year old or a 15 year old he probably wouldn't have fared very well. Against both, forget it.

He may have health problems that would prevent strenuous activity...like getting into a brawl.

And it's Detroit. Whole different culture than what many of us here live in on a daily basis. Like the guy at the end said, he wasn't surprised, because that's just how it is around there.


I have to admit that I have a somewhat cynical view of the world, but I really don't believe that human life is considered cheap everywhere...


Response to lame54 (Reply #2)

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
5. We know what we THINK we would do
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 12:25 PM
Mar 2014

But a situation like that, happening so quickly, it would be hard not to be frozen in confusion.

I have to reserve any harsh judgement for the poor bystanders, and hope that positivity and prosperity can somehow find its way back to the City of Detroit.

Making sure the pensioners get paid, so they can survive and upgrade their homes and shop in "The City" is only the first step.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
10. "We know what we THINK we would do"
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 01:14 PM
Mar 2014

Exactly. Unless you have been in a similar situation before, you do not know what you will really do.

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
7. People who step in to these situations often end up dead or severely injured, don't be too quick to
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 12:44 PM
Mar 2014

pass judgement. It is one thing to read second hand accounts I assure you it is very different experience when it happens right next to where you're standing.

I've found myself in similar situations and as I've grown older I've grown way less likely to do more than call the cops and try to get as far away as I can. I've got one knee that is shredded from a beating I took when I was more active and tried to stop an assault. there's nothing like personal experiences to change one's mind.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
8. I have intervened in the past. Damn near got killed doing it.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 12:45 PM
Mar 2014

Just jumping in with fists flying has consequences. I chose to do so, but understand why someone wouldn't.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
9. As old and out of shape as I am
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 12:59 PM
Mar 2014

I couldn't live with myself knowing that I didn't try to do something. Anyone who witnessed this and didn't try to intervene is a coward. And no, that's NOT bravado. Twice I've intervened IRL situations. Once when a liquor store clerk was being threatened at knifepoint and once when my neighbor was beating the shit out of his girlfriend. If I die in the process of trying to protect someone else then I'm going down fighting. Fuck it.

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