Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 07:14 PM Mar 2014

Americans hate Rand Paul’s libertarianism. They just don’t know it yet.

By KEVIN D. WILLIAMSON

Rand Paul’s admirers, and more than a few of his enemies, believe the country is having a “libertarian moment”—from Tea Partiers in Topeka to Silicon Valley techno-separatists who dream of going Galt. We’ve had these moments before, but each time they come and go without the elevation of a libertarian to high office or the advancement of libertarian ideas. There’s a reason for that, and Sen. Rand Paul is just learning why now.

The problem for libertarian politicians is that Americans hate libertarianism. They like Social Security and minimum-wage hikes, they are still somewhat wary of free trade and they resent that the world is full of conniving and frequently swarthy foreigners who are scheming to provide us with goods and services in exchange for little green pieces of paper. Four times as many Americans support pulling out of NAFTA or renegotiating it as support staying in. Paul, on the other hand, wants to make the whole world a free-trade zone: He scores 100 percent on the libertarian Cato Institute’s free-trade index. Libertarian ideas might appeal to voters on principle—in a poll last fall, 22 percent of Americans said they identify as or “lean” libertarian. But in the voting booth Americans don’t have principles; they have interests.

Nearly every election cycle, a poll comes out suggesting that many Americans, and a big chunk of swing voters, think of themselves as “fiscally conservative but socially liberal,” and therefore possibly open to libertarian candidates who want to police the deficit but not your sex life. These voters are the political equivalent of people who describe themselves as “spiritual but not religious.” It’s basically an empty formulation to avoid picking a side or a fight; it’s shallow, but it sounds good. The problem, at least for Rand Paul, is that “fiscally conservative but socially liberal” is not a long way of saying “libertarian.” Paul’s libertarianism is intended to offer a little something for everybody, on the left and right—spending cuts for the Republican base, legal relief for potheads, a presidential pat on the head for gay people. But if he gets serious about substantive reform along these lines, his libertarianism is instead going to offer something to outrage everybody.

Start with the so-called fiscal conservatives. Spend a few hours listening to second-tier talk radio or engage with some real-life American voters for a few hours, and you will discover that there is practically no market for fiscal conservatism. Ask them how they think we should go about balancing the budget, for instance, and they’ll inevitably respond: by cutting foreign aid, which American voters believe makes up about a third of the federal budget. Rand Paul’s repeated calls to end foreign aid—to Egypt, to countries where the American flag is burned, to anybody else he can think of—is a reliable applause line for the gentleman from Kentucky; giving away aid is just one more of those foreign entanglements George Washington warned us about. But what many of his admirers do not understand is that his opposition to foreign aid isn’t principally fiscal but ideological: Foreign aid’s portion of the budget is actually miniscule—closer to 1 percent. Even if we cut it all, the savings would be trivial.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/03/rand-paul-america-hates-liberterians-104858.html

12 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Americans hate Rand Paul’s libertarianism. They just don’t know it yet. (Original Post) n2doc Mar 2014 OP
Libertarianism .... MindMover Mar 2014 #1
Easy fix for Democrats. woo me with science Mar 2014 #2
Don’t forget about the flat tax.. busterbrown Mar 2014 #6
Libertarians are (with rare exceptions) unelectable. Jgarrick Mar 2014 #3
K&R Cha Mar 2014 #4
I've yet to meet one of those "socially liberal" libertarians. Certainly none in D.C. that I know of Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #5
To be fair, Washington DC is Mordor to a Libertarian. Jgarrick Mar 2014 #8
That's true. But still... Scratch a libertarian's social liberalism long enough... Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #9
Yet they all want to be there soooo badly. Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #11
They all seem to forget all that when it comes to women's vaginas. Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #10
+1. nt Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #12
There are a few things which Rand Paul practices and it is a Paul practice. Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #7

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
2. Easy fix for Democrats.
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 07:21 PM
Mar 2014

Last edited Sat Mar 22, 2014, 07:54 PM - Edit history (4)

The only reason Libertarians get attention is because they say some of the right things re: reining in warmongering, curbing the drug wars, and stopping the outrageous surveillance state. People do NOT like their willingness to scrap social programs and gut Social Security.

All Democrats have to do is re-embrace the policies they are supposed to stand for. Stop the outrageous corporate war on marijuana and marijuana users. Stop pandering to the corporate One Percent with private prisons and draconian drug policies. Be the party that not only ends the outrageous drug wars, but also reins in Wall Street, stops the spying on Americans, restores our Constitution, reduces inequality, and STRENGTHENS social safety nets.

Third Way Democrats would not have to worry about Libertarians at all if they would crawl out of their corporate Masters' pockets for long enough to own the issues they SHOULD own.

 

Jgarrick

(521 posts)
3. Libertarians are (with rare exceptions) unelectable.
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 07:26 PM
Mar 2014

Libertarian-leaning Republicans are another matter.

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
9. That's true. But still... Scratch a libertarian's social liberalism long enough...
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 08:02 PM
Mar 2014

...and what you get is a conservative, 9.9 out of 10 times.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
10. They all seem to forget all that when it comes to women's vaginas.
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 08:24 PM
Mar 2014

Libertarianism goes right out the window as they try to legislate women's bodily functions every chance they get.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
7. There are a few things which Rand Paul practices and it is a Paul practice.
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 07:54 PM
Mar 2014

He attached earmarks to bills he knows is going pass, take the money and runs home with it and because he voted no on the bill says he never votes for spending. It should be if Congress members does this they will not be able to run back to their districts with the money unless they vote yes on the spending. Paul also opens his mouth and inserts a big foot. Other issues will probably get resolved in time.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Americans hate Rand Paul’...