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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:09 PM Mar 2012

Sinead O'Connor calls for Irish people to demand action on behalf of Trayvon Martin


http://www.smileyandwest.com/treyvon...O%27Connor.pdf

I am very sad today (and am certain the whole of Ireland is) to learn of poor Treyvon's terrifying ordeal and horrified by the fact his known and named and admitted killer has not been arrested, despite the crime having taken place a month ago. This is a disgrace to the entire human race.
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Please.. ALL Americans should deplore this crime. As should ALL people of ALL nations. And deplore the fact this man has not been arrested. All Irish people should do the same. And I ask that we here in Ireland should express through our American embassy that we would like to see this man arrested this very minute. Because racism is not acceptable. Nor is vigilantism. And this was very clearly in no way at all a case of self-defense
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Sinead O'Connor calls for Irish people to demand action on behalf of Trayvon Martin (Original Post) HipChick Mar 2012 OP
Vigilantism is not acceptable, but we want the guy arrested this very minute. slackmaster Mar 2012 #1
FFS, Arrest is a facet of due process. Clearly some people believe there is enough evidence, present zinnisking Mar 2012 #6
I absolutely DO think a crime was committed slackmaster Mar 2012 #7
For whatever it is worth... FiercelyIndependant Mar 2012 #10
"no choice in the case under any circumstances"...heh... I've been arrested before. zinnisking Mar 2012 #11
What we all should be doing warm n fuzzy fascism Mar 2012 #2
W.A.F.F bongbong Mar 2012 #13
maybe the Irish can invade Canada! provis99 Mar 2012 #3
Do you have to be an american to respond to a crime movonne Mar 2012 #4
how many times have we, in the US, publicly decried systemic/systematic violence magical thyme Mar 2012 #5
One of her songs keeps coming to my mind.... Bluenorthwest Mar 2012 #8
Whoops, I dupped you. demmiblue Mar 2012 #15
i really do hope this becomes big international news JI7 Mar 2012 #9
It's all the news in the UK.. HipChick Mar 2012 #12
Black Boys On Mopeds: demmiblue Mar 2012 #14
 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
1. Vigilantism is not acceptable, but we want the guy arrested this very minute.
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:14 PM
Mar 2012
Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

zinnisking

(405 posts)
6. FFS, Arrest is a facet of due process. Clearly some people believe there is enough evidence, present
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:32 PM
Mar 2012

ly, to make an arrest.

Your ad nauseam "due process" posts are clearly about you making a statement.

Its been weeks already. Local police made up their mind weeks ago. Either you think their inaction is a travesty, or you don't.

Either you think a crime was committed, or you don't. "We" do.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
7. I absolutely DO think a crime was committed
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:42 PM
Mar 2012

George Zimmerman can still be arrested.

Local police made up their mind weeks ago. Either you think their inaction is a travesty, or you don't.

I think the Sanford PD screwed the pooch.

I stand by my statements about due process.

 
10. For whatever it is worth...
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:50 PM
Mar 2012

The police didn't make their minds up about anything,and had no choice in the case under any circumstances. The Proscuting Attorney on the other hand.....

zinnisking

(405 posts)
11. "no choice in the case under any circumstances"...heh... I've been arrested before.
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 05:58 PM
Mar 2012

More than once. In maybe one of the cases the DA was consulted beforehand.

A year and a half ago, my friend was shot dead while he was unarmed.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/117222803

The shooter was arrested on the spot. The DA wasn't consulted before the arrest was made.

Sanford police had a point of view, they had a choice, their minds were made up the night of the murder.

 
2. What we all should be doing
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:15 PM
Mar 2012

is looking at the #1 threat to people like Trayvon: young males who look just like him. A young Black male has more of a chance dying at the hands of someone who looks like him than a White person any day. And that is the real tragedy. Because if we could say that the enemy is someone who hates because of differences, how do we explain the sad truth of it all?

 

provis99

(13,062 posts)
3. maybe the Irish can invade Canada!
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:59 PM
Mar 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenian_raid
that makes about as much sense.
seriously, what the heck do the Irish have to do with Trayvon Martin?????

movonne

(9,623 posts)
4. Do you have to be an american to respond to a crime
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:05 PM
Mar 2012

that takes place in america??? after all we see and say a lot about other countries crimes...just wondering...

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
5. how many times have we, in the US, publicly decried systemic/systematic violence
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:26 PM
Mar 2012

against a particular group in other countries?

Seriously, what the heck do Americans have to do with the punishment or execution by stoning of female rape victims other countries?

The failure to hold racist murderers legally accountable is no different than the "correct" application of laws that require the stoning to death of female victims. Legal murder is legal murder, and is wrong.

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