Bill Kristol Calls For Americans to be ‘Awakened and Rallied’ to War

[Ichingcarpenter]

Bill Kristol is not shy about his fetish for war. His latest piece at the neoconservative Weekly Standard borders on self-parody in the way that it openly longs for a return to a time when Americans were eager to send the U.S. military off on unnecessary, imperialistic adventures.

Kristol is frustrated by the “war-weariness” of the nation. He laments the reluctance on the part of the Republican Party to “challenge” “the idol of war-weariness.”

“A war-weary public can be awakened and rallied,” Kristol cheers. “Indeed, events are right now doing the awakening. All that’s needed is the rallying. And the turnaround can be fast.”

People like Kristol are so blinded by ideology that they breach the etiquette which calls on elite commentators to camouflage their enthusiasm for war with superficial appeals to peace. He loves death and destruction and wars of choice and he doesn’t care who knows it! He is way out of the closet. That he can explicitly call for Americans to be “awakened and rallied” for new wars and not be embarrassed by the Hitler-esque tone of such despicable cravings is an indication of how lacking in self-awareness he is. His foreign policy beliefs are the kind that are not susceptible to reasoning or disconfirming evidence. His worship for the warfare state is religious in its persuasion.

Kristol condemns using war-weariness “as an excuse to avoid maintaining our defenses or shouldering our responsibilities.” In other words, the fact that Kristol’s preferred policies were implemented throughout the Bush administration and it led to war crimes, hundreds of thousands killed, trillions of dollars wasted, region-wide instability in the Middle East, and clear geo-political losses for the United States shouldn’t deter us from continuing to spend more than the rest of the world combined on our military or from “shouldering our responsibilities” of ruling the world through force and war.


http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/war-weariness-excuse_784895.html#

[grahamhgreen]

1. Of course he does! And many here agree with the neocon!!!

[functioning_cog]

2. You should self delete. In all the back and forth about Russia on DU

I have seen maybe one or two advocating for any military involvement in Ukraine.

Every other person has been very clear in their statements against war footing.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

10. No he shouldn't.

There has been plenty of implied support for military action.

[MNBrewer]

18. No there hasn't been

Implied OR explicit.

It's all in your mind.

[Scootaloo]

27. Well, if there's no support...

Then there's been a lot of pointless bloviating.

[MNBrewer]

31. The issue of whether the Russian Anschluß of Crimea is legitimate is the topic

NOBODY on DU is advocating war over it so far as I've seen.

[Marr]

32. Making allusions to the Nazis amounts to pro-war rhetoric, imho.

That is not the kind of imagery you push if what you want is a measured response. That's how you enable people who really do want war, and there are plenty of them.

Why use that word? Crimea isn't Germany, and that particular word is synonymous for the Nazi annexation of Austria.

[MNBrewer]

36. Which side??? To listen to some here, you would think that an SS Panzer division ran Yanukovych

out of Kiev.

Sometimes Nazi comparisons are valid. Godwin is very misunderstood.

[Marr]

38. Really? Someone referred to Panzers?

I must have missed that.

Sometimes Nazi comparisons are appropriate-- but in a situation like this, it amounts to pro-war rhetoric, imho. /nt

[MNBrewer]

39. I was being hyperbolic. The overwrought handwringing about "neo-Nazis" having taken over

in Kiev is what I was referring to.

[Raksha]

62. What's "overwrought" about that?

Neo-Nazis have taken over in Kiev, covertly supported by the U.S. government.

Sometimes, Nazi analogies are valid. And YES, I've been reading Robert Parry a lot lately.

[MNBrewer]

64. Case in point.

Overwrought. Lie. False. Non-factual. No basis in fact.

That's exactly what I'm talking about.

You think Svoboda is neo-Nazi? Try looking into Putinist Russia for a second.

Ukraine has geopolitical designs on its neighbors? LOL. Right. Dupe

[Scootaloo]

60. As mentioned by the poster below, comparisons to Nazis don't go well with claims not not wanting war

So you don't want war. Okay. What DO you want?

[MNBrewer]

61. Well, that's an opinion I guess.

Thanks for sharing.

[2banon]

35. uh.. no it's not all in his mind. eom

[MNBrewer]

37. cite one

just ONE call on DU for military intervention by the US in Crimea.

[grahamhgreen]

40. Well, what would you suggest we do if Russia takes all of the Ukraine? I mean, at what point

would you advocate military action?

When should we put troops in the area?

[Rex]

45. He/she whoever it was cannot answer you anymore.

They are now in the Great Sockpuppet Yard in the Sky.

[grahamhgreen]

47. HAHA, talk about self-deleting, lol!

[Rex]

44. Says the now PPRd and exposed Pretzel Warrior!

Last edited Tue Mar 18, 2014, 07:18 PM - Edit history (1)

Bahahahahaha!!! OH HAPPY DAY!

[hrmjustin]

48. I am glad I sent that to mirt.

[hrmjustin]

49. And pretzel warrior is gone too!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=298088

[Rex]

51. Thank you!

Nobody should have more than one account here; if they are so desperate after getting a time out on their real account...then they need to think about how obsessed they are with DU. Nothing worse than ending up like library girl imo.

You ROCK my friend!

[hrmjustin]

55. An advanced search made it clear.

I am glad the admins took care of this.

[Rex]

56. Me too, they gave him a zillion chances.

IMO.

[hrmjustin]

57. Well he will be back.

[Rex]

58. Sadly

He seems obsessed with DU so ya, you are right he will be back.

[Marr]

59. How did you figure it out, if you don't mind my asking?

I've suspected several posters around here were sock puppets, but I didn't realize there way for a user to suss it out.

[hrmjustin]

63. He was on vacation since the 9th and the sock account started posting again last week.

The account functioning_cog last posted in nov. and started up last week bigtime and the posts looked like his.

[Marr]

65. Ah, I see. You'd have a sharp eye to spot it from this side of the board then.

[hrmjustin]

66. Well I was not the first to notice. Someone mentioned it to me in a pm in passing but I looked into

it. I saw some people mention it in the socks op. IBut the advanced search did it for me. Mirt taught me a few tricks. Lol.

He will be back.

[bobduca]

52. FREE MR Roffle Waffles

<--- to be reserved for actual hilarity, not lip-curled mocking scorn of anything progressive.

[TreasonousBastard]

3. But in that mass of word salad he doesn't bother to...

say who to go to war with.

Are we to go to war with Russia over the Crimea?

[Rex]

5. Well he is appealing to his base, so that means nothing really as far as details go.

Krystol might pretend to be a knowledgeable fellow (quoting Shakespear, he must be smart), but he really is just saying this; "Republicans hate peace and love war, wake up and start loving you some war! Piss off anyone that likes peace and remind them of how shameful it is that they didn't serve in war. War war war. Tell them to go get in line behind all the Republicans signing up at their local recruiter! War is good, war is great! I eat war with cereal in the morning."

WAR WAR WAR! We will kill them all first and then sort out the who they are-bodies later! WAR WAR WAR!

[Ichingcarpenter]

8. We just need to wake up

war is good for business.

[JHB]

4. So put one on and show us how it's done, son (of Irving)...

[Jim__]

6. "He loves death and destruction and wars of choice ..."

Yea, he loves death and destruction - as long as it's not his chicken-hawk ass on the line.

[Warren DeMontague]

7. Ah. It almost sounds like he's got a new line, a new ploy, a new con, if you will...

I suppose you could even call it a "neo con".

[RandySF]

9. Which service uniform did Kristol wear?

Oh, wait, he didn't

[LuvNewcastle]

11. People like Kristol want us to forget that our government's

primary responsibility is to the citizens. People like Kristol know that as long as our attention is focused outward on other people's problems that we'll ignore our own problems. We have too many domestic issues that can't wait any longer, and the American people have finally figured out how our government manipulates us into spending money on the military and wars. The main problem that I see is the issue of inequality in this country, and I don't think the people are going to be easily distracted from it this time.

[Ichingcarpenter]

13. Exactly

Which is the point of the distraction ....now about that missing plane?

[LuvNewcastle]

14. That plane. There's only so much people can say about that.

That's one of the most boring distractions they've ever come up with. The plane is gone and they don't know where it is. That's the bottom line, and there's nothing anyone can learn about it until they find it, which might not happen. I'm sorry for the people who lost loved ones on that flight, but I can't work myself up to care about it otherwise. Until they find some hard evidence of where it crashed (or landed), I don't want to hear anything about it.

[brooklynboy49]

20. I agree with you in principal and spirit

Unfortunately, I (sadly) believe you give the American people too much credit for having "finally figured out" how they're manipulated and are not "going to be easily distracted" this time. Besides, even if they did wake up and smell the coffee, the right would pound away at the "S" word and see to it that nothing remotely resembling equality, financial, social or otherwise, take root in this country during our lifetime. That day will come, but IMO it's a long, long ways off.

[LuvNewcastle]

21. You might be right, but the people I talk to seem to be waking up.

But I don't waste time talking to fools in my daily life, and there are a lot of them out there, especially where I live. The people that get it aren't really politically active; in fact, a lot of them don't even vote. I do encourage people to vote, but many of them make a good case for not voting, and I don't really push it. People are angry and sick of the way our society is, but they don't know what to do about it. All I can think of is to organize as much as possible and stay in touch with like-minded people. The only way to ever change our situation is for us to stick together.

[Skittles]

12. maybe he could start by telling us his combat experience

[Rex]

53. HA!!!

[JHB]

15. Be quiet, Billy, adults are speaking.

You haven't put your ass on the line. You haven't even put your money where your mouth is (what tax hikes are you proposing to pay for this?).

It's always easy to talk big when your words have no consequences -- at least none for yourself.

[BeyondGeography]

16. Let that pampered putz put on the uniform first

Make his life more than a theoretical exercise for once.

[HangOnKids]

19. Post Of The Day!!!

[sendero]

17. Guess what neocon maggots..

.. by dragging us into wars of choice you have decimated our military and raised the threshold at which we will engage in another war very high.

Of course, in almost no circumstance would it be wise for the US to go up against Russia over Crimea. But thanks to you it is very unlikely to ever happen no matter what.

[cantbeserious]

22. Bill Kristol Is A War Monger

eom

[onethatcares]

23. fuck him

let him sign up to be the first in.

[malaise]

24. Now you know why ReTHUGs were so upset

with the wounded vet at the SOU - these neo-cons get hard ons for war, but they don't want to see what happens to American victims of their adventures. Hell they don't even want to provide them with benefits.

[B Calm]

25. Is Bill Kristol a veteran?

[bobthedrummer]

46. K&R + Cheney Watch link

http://www.cheneywatch.org

[NewJeffCT]

26. How about Bill Kristol being on the front line?

for this war?

[MannyGoldstein]

28. Manny Goldstein calls for Bill Kristol to be *sent* to war

Give the man a pistol and a helmet, parachute him down into some hellhole.

[Trust Buster]

29. You're all wrong

Kristol's primary allegiance is to Israel first and foremost. To neocons like him, all roads lead to Iran. His only interest in Russia is due to their support of Iran. Kristol wants us to continue to fight proxy wars for Israel. Period.

[lumpy]

50. Well then he should be over in Israel playing footsie with the Palestinians.

[Raksha]

67. I don't recall that Bill Kristol has served in the Israeli army either,

assuming they'd have him.

Disclaimer: This is not a plug for Israeli aggression/colonialism, nor for their hard-on for war with Iran. Also, plenty of IDF vets share my views--remember that military service is mandatory in Israel so everyone has to serve, regardless of political opinion.

[Berlum]

30. "My proposal includes 'special' AWOL deferments for us RepubliWankers. Smirk." - Billy K. (R)

Typical Republicon Chickenhawk - happy to stay home and send our sons and daughters off to fight and die for Republicon War Profiteers, Inc.

[winter is coming]

33. If Americans "waken", they won't be rallying to a war of *your* choosing, Bill. n/t

[2banon]

34. Bravo! I wish I could rec this excellent piece Iching, 1000+ Well Said!

[Liberal Veteran]

41. I suppose we could just drop him into the nearest trouble zone....

...but I rather think it would be kinder to use nukes than inflict his big mouth on anyone.

[Initech]

42. This is exactly why a Rand Paul administration scares the living shit out of me!

If he's elected he will listen to war fetishists like Kristol and we will return to being the warmongers that we're perceived as. I guarantee it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. I can se my watch by Neocon calls for war

[Jefferson23]

54. Shameful that this hateful man is still hawking for war..twisted.

“A war-weary public can be awakened and rallied,” Kristol cheers. “Indeed, events are right now doing the awakening. All that’s needed is the rallying. And the turnaround can be fast.”

Dangerous minds..that is Kristol.

[XRubicon]

68. How old is that POS?

We should draft one man, him. I wonder if his tune would change.